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WilHarris · 25th Aug 2005, 19:06

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2005/08..._handtop_2007/

lepre · 25th Aug 2005, 20:28

the keyboard looks quite useless with that size...:|

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Glider · 25th Aug 2005, 21:07

Guess it wil cost a lot, and that huge screen... scratches would really hurt... and the keyboard is quite... small

but it seems like a nice gadget to me, but nothing really more then a gadget... unless it can replace the pda's in a good manner

kenco_uk · 25th Aug 2005, 22:55

The idea sounds, er.. sound - particularly if they go with the 'laptop' chip. I feel the PXA processors, while they could be scaled up (are they still at 624mhz atm?) would need quite some battery to keep it going.

I reckon there's a small revolution going on in laptop batterys atm and everyone's keeping shtum about it until it's a proven technology.

And, while a nice screen would be, er.. nice (!) that, too, would require some amount of juice to keep the colours flowing on screen.

dragon-fly · 26th Aug 2005, 04:41

if its a full fledged computer in a small dingy little thing, and tis not too expensive, it might be good : as long as tehre are connectors for an lcd pannel and usb for keyboard/mouse so we can use it as a real computer in a super mini shutle case.
and about the screen drawing millions of watts to power the thing : maybe they will use OLED screens, which draw very little power.

TheEclypse · 26th Aug 2005, 09:33

Well, seems like a cool gadget, although the keyboard seems a it small. But for me, I would have no use for it, as there is no data I need to carrying around with me that I cant remember, and my phone/mp3 player/wallet are about all i need when im on the move...then again, im a student.

Da Dego · 26th Aug 2005, 20:37

with the way blackberry devices have sprung up over here, I would not be surprised at all if most people decided that the keyboard wasn't the slightest problem. I do hope, however, that it is detachable, then the unit would be a rather nice size and quite attractive to me. Oh, and if they could get rid of that ugly white border...

cpu121 · 26th Aug 2005, 23:25

Doesn't this kind of device already exist for XP? Quick search on Google brings up a couple other designs as well.

The_Pope · 27th Aug 2005, 07:06

Is that a Vista Handtop in your pocket or are you just glad to see me? Seriously, that thing is massive. Are all these tiny keyboards to cover the fact that we aren't yet on voice recognition, something that was touted years ago?

Da Dego · 27th Aug 2005, 15:13

Pope, regardless of what stage the technology is at, VR is not always a great method for computer entry. For instance, I use my pocketpc in places where a laptop is unwieldy for note-taking...say, during a conference. It would be impossible for a device at this juncture to parse voices properly enough for dictation at any real distance, particularly in an acoustically unsound location (where echoes and muffles would abound), so I would have to repeat to it instead of simply typing on it...I don't think fellow conference-goers would want to listen to me repeating all the salient points so my machine could actually do something with it.

And I will agree that it's pretty big when you add the keyboard...but all technology shrinks in time, and between 3rd quarter 2005 and 2007 is a lot of time.

Cheap Mod Wannabe · 28th Aug 2005, 05:43

Sony had great full Windows Xp compatible handheld devices U-series (U70 was the most powerful/last model I think)... They stopped producing them before they even came to US. The price of such device will probably be too much. Unless it's below $900 I think it will follow the path of Sony's U-series. People who need portabiliy would still need a laptop and/or desktop for big screen/dvd/hdd and other features. All of the devices are too expensive when added up. So it would make more sense to get PDA + laptop instead. Market for these kinds of devises is just too small. Unless people will change that, I think that kind of devices will not breed freely in/from our pockets

Vigfus · 31st Aug 2005, 17:02

I would much rather have the model 01 as stated above. I can imagine myself just grabbing the device when i go out the door and the screen going blank. When i return ijust plug it back in, voila, fully fledged computer...

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kenco_uk glourious bacon? Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Bourne, Lincolnshire, UK Posts: 6,292	The idea sounds, er.. sound - particularly if they go with the 'laptop' chip. I feel the PXA processors, while they could be scaled up (are they still at 624mhz atm?) would need quite some battery to keep it going. I reckon there's a small revolution going on in laptop batterys atm and everyone's keeping shtum about it until it's a proven technology. And, while a nice screen would be, er.. nice (!) that, too, would require some amount of juice to keep the colours flowing on screen. __________________ MSI X58M - i7 920 4Ghz - 6GB Corsair - GTX260 648/2520 ::: Vote for bit-tech T - theevilelephant - "it sounded like bouncing around on a pogo stick, screaming in chinese while occasionally throwing a cat at a door."

26th Aug 2005, 04:41	#6
dragon-fly Minimodder Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 36	if its a full fledged computer in a small dingy little thing, and tis not too expensive, it might be good : as long as tehre are connectors for an lcd pannel and usb for keyboard/mouse so we can use it as a real computer in a super mini shutle case. and about the screen drawing millions of watts to power the thing : maybe they will use OLED screens, which draw very little power.

26th Aug 2005, 09:33	#7
TheEclypse Supermodder Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: England Posts: 407	Well, seems like a cool gadget, although the keyboard seems a it small. But for me, I would have no use for it, as there is no data I need to carrying around with me that I cant remember, and my phone/mp3 player/wallet are about all i need when im on the move...then again, im a student. __________________ Current Rig: Shuttle ST20G5 \| AMD Athlon64 4000+ San Diego \| X1950Pro \| 200Gb Samsung SpinPoint P120S SATA \| 1GB OCZ Performance \| NEC ND3540A \| 7-in-1 Floppy

26th Aug 2005, 20:37	#8
Da Dego Brett Thomas Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Cleveland, OH USA Posts: 3,906	with the way blackberry devices have sprung up over here, I would not be surprised at all if most people decided that the keyboard wasn't the slightest problem. I do hope, however, that it is detachable, then the unit would be a rather nice size and quite attractive to me. Oh, and if they could get rid of that ugly white border... __________________ "Frankly that seems overkill. iluvtrees2 arguing with spec is the intellectual equivalent of a bunny rabbit taking on a pissed-off lion." - Nexxo

26th Aug 2005, 23:25	#9
cpu121 Supermodder Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: UK Posts: 323	Doesn't this kind of device already exist for XP? Quick search on Google brings up a couple other designs as well.

27th Aug 2005, 07:06	#10
The_Pope Geoff Richards Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: UK Posts: 2,089	Is that a Vista Handtop in your pocket or are you just glad to see me? Seriously, that thing is massive. Are all these tiny keyboards to cover the fact that we aren't yet on voice recognition, something that was touted years ago?

27th Aug 2005, 15:13	#11
Da Dego Brett Thomas Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Cleveland, OH USA Posts: 3,906	Pope, regardless of what stage the technology is at, VR is not always a great method for computer entry. For instance, I use my pocketpc in places where a laptop is unwieldy for note-taking...say, during a conference. It would be impossible for a device at this juncture to parse voices properly enough for dictation at any real distance, particularly in an acoustically unsound location (where echoes and muffles would abound), so I would have to repeat to it instead of simply typing on it...I don't think fellow conference-goers would want to listen to me repeating all the salient points so my machine could actually do something with it. And I will agree that it's pretty big when you add the keyboard...but all technology shrinks in time, and between 3rd quarter 2005 and 2007 is a lot of time. __________________ "Frankly that seems overkill. iluvtrees2 arguing with spec is the intellectual equivalent of a bunny rabbit taking on a pissed-off lion." - Nexxo

28th Aug 2005, 05:43	#12
Cheap Mod Wannabe Ultramodder Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Glen Cove, NY Posts: 1,215	Sony had great full Windows Xp compatible handheld devices U-series (U70 was the most powerful/last model I think)... They stopped producing them before they even came to US. The price of such device will probably be too much. Unless it's below $900 I think it will follow the path of Sony's U-series. People who need portabiliy would still need a laptop and/or desktop for big screen/dvd/hdd and other features. All of the devices are too expensive when added up. So it would make more sense to get PDA + laptop instead. Market for these kinds of devises is just too small. Unless people will change that, I think that kind of devices will not breed freely in/from our pockets

31st Aug 2005, 17:02	#13
Vigfus Born to be... Join Date: May 2004 Location: Skåne, Sweden Posts: 775	I would much rather have the model 01 as stated above. I can imagine myself just grabbing the device when i go out the door and the screen going blank. When i return ijust plug it back in, voila, fully fledged computer... __________________ *"My grandfather died in the concentration camps, fell out a watch tower and broke his neck"* I am teh 1337: [Frozen CRT] \| [Wellpapp] Deus ex machina -> "Deh-oose ex ma-kee-nah" 55.02959% geek- Extreme geek. Get geek rated today!