News Sony to lose $100 on every PS3

[The_Pope]

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2005/06/29/sony_ps3_loss/

Would you pay $399 for a Playstation 3 if Xbox 360 was already available for $299? Or do you think both prices are too high - what price do you think is right for these new consoles?

[Da Dego]

"Our ideal [for the PS3] is for consumers to think to themselves, 'OK, I'll work more hours and buy it.' We want people to feel that they want it, no matter what."

OK, someone REALLY needs to put a muzzle on Sony's PR writers. First they talk about exploiting the British market, now they talk about wanting people to bankrupt themselves for their products. I couldn't make this stuff up if I tried!

Sony, help us all out, here. Release your product, put whatever price tag on it, shut the **** up, and fire your PR guys. Because you are NOT doing yourselves any favors. This is the equivalent of saying, "Customer service?! We did you a service by letting you buy our products!"

[drunk]

I think Sony and Microsoft would be better off just selling some type of drive/PCI unit. They could mandate the minimum requirements easily enough - who would want to play PS3 games on a shitty computer?

Just think of the possiblities:
The cost for the new product could easily be cheaper.
You could install it in a computer or a HTPC.
(More for Sony here) it could push the want for BluRay.
(More for M$) it could easily be installed with Win XP.
They could also sell kits that made their computers work with it.

Problems? Well, most computers don't have access to a Cell, but I'm no engineer. It might be easier to integrate than we know. They could even test it out by starting off with a PS1 or PS2.

Drunk!

[The_Pope]

Trouble is, that's the president of Sony Computer Entertainment talking... maybe some subtlty was lost in the translation from Japanese... I guess he's trying to say "We will make PS3 so damn l33t that people will want it, and buy it, even if Xbox360 is cheaper."

That will be true of *some* people, but not everyone. And with quality exclusives on both sides, buying both won't come cheap. I'm not swayed by backwards compatibility, not that I've ever owned a Playstation of any generation, and I'm expecting I will stay with Microsoft: PGR3 will be worth the price alone.

[Da Dego]

Originally Posted by The_Pope

Trouble is, that's the president of Sony Computer Entertainment talking... maybe some subtlty was lost in the translation from Japanese... I guess he's trying to say "We will make PS3 so damn l33t that people will want it, and buy it, even if Xbox360 is cheaper."

That will be true of *some* people, but not everyone. And with quality exclusives on both sides, buying both won't come cheap. I'm not swayed by backwards compatibility, not that I've ever owned a Playstation of any generation, and I'm expecting I will stay with Microsoft: PGR3 will be worth the price alone.

You think the President doesn't have his speeches written for him by some schmuck in PR? I *really* hope that a lot was lost in translation. Because after the "exploiting British market" genious, this was not a brilliant follow-up.

[The_Pope]

Have you got a link to the original text? I don't think I ever saw it...

[Da Dego]

Originally Posted by The_Pope

Have you got a link to the original text? I don't think I ever saw it...

For which?

[The_Pope]

The "exploiting British market" genius

[Da Dego]

Oh, the quote originally taken was from your own site, but I'm looking for where they pulled it from. In regard to the PSP.

[Piratetaco]

Originally Posted by The_Pope

Trouble is, that's the president of Sony Computer Entertainment talking... maybe some subtlty was lost in the translation from Japanese... I guess he's trying to say "We will make PS3 so damn l33t that people will want it, and buy it, even if Xbox360 is cheaper."

That will be true of *some* people, but not everyone. And with quality exclusives on both sides, buying both won't come cheap. I'm not swayed by backwards compatibility, not that I've ever owned a Playstation of any generation, and I'm expecting I will stay with Microsoft: PGR3 will be worth the price alone.

i'll probably buy a PS3 since GT5 and co will come out for that

[Cheap Mod Wannabe]

Considering what hardware makes up both consoles the price that customers have to pay is quite small. However all that hardware would be for the most part used for gaming. Which makes $299, $399 quite a large amount of money especially when game prices are added. I think that ps3 has a big chanse of making a big profit since the people who will buy their console will buy a lot of games. No money respecting individual would spend $399 on a console just to play one game, most likely the amount of money that people spent so much money on a console will drive them to use the console more by buying more games. That's what I think. Also this will be quite interesting since many games will likely be ported from consoles to PCs by probably lowering the details...

[Da Dego]

Originally Posted by Cheap Mod Wannabe

Also this will be quite interesting since many games will likely be ported from consoles to PCs by probably lowering the details...

The exact reverse of a year ago.

[Kipman725]

I know how we can annoy sony

lets all buy ps3's install linux and use them as super fast media delivery devices... then they sell lots of units but loose huge amounts of money. Although in the uk it will be priced $100 more expensive making it break even...

[Da Dego]

Originally Posted by Kipman725

I know how we can annoy sony

lets all buy ps3's install linux and use them as super fast media delivery devices... then they sell lots of units but loose huge amounts of money. Although in the uk it will be priced $100 more expensive making it break even...

Hahahahaha.. Let's throw some type of bit-torrent like P2P file server on them! The RIAA will be trashing our computer HDs looking for the media files, and they'll be hanging on the PS3!!! That would be excellent! **** sony, **** the RIAA, and **** da po-lice!

[Fusen]

inkjet manufactuers loose money on every sale too then make it up by selling overpriced ink cartridges, it's been the case for alot of companies with diff products

Originally Posted by Da Dego

*** Sony **** the RIAA, and **** da po-lice!

Now yo kno my kinda thinkin!!

I hope Sony lower the PS3 price and they lose loads of money after the:
"we're gonna screw the brits so we sell more PSP consoles"

[Bindibadgi]

Originally Posted by The_Pope

I'm not swayed by backwards compatibility, not that I've ever owned a Playstation of any generation, and I'm expecting I will stay with Microsoft: PGR3 will be worth the price alone.

Amen to that, brutha'.

If it was £500 at launch, people would still buy it. Such are the suckers that are, the British public.

[Boon]

The impression I get is that from seeing techinical demos of the Xbox 360 Sony believes that the PS3 is so advance of the XBox 360 in performance that a premium can be charged because it will stand out as a premium product. If there is a significant difference in the visual quality of the games between a PS3 and Xbox then undecideds would be willing to pay more; $100 more is not unbelivable.. Ofcourse there are hardcore supports of either company that are looking forward to specific sequals but it's clear going but current gen sales that there are going to be more Sony only buyers waiting for the PS3.

Even now the Xbox is £94.99 and the PS2 £109.99 (according to gameplay) bearing in mind the PS2 has been out longer and, arguably, the Xbox is technically superior. Okay, not the best example but simply you can charge a premium and have better sales. Small amount this time but in previous years the PS2 has always maintained a premium price.

[MaplinMan]

i think this is bollox and no company are going to be losing sod all on anything

anybody ever heard of 'hype'? its usually the bullshit that comes out before something is released... and anybody that falls for this crap is a moro- OMFG!!!!!!! i just read the post!!! im going to be SAVING 100 pounds if i buy a ps3!!!!!!!!!£333

omgomg hello 118 118 put me through to the electronics boutique emergancy ps3 preorder hotline please!!!

[Firehed]

I won't be buying either, but my brother says he wants all three. dunno why, seeing how often the gamecube and ps2 get used. I'm rather irritated at sony and ms right now, and never liked nintendo much, but if I were to get one it would probably be the ps3

Realistically, I think 95% of people won't even know the tech specs, let alone care. It's mostly brand loyalty, with backwards compatiblity being a decent third with games coming in second, I'd think.

wonder how long it'll take for these to get cracked too... da dego threw out a pretty interesting (and evil!) idea. and for those that would do it, the hardware for the price is amazing assuming the specs ARE accurate.