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Old 9th Jan 2013, 00:34   #18
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The first of these chips to launch will be the AMD A10-6800K, and while firm figures are not yet available preliminary figures point to the chip boasting a quad-core design based on a 28nm process with. . .
"Richland" is 32nm. The follow-on "Kaveri" will be 28nm.

Proof 1 - See in the following image from the presentation, "Richland" is shown as being 32nm, the same as "Trinity".
Proof 2 - AMD says that "Richland" is "currently shipping to OEMs", which means that it has been in production for quite a few months for the wafer to be started and baked, the die packaged, and the finished APU sent to OEMs. It isn't being made at TSMC and GloFo 28nm isn't ready for production. Therefore, logically, it is 32nm.

If "Richland" is A10-6800K, then it is 32nm. If it isn't, then A10-6800K isn't "Richland".
Everyone saying 28nm has been referencing Fudzilla. He seems to be wrong.

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Hmm... The A10-6800k is still on the 28nm process and still a t the 100W TDP. Seems like intel will be ahead of AMD for quiet a while to come.
The current generation of APUs (Trinity) is produced using a 32 nm process, so Richland will be quite an upgrade, considering they will retain the 100W TDP after shrinking to 28nm. The CPU cores will use less power and/or will probably run at a higher frequency, and the GPU is GCN-based, as opposed to VLIW4 in Trinity.
If "Richland" is 32nm (see above) and shipping now, it means Piledriver cores and VLIW4 graphics. It is just Piledriver with enhancements.
No Steamroller and no GCN. More Fudzilla-branded FUD.
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Last edited by Gareth Halfacree; 9th Jan 2013 at 01:17. Reason: Merged double-post.
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