Man arrested after 'Virtual Mugging' spree - bit-tech.net Forums

GreatOldOne · 18th Aug 2005, 13:26

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2005/08...r_Bot_Mugging/

GoTaLL · 18th Aug 2005, 13:37

lol.. what can you say.. they die of playing to much and they get arrested cause they virtually steals ear rings? .. imagine 10 years from now if it keeps up .. "mom i can you drive me to work? i lost my license wile playing need for speed".

The_Pope · 18th Aug 2005, 13:47

Release the (digital) hounds! :P

Asphix · 18th Aug 2005, 14:15

Lineage II was great but because of the compeditiveness that breeded things such as this, I quit. The people who are being virtually mugged most probably used a bot to sit there and grind away to gain the currency to purchase those items.. so their argument is blunted a bit.

I play games to have fun, and in a PvP compeditive game its hard to play games, have fun and compete with people who use bots to run their characters 24-7. Ebaying and what not was rampant in that game. Once ebaying is taken care of, a lot of these virtual problems will be solved. I have yet to see a developer come up with a solution to solve the problem.

Almightyrastus · 18th Aug 2005, 14:19

the farming of credits or camping of spawns for the loot to then sell on for real cash is a problem in a lot of MMORPGs now. There are companies that are set up purely for this sort of work. All too often it ruins whatever in game economy there is as people can buy millions of credits or whatever for a relatively small amount of real cash.

This is not something I am a fan of happening, I am one of those old fashioed types who likes to earn thier in game cash, in fact it took me a fair while to get my first million in Star Wars Galaxies but it felt so much better for the time taken

Asphix · 18th Aug 2005, 15:16

i agree whole heartedly. I saw an article online somewhere a while back that talked about how this is evolving as a business. I guess the sweat shops over in china, they pay people like 50-75 bucks a week (or maybe it was month) to work, and they pull in like 1,000 a day off of sales. These numbers are straight from a very vague memory, but it was some insane amount of profit like that.

mattthegamer463 · 18th Aug 2005, 15:21

the reason people do this though is because they either realy want that item, or want money. if game stuff wasnt worth anything, or theyre was a strict banning on selling stuff on ebay and auction places, this problem wouldnt happen. like that guy who murdered that other guy for selling his sword in a game. if stuff wasnt sellable in the real world, people wouldnt kill each other for it.

glaeken · 19th Aug 2005, 04:36

i cant believe this is freakin illegal. so some1 lost their level 9 cumquat or their level 15 motorized dildo. Who f'n cares. Stop waistin ur life by sitting at ur computers 24/7. I think this guy is kinda smart lol. F'n ridiculous.

crichards · 19th Aug 2005, 10:16

Ha!

Happily playing World of Warcraft and then, suddenly, look out! It's an Agent!

"Mr. Anderson! I've come to rob you of your Thor Hammer"

"My name! Is w@rg0d5tu55y!"

FIBRE+ · 19th Aug 2005, 14:02

LOL!

How the hell did the Police not just laugh in the victims faces and tell em to F.O cos your wasting our time.

Its a bit harsh on the players but tbh I think this makes the game more interesting (well if the guy was mugging them whilst playing and not a bot), its a game its an escape from reality, are we all mass murders then? I must have killed thousands of people in the time ive been playing games, loadsa terrorist tho so it aint all bad

Master Ninja · 19th Aug 2005, 14:26

Another vote for the "I can't believe the police took this seriously" team. Aren't any in-game items technically the property of the company that makes and hosts the games? As such, did he report a guy for stealing items that were never technically his?

If someone came to me and asked me to arrest someone for attacking their character online and stealing stuff, in a game where they know playing it involves a risk of being attacked and robbed, I'd laugh them right out of the station. The fact that it was a bot makes it even worse.

"Sir, a computer-controlled character in an online video game attacked my character and stole my virtual goods! Arrest the person who scripted that character!"
".... What?"

TMM · 19th Aug 2005, 14:31

"do you bought some items of eBay"

teh broked english?!

FIBRE+ · 19th Aug 2005, 17:07

Why was the bot not arested, the guy was merely an acomplice. Or maybe he didnt know they were stolen!!!!!

I wonder when the first computer centenced to a stoning will be?

silentriver · 19th Aug 2005, 18:53

thats quite funny and slightly disturbing

19th Aug 2005, 21:43

ahh.. some of the comments in this threads just made me laugh!

Kipman725 · 21st Aug 2005, 19:49

does EvE have these problems I want to have a go at it.

18th Aug 2005, 13:26	#1
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18th Aug 2005, 15:21	#7
mattthegamer463 Mod Master Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,805	the reason people do this though is because they either realy want that item, or want money. if game stuff wasnt worth anything, or theyre was a strict banning on selling stuff on ebay and auction places, this problem wouldnt happen. like that guy who murdered that other guy for selling his sword in a game. if stuff wasnt sellable in the real world, people wouldnt kill each other for it. __________________ Latest Work: Boombox Build Project PCB- Complete Digital Picture Frame 2.0- Complete RumbleMouse - Complete Latest Project: TestPC- Complete Lian-Li PC7: C2D E6600, XFX 8800GTS 640MB, Corsair 2GB PC6400, 320GB Seagate Barracuda, EVGA 680i SLi, OCZ 850W

19th Aug 2005, 04:36	#8
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19th Aug 2005, 14:02	#10
FIBRE+ Ultramodder Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Oxford Posts: 1,306	LOL! How the hell did the Police not just laugh in the victims faces and tell em to F.O cos your wasting our time. Its a bit harsh on the players but tbh I think this makes the game more interesting (well if the guy was mugging them whilst playing and not a bot), its a game its an escape from reality, are we all mass murders then? I must have killed thousands of people in the time ive been playing games, loadsa terrorist tho so it aint all bad __________________ ++ASUS SLI Premium \| X2 3800 @ 2.6ghz \| XP-120 \| 2GB Mushkin \| 8800 GT \| XFI Music \| Seagate 320GB \ Samsung F1 1TB \| 520W Corsair HX \| 23" Dell S2309W ++ ++Zotac 9300 Mini ITX \| Intel E5200 \| Scythe Shuriken \| 2GB Corsair \| 8600 GTS (Passive) \| WD Black 2.5" 320GB \ Samsung F2 Eco 1TB \| Corsair VX 450W \| 42" Panasonic Viera++ ++Canon 400D \| Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8-4.5 \| Canon 75-300mm f/4.0-5.6 \| Sandisk Extreme III 4GB++My Ebay++

18th Aug 2005, 13:37	#2
GoTaLL Supermodder Join Date: May 2005 Location: sweden Posts: 319	lol.. what can you say.. they die of playing to much and they get arrested cause they virtually steals ear rings? .. imagine 10 years from now if it keeps up .. "mom i can you drive me to work? i lost my license wile playing need for speed".

18th Aug 2005, 13:47	#3
The_Pope Geoff Richards Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: UK Posts: 2,089	Release the (digital) hounds! :P

18th Aug 2005, 14:15	#4
Asphix Multimodder Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 192	Lineage II was great but because of the compeditiveness that breeded things such as this, I quit. The people who are being virtually mugged most probably used a bot to sit there and grind away to gain the currency to purchase those items.. so their argument is blunted a bit. I play games to have fun, and in a PvP compeditive game its hard to play games, have fun and compete with people who use bots to run their characters 24-7. Ebaying and what not was rampant in that game. Once ebaying is taken care of, a lot of these virtual problems will be solved. I have yet to see a developer come up with a solution to solve the problem.

18th Aug 2005, 15:16	#6
Asphix Multimodder Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 192	i agree whole heartedly. I saw an article online somewhere a while back that talked about how this is evolving as a business. I guess the sweat shops over in china, they pay people like 50-75 bucks a week (or maybe it was month) to work, and they pull in like 1,000 a day off of sales. These numbers are straight from a very vague memory, but it was some insane amount of profit like that.

19th Aug 2005, 10:16	#9
crichards What's a Dremel? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: UK Posts: 10	Ha! Happily playing World of Warcraft and then, suddenly, look out! It's an Agent! "Mr. Anderson! I've come to rob you of your Thor Hammer" "My name! Is w@rg0d5tu55y!"

19th Aug 2005, 14:26	#11
Master Ninja Multimodder Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 182	Another vote for the "I can't believe the police took this seriously" team. Aren't any in-game items technically the property of the company that makes and hosts the games? As such, did he report a guy for stealing items that were never technically his? If someone came to me and asked me to arrest someone for attacking their character online and stealing stuff, in a game where they know playing it involves a risk of being attacked and robbed, I'd laugh them right out of the station. The fact that it was a bot makes it even worse. "Sir, a computer-controlled character in an online video game attacked my character and stole my virtual goods! Arrest the person who scripted that character!" ".... What?"

19th Aug 2005, 14:31	#12
TMM Modder Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 3,228	"do you bought some items of eBay" teh broked english?! __________________ no, your face.

19th Aug 2005, 17:07	#13
FIBRE+ Ultramodder Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Oxford Posts: 1,306	Why was the bot not arested, the guy was merely an acomplice. Or maybe he didnt know they were stolen!!!!! I wonder when the first computer centenced to a stoning will be? __________________ ++ASUS SLI Premium \| X2 3800 @ 2.6ghz \| XP-120 \| 2GB Mushkin \| 8800 GT \| XFI Music \| Seagate 320GB \ Samsung F1 1TB \| 520W Corsair HX \| 23" Dell S2309W ++ ++Zotac 9300 Mini ITX \| Intel E5200 \| Scythe Shuriken \| 2GB Corsair \| 8600 GTS (Passive) \| WD Black 2.5" 320GB \ Samsung F2 Eco 1TB \| Corsair VX 450W \| 42" Panasonic Viera++ ++Canon 400D \| Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8-4.5 \| Canon 75-300mm f/4.0-5.6 \| Sandisk Extreme III 4GB++My Ebay++

19th Aug 2005, 18:53	#14
silentriver Multimodder Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: scotland Posts: 108	thats quite funny and slightly disturbing

19th Aug 2005, 21:43	#15
charl3s_fatal1ty Guest Posts: n/a	ahh.. some of the comments in this threads just made me laugh!

21st Aug 2005, 19:49	#16
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