Windows Realistically, can police retrieve data from RAM?

LOL best statement of the day

 

Yes my spelling is poor on some words, yes i am mildly dyslexic, no i am not 14/15 but 32 and when i report write i usually use word to spell check, in forum posts i do not bother for which i will make no apology, shouldn't have to accept one because i would have thought the community here was more friendly and would not pull apart others posts on spelling.

No i do not insinuate anything about doing this for the police and having a degree, i work for the police as a civy and i am a volunteer special constable meaning on my days off i dedicate my free time to patrolling the community so i am aware of what happens in these case's as i have been involved in quite a few and we have a bunch of IT guru's who are civvies in something called a "hi tech crime unit" (some forces have a different name for it) with usually forensic science related degrees who examine hard drive's for officer's therefore i have first hand knowledge.

As for "misinformed", the correct phrase is "not aware" that people can be convicted for not giving up keys/passwords for encrypted files, but then i would not put much weight on the site it's a bit like reading the sun/daily mail thought the powers it seems from those articles pretains to only terror related offences and not others.

 

Yeah they do have more than a few of their own irrationalities, in a similar vein as The Sun/Daily Mail. For instance they can't stand Kevin Warwick for example

At least in this case, I think the numbers are valid, as they come from the chief intelligence commissioner's annual report.

http://www.official-documents.gov.uk/document/hc1011/hc01/0168/0168.pdf
Page 11, section 4.10

A bloke they suspected of kiddie porn wouldn't give up his keys, so they sent him down for two years, although that's not in the report, that's a bit of google-age.

Two years for normal offences, five years for national security offences.

Not that much of this matters to DragunovHUN as he's not in the UK and thus not subject to RIPA

 

Ahh lets hope he is not in a country where they can subject him to thumb screws then


Actually on the OPs orginal question when police seize computer's it means taking them way/unplugging them unless its not safe to do so, so going on the other posts which states your RAM is clean when the power is turned off should answer your question assuming they take it away/unplug it

 

Had to be done. Shoot or 'splode? (and if you get that reference, major kudos to you!)

 

If whatever you are doing to alert the authorities involves banging away at servers/domains looking for ways to inject malicious scripts then you get what you deserve! Thumb-screws, baseball bats, Chris De Burgh turned up to '11' - all reasonable deterrants ;-)

 

LOL... DragunovHUN what are you into?

26 answers and you havent report back

About the RAM.. it cant be done in a Real Life Scenario... As capnPedro already mentioned, some guys made it but under LAb control and cooling the chips so data takes longer to be erased.

RAM memory its based on NAND's and NOR gates wich needs current flowing throw the circuit to keep the data stored. Once current stops flowing throw it, data is lost... forever

It's a matter of physics

 

i am sure the access to encrypted data is possible, with backdoor passes.

wasnt there something about backdoor entry requirements in encryption software, for reasons of national security?

 

My guess is the coppers already nabbed him and he's now being held in a dark cell somewhere in Europe...

BTW... Your screen name caught my eye and I was going to ask you if you were from Medellin, but then I saw your Location and there you are...
I was born and grew up there... now living in the US, may I ask where in Medellin you're from? How old? What school you went to? Maybe we know people in common down there...

 

his last post, just before he pulled the side panel off and emptied a bottle of orange juice into his machine.

must have then unloaded a few magazines from his AK into the HDD drives, and hoped for the best before armed police took him down.

 

one simple fact no matter how good your security if you have illegal data on your pc it will be found law enforcement agencies have employees with the skill to get into your data,im no expert in these matters just using simple common sense which incidently i dont use much as im irish lol

 

Dude check my sig, it's some really good RAM. HDDs are cheap.

Just what would make you think that?

They'll need an army to take me!

Look under his avatar, you're right on the money.

 

just because the platters are crispy and in 5 pieces doesn't mean experts can't find fragments of data...

normally people only hide things from police when they have something they don't want to be found... as opposed to just hiding it because they can. The harder you make it, the more effort they'll put into cracking it - and at the end of the day if they cant crack it they'll arrest you anyway. just don't keep illegal files on your computer... if they were necessary they would be legal

oh and for people encrypting porn: i'm pretty sure it's legal in the UK as long as its adult and for 'personal use'... unless you (worryingly) have some need for this.

 

My mum lives next to a special cuntstuble, she drives around in a squad car to do her shopping & collect her brats from school- dobbed her into the regional police HQ as specials arent allowed to drive the patrol cars ordinarily, nor are they allowed to harass their neighbours because they think they're something special. I digress though....

'Tis true, if you dont do anything naughty with you're PC then theres no need to worry about encrypting files, unless you work for some big multi-national firm and have secret designs you need to keep safe from the threat of industrial espionage.

 

Take all your storage and ram thermite the hell out of it, oh and if for arguments sake you did have to do this, i would recommend having another HDD or two in your desk with a clean copy of windows and some non-incriminating safe word and excel files such as finances.xls and work rota.docx etc etc so if the rozzers do come to seize your PC you actually have a PC not just a box with some useless components in it :L

 

LOL they would get suspicious as soon as they didn't find any pron.

 

edit: and a few good old pron files dotted about :L

 

lol... like porn makes it anymore safe. "Ahhh this man watches porn, clearly he wouldn't do anything evil" such a fantastic concept.

Reminds me of the Simpsons Episode

Jury: "Doesn't your chest tattoo say 'Die, Bart Die!'?"
Sideshow Bob: "No of course not, its German, it means 'The, Bart The!'"
Jury: "Ohh, Nobody who speaks German could be evil..."

--------

Anyway can you not just have a big EM generator next to your pc and if the 'Rozzers' as you've all made me say at work earlier (gits) then just flick and switch and watch everything go "POOM!" then they surely can't get a thing back?

 

That'll be "take off and nuke the entire site from orbit"