Electronics Need help desigining yet another circuit.

Discussion in 'Modding' started by DETN8R, 15 Dec 2002.

  1. DETN8R

    DETN8R What's a Dremel?

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    Ok, Heres what I want to do.

    I want to have an LED light everytime it gets a pulse to the circuit.

    I want 1 blue led to light when its pulsed and 2 white leds to light when its pulsed but I want it to alternate between the two colors when its pulsed.

    If that seems confusing Ill try to explain it better.
     
  2. cpemma

    cpemma Ecky thump

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    I'm sure there are dozens of ways, but first thought was a 4017, resetting after the second output. The whites should be in series.
     
  3. acrimonious

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    what do you mean 'pulsed'? if you mean sending a single electrical signal (like pressing a button) then a simple relay would do.
     
  4. musirPmeaT

    musirPmeaT What's a Dremel?

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    Something like this?

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    (or from http://www.candysporks.org/~cburnett/forums/alternator/)

    Basically the PULSE line is the source of your pulse. First pulse turns on T1 and subsequently D1 (blue LED). Second pulse turns on T2 and subsequently D2 and D3 (white LEDs). Where R1, R2, and R3 are appropriately sized for each LED.

    So with each pulse you get: blue -> white -> blue -> white -> etc.
     
  5. ZapWizard

    ZapWizard Enter the Mod Matrix

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  6. cpemma

    cpemma Ecky thump

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    Hang about, Zap, your circuit lights colour A on high input (pulse), colour B on low input (no pulse). I thought we were after:

    ON - OFF - ON - OFF - ON...
    bloo-off-whites-off-bloo...

    4017 rules OK :clap: :clap: :clap:

    (come on, DETN8R, I've only got a Ph.D in reading my wife's mind) ;)
     
  7. DETN8R

    DETN8R What's a Dremel?

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    I think thats what I need. Thanks.
     
  8. DETN8R

    DETN8R What's a Dremel?

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    But can this circuit handle being pulsed very Fastly?
     
  9. musirPmeaT

    musirPmeaT What's a Dremel?

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    Define fast.
     
  10. DETN8R

    DETN8R What's a Dremel?

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    Ok, I plan on modding this circuit into a mouse, more specifically the Nostromo N30. I won this as a door prize at a lan and I dont really like the vibrations from the motor inside and I hooked up an LED to the motors plug and the led would flash rather than have the mouse vibrate i wanted to have a few LEDs flash.

    I plan on removing the motor inside and maybe even enlongating the mouse somehow.
     
  11. musirPmeaT

    musirPmeaT What's a Dremel?

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    Well to define *exactly* how fast it can go is not clear-cut. So make a guess as to what you think it will be. 100 times a second? 1000? 1 million? More than a 100 and you won't be able to notice that they are flashing, but will be on and somwhat dim. The circuit should be able to handle minimally several 1000 times a second.

    Note: The vibration frequency does not equal the frequency applied to the motor since 99% of vibrators have an imblanced weight at the end of the motor to merely shake.

    You really didn't answer my question and I know nothing of the N30....
     
  12. DETN8R

    DETN8R What's a Dremel?

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    is there possibly another circuit or chip I could build to make the faster pulses lest fast?
     
  13. musirPmeaT

    musirPmeaT What's a Dremel?

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    You want something that will make the faster pulses less fast? As in like you want to make two pulses become one pulse? In order to answer you question, you *must* answer these questions:

    How fast does <insert source here> flash?
    How fast do you want your LEDs to flash?
     
  14. DETN8R

    DETN8R What's a Dremel?

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    Thats the thing That I dont know. The Motor inside can shake extremely fast and when I have and LED in ther while the motor is on and shaking fast the LED appears to be lit but at times when the vibrations are less fast I can clearly see the LED flash.


    as for the Second question, I would just like them to flash fastly but noticeably.
     
  15. musirPmeaT

    musirPmeaT What's a Dremel?

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    You can use the 4017 and use the /10 output to get a 1:10 reduction. You could use a binary counter to get 1:2, 1:4, 1:8, or 1:16 reduction. In conjunction iwth the 4017, you can get just about any reduction.
     
  16. DETN8R

    DETN8R What's a Dremel?

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    Can I possibly substitute the 74LS74N with a 74LS175?

    I seem to have an abundance of these.
     
  17. musirPmeaT

    musirPmeaT What's a Dremel?

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    The only difference is the quantity of flip flops and the lack of a preset pin, but neither of these differences matter.
     
  18. Smilodon

    Smilodon The Antagonist

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    i'm not quite sure what you talk about, but normally the motors rhat makes vibration has constant power.. it's the off-centered weight on the motor that makes the vibrations, not pulses to the motor...
     
  19. DETN8R

    DETN8R What's a Dremel?

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    no, there pulses.

    Ive tested it.
     
  20. Astrum

    Astrum Dare to dream.

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    It should be pulsed. It's the sudden acceleration of the lopsided vibrator that causes the vibration. The vibrator spinning constantly would create little vibration.
     

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