DDR3 memory to come in 2007 - bit-tech.net Forums

WilHarris · 23rd Aug 2005, 21:52

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2005/08...r3_memory_idf/

das_mod · 23rd Aug 2005, 22:18

I heard some rumors about a certain company already developing DDR3 chips ....
guess theres no other choice but to wait and see what will become the standard.

Kipman725 · 24th Aug 2005, 02:13

I read somewhere that amd might miss DDR2 out and go straight to DDR3 but this seems unlikely as DDR3 is for 07 and Soccet M2 for 06.

FIBRE+ · 24th Aug 2005, 02:34

Kinda off topic, but not...

What do you reckon we will have in our pc's in 2007 (High end wise)?

Firehed · 24th Aug 2005, 04:13

Around Q4'07, probably 4 (maybe 8 on really high end) cores at 2GHz (AMD) or 3GHz (intel), 4-8GB of ram (yeah, big range, deal with it) and probably nVidia's x800 (so, 7800GTX x2 x2 x2), with anywhere from 1-5TB of storage on a properly established SATA-II thing (300MB/s, NCQ, hot-swap, etc) and some with a solid-state ramdisk in the 8-16GB range on the same SATA-II.

I still think AMD will wait out till DDR3. Assuming it's available early 07, that's only 16 months or so, and I think they'd more likely accept PC4000 or PC4400 as an "official" RAM speed (250-300mhz HTT perhaps, vs current 200) as you can still get that with pretty decent timings and availability is pretty good until ready to make the jump. Maybe not, but I don't see AMD introducing a new socket and RAM type only a few months before the new thing is out, seeing as every single one of their processors would become obsolete as the memory controller is on-chip instead of Intel's northbridge method.

mclean007 · 24th Aug 2005, 15:37

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Originally Posted by Firehed

Around Q4'07, probably 4 (maybe 8 on really high end) cores at 2GHz (AMD) or 3GHz (intel), 4-8GB of ram (yeah, big range, deal with it) and probably nVidia's x800 (so, 7800GTX x2 x2 x2), with anywhere from 1-5TB of storage on a properly established SATA-II thing (300MB/s, NCQ, hot-swap, etc) and some with a solid-state ramdisk in the 8-16GB range on the same SATA-II.

And it will still take 5 minutes to do a simple text search on an Outlook folder with anything over 100 messages

Hamish · 24th Aug 2005, 15:45

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Originally Posted by Firehed

, with anywhere from 1-5TB of storage on a properly established SATA-II thing (300MB/s, NCQ, hot-swap, etc) and some with a solid-state ramdisk in the 8-16GB range on the same SATA-II.
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perpendicular disks :drool:
you've been able to hotswap since sata first came out tho, and i now have 2 hitachi t7k250 160gig drives in raid 0, they burst at 230MB/s and sustained transfer of ~100MB/s woo

Bindibadgi · 24th Aug 2005, 16:20

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Originally Posted by mclean007

And it will still take 5 minutes to do a simple text search on an Outlook folder with anything over 100 messages

HAHAHA

Probably cause you have Vista taking up 90% of your system resources in "helpful user (noob) search functionality" like that frikkin dog in XP.

mclean007 · 24th Aug 2005, 16:27

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Originally Posted by Bindibadgi

HAHAHA

Probably cause you have Vista taking up 90% of your system resources in "helpful user (noob) search functionality" like that frikkin dog in XP.

Man, am I fired up about that hi-def paperclip rendered in real-time HDR with bump-mapping and 16xAF. The day Office requires a better system than F.E.A.R. can't come soon enough as far as I'm concerned.

MiNiMaL_FuSS · 25th Aug 2005, 10:46

i thought the performance gains from DDR to DDR2 were pretty tiny in real life tests, AMD dosnt even use DDR2 yet anyway. And DDR2 is infact alot cheaper to pick up than DDR. Moving onto DDR3 before anyone really even cares about DDR2 seems a lil....pointless.

FredsFriend · 25th Aug 2005, 10:54

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Originally Posted by mclean007

Man, am I fired up about that hi-def paperclip rendered in real-time HDR with bump-mapping and 16xAF. The day Office requires a better system than F.E.A.R. can't come soon enough as far as I'm concerned.

Mmmm just imagine when they start quoting the size and number of textures used for the buttons, and the real time shadowing on the mouse cursor

unclean · 25th Aug 2005, 11:17

Firehed, AMD are already far into the 2GHz for dual core, i doubt it'd go any slow, i expect them to hit 3GHz in the near future with multiple cores.

AMD said they would adopt DDR2 when/if they see it actually out perform DDR. Which of course, may be never, and they'd jump do DDR3. They are also saying the Skt.939 should be around for another year and a bit - which is suggesting of a jump straight to DDR3. I'd imagine there would be a socket change when they do adopt the new standard as to avoid people sticking A64s with DDR memory controllers in DDR2/3 boards.

EDIT: I really wonder how those DDR2 -> DDR convertors fare with the Athlon(?!)

Hamish · 25th Aug 2005, 11:19

err yea its socket M2 with like 1200 pins or something and its due out next year sometime

23rd Aug 2005, 21:52	#1
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Firehed Why not? I own a domain to match. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: An hour north of Boston Posts: 12,576	Around Q4'07, probably 4 (maybe 8 on really high end) cores at 2GHz (AMD) or 3GHz (intel), 4-8GB of ram (yeah, big range, deal with it) and probably nVidia's x800 (so, 7800GTX x2 x2 x2), with anywhere from 1-5TB of storage on a properly established SATA-II thing (300MB/s, NCQ, hot-swap, etc) and some with a solid-state ramdisk in the 8-16GB range on the same SATA-II. I still think AMD will wait out till DDR3. Assuming it's available early 07, that's only 16 months or so, and I think they'd more likely accept PC4000 or PC4400 as an "official" RAM speed (250-300mhz HTT perhaps, vs current 200) as you can still get that with pretty decent timings and availability is pretty good until ready to make the jump. Maybe not, but I don't see AMD introducing a new socket and RAM type only a few months before the new thing is out, seeing as every single one of their processors would become obsolete as the memory controller is on-chip instead of Intel's northbridge method. __________________ hire me @ eric-stern.com - web developer and php ninja pics @ my smugmug :: Twitter @firehed :: blog @ firehed.net 40D\|580EXII\|285HV\|AB800\|70-200f/4LIS\|17-50f/2.8\|150f/2.8Macro\|50f/1.8 MacPro @ 8x2.8GHz, 10GB FBDDR2, 3TB HD :: MBP @ 2x2.2GHz, 4GB DDR2, 320GB HD

25th Aug 2005, 10:46	#10
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25th Aug 2005, 11:17	#12
unclean SMP obsessive Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Berkshire Posts: 1,190	Firehed, AMD are already far into the 2GHz for dual core, i doubt it'd go any slow, i expect them to hit 3GHz in the near future with multiple cores. AMD said they would adopt DDR2 when/if they see it actually out perform DDR. Which of course, may be never, and they'd jump do DDR3. They are also saying the Skt.939 should be around for another year and a bit - which is suggesting of a jump straight to DDR3. I'd imagine there would be a socket change when they do adopt the new standard as to avoid people sticking A64s with DDR memory controllers in DDR2/3 boards. EDIT: I really wonder how those DDR2 -> DDR convertors fare with the Athlon(?!) __________________ i7 920 @ 4GHz 6GB Tracer 4870X2 \|\| Dual Xeon X5340 @ 3GHz 12GB FBDIMM 4TB RAID5 w/27" Dell 2707WFP \|\| Dual 1.6GHz LV Xeons @ 3.2GHz \|\| Dual Athlon XP-M 2500+ @ 2350MHz \|\| Dual Athlon MP2400+ \|\| Dual Celeron 366 @ 550MHz

25th Aug 2005, 11:19	#13
Hamish I Mod, Therefore I Own Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: London Posts: 3,587	err yea its socket M2 with like 1200 pins or something and its due out next year sometime