News Intel introduces new desktop processors

[WilHarris]

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2005/08...essors_conroe/

[Lowsidex2]

The bottom line? Next year, Intel should have a kick ass chip that should be fantastic for gaming, whilst keeping power and heat to a minimum.

About damn time. I've got a prescott chip. It's sitting in my closet. It hasn't run in months but I can still feel the heat coming off it.

Of course, new chip design means yet another motherboard. That's what I don't like about intel.

[Firehed]

Actually, the chips in the graphs appeared to be LGA775. But then again, it'll need a new chipset even if it is the same socket. Of course the fact of the matter is that intel does most of its business with OEMs, who could give less of a crap if the current chipset doesn't support the next processor.

I'm waiting for a good dual-core laptop. Maybe in the Mactel notebooks

[RotoSequence]

Interesting architecture Intel has going; nice short pipeline (14 stages), cool running (65 watts TDP for conroe), low power consumption (1-2 watts), and its all back compatible with current Intel chipset offerings. Shoot, they just got themselves in the foot.

The idea of using the FSB of netburst is a huge mistake IMO; they cant feed the Prescott properly as it is; what are the odds it will keep a multicore high efficiency design happy?

They better hope the competition doesnt roll anything out anything genuinely new for the next 8-12 months so they can catch upt to what is already being offered

[Kipman725]

it's still a big step forwards... but by the time they get this far amd will have moved on again. It's strange how intell now does cheeper slower chips than wheras they used to make expensive faster chips.

[RotoSequence]

Its a step forwards and in the right direction. However, if it cant deliver the kind of performance they promise and isnt as competitive as current offerings, it well could be the fourth nail in the coffin for Intel.

[Kipman725]

Intell have so much cash in reseve and have such a huge income it would take many years of screwups before any nails were in their coffin.

[RotoSequence]

There are already a few nails in the coffin; they just have lots of bloat that makes the coffin very, very large. Maybe they can get themselves a crowbar too

I wanna see what Jobs can do with Intel's chips nearer the official OSx86 release. It could be interesting to apple h8rs and apple fanboys alike

[soji]

true it will take along time for intel to go down but if they dotn do something about it now we might have another enron on our hands with everyone cashing out and leaving

[solidpoint]

"back in the day" we/I used to take great pride in being able to write lean and mean code that didn't lean on the next generation processor to bail us out of crap code. Over the last 10 years or so that ethos has seriously degraded as customers found hardware a cheaper solution than software to solving their capacity and performance problems. With this avenue now at a dead end, or very near it for many, many linear problems, perhaps there will be a renewed interest in hiring people that know the truth of the old maxim "those that write software which ignores the hardware will soon find the hardware is ignoring the software” I may even dust off my resume if Intel keeps waving the flag of surrender like this.

Having said all of this, there are problems in many fields that require thousands, millions or even billions of times the processing power now available in a single platform and they are not susceptible to parallel processing. It is sad to contemplate that these mysteries will go unsolved as the power to solve them slips from our grasp. Maybe in an ironic twist of fortunes AMD will end up selling to the high-end markets with ever-faster chips, more cores on a chip, and better data-bus designs, while Intel will service the WinTell consumer platforms of the masses. I just wish I could find someone that knew 10 of 12 algorithms in K&R.

[Highland3r]

The major issue dothan has atm, is the utter lack of bandwidth to the chip. Could be a similar story with new conroe's, its a shame that intel cant run some sort of unified/on chip memory controller as AMD is using with great effect on the A64 atm..

[Da Dego]

Uhhh....Stop and think about this, guys.

Anyone notice anything? They're REDEFINING benchmarks. That's something you do when you say "Damn, this didn't work like we thought it would...but it does have this OTHER feature...how can we get that out in the light?"

Granted, I'm all for low power, low heat chips. But in my desktop, which is connected to a nearly always-on power supply, to which I can affix massive cooling, I couldn't give two craps. I really couldn't. Yeah, it's nice additional features, but I wouldn't buy a processor that runs practically the same speed mine does now just because it has lower heat output. Particularly because the smaller transisters mean that much less OC capability before they start to interfere with one another.

I'm just not nuts about this new direction they're taking...and I think it will be enough to make me go with the good ol' green and black of amd for the next gen, and possibly beyond.