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WilHarris · 26th Aug 2005, 14:54

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2005/08...max_works_idf/

Stompy · 26th Aug 2005, 15:25

I want to see this in cities and towns, so you can sit down anywhere and surf on a laptop or even PDA.

pman · 26th Aug 2005, 15:41

how much is it goning to cost and where are the strings?

mclean007 · 26th Aug 2005, 15:43

My concern is that, while 10Mbit sounds like a lot, put 1000 concurrent users on there (very conceivable in a city-sized hotzone) and, by the time you take account of inevitable inefficiencies (packets having to be re-sent because of collisions etc.) you're not left with a whole lot of bandwidth each. You'd be better off using GPRS.

However, I can see the point of this technology for rural areas where it's not cost-efficient to lay miles of cable / upgrade the exchange just for the sake of a relatively small number of users. The telco could put a single fat pipe into the local tavern (or similar nearest place with 'lectric and a "telly-phone", whatever those be) and supply the yokels within a large radius.

mclean007 · 26th Aug 2005, 16:23

Quote:

How can it fail with a logo like this?

ROFL!

eddie_dane · 26th Aug 2005, 16:35

There was an interesting story a while back on zdnet about an alliance between a wimax provider and vonage.

TowerStream, a provider of high-speed Internet services using cutting-edge WiMax technology, has teamed with Internet telephony giant Vonage in one of the first co-marketing agreements of its kind.

Starting today, TowerStream, of Middletown, R.I., is selling New Jersey-based Vonage's Internet telephony plans as part of its regular lineup of services. It will be one of the first such partnerships between a major Internet telephony provider and an Internet service using WiMax, a wireless method for distributing high-speed Internet access that rivals wired Net services from telephone and cable operators.

entire story here: http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1035_22-5815406.html

The idea of VoIP and internet access rolled up in one really appeals to me.

I hear what you are saying about bandwidth but at least with wimax, the ability to expand coverage (bandwidth) is much easier and economical than with traditional landline based solutions today. With cable-modem broadband here in the states, when a lot of users are online, you are petty much boned. With wimax, they could drop another coverage tower if service starts to suffer, much like mobile phone service. Only time will tell.

There are also rumors that google plans to make wireless interent free and some have speculated that wimax may be the key. They are already trying it in San Francisco.

Darkedge · 26th Aug 2005, 16:37

Well Wimax products ARE in the wild but bloody expensive:
http://www.metranet.co.uk/
These guys run a Huge Metropolitan Arean Network (HuMAN) or as intel ponce it up an HotZone, and they supply up to 10mbit pipes SDSL of course.

Firehed · 26th Aug 2005, 20:17

I like the idea, but 10Mbit isn't fast enough with the amount of users it will carry. Unless that works out to being "goes on an OC48 uberpipe, spits out 10Mbit to every single one of the 2500 users". Still, I wouldn't want to game on it *thinks back to trying to play Diablo II over 802.11b, shudders*

Da Dego · 26th Aug 2005, 21:14

Wimax is part of the technology background of intel's Digital Communities (news article released last friday). Yep, it works, and it's also under trial in Taipei. Seems that things are going quite smoothly there.

The bandwidth *supposedly* is quite impressive when actually in use...and there's also using multiple towers if you overlap your coverage, which will increase it.

Kipman725 · 28th Aug 2005, 08:59

well i'm posting from a hotel in germays black forest at the moment. As I'm mostly nocturnal I can imagain with this tech I would have 10mits to myself

TJK · 28th Aug 2005, 19:45

i was at a business technology seminar in Chicago this past week and there was a lot of talk about it - seems like in the US the cable and phone companies are trying to suppress the news about it, there are becoming more and more breakthroughs that supposedly allow 50-75megabits per second throughput for ALL users connected, which would be used to stream HD content, as well as VOIP and high speed internet access. It also seems that a major US company is buying up tower space on high buildings in chicago, nyc and some major cities in CA. They want to be the first to cover the whole city with coverage

seems pretty interesting to me anyway

NineTailedFox · 2nd Sep 2005, 01:26

Take a look see.
http://whirlpool.net.au/article.cfm/1535?show=replies

26th Aug 2005, 14:54	#1
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eddie_dane below zero yáll Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: South Cackalaki, US Posts: 4,750	There was an interesting story a while back on zdnet about an alliance between a wimax provider and vonage. TowerStream, a provider of high-speed Internet services using cutting-edge WiMax technology, has teamed with Internet telephony giant Vonage in one of the first co-marketing agreements of its kind. Starting today, TowerStream, of Middletown, R.I., is selling New Jersey-based Vonage's Internet telephony plans as part of its regular lineup of services. It will be one of the first such partnerships between a major Internet telephony provider and an Internet service using WiMax, a wireless method for distributing high-speed Internet access that rivals wired Net services from telephone and cable operators. entire story here: http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1035_22-5815406.html The idea of VoIP and internet access rolled up in one really appeals to me. I hear what you are saying about bandwidth but at least with wimax, the ability to expand coverage (bandwidth) is much easier and economical than with traditional landline based solutions today. With cable-modem broadband here in the states, when a lot of users are online, you are petty much boned. With wimax, they could drop another coverage tower if service starts to suffer, much like mobile phone service. Only time will tell. There are also rumors that google plans to make wireless interent free and some have speculated that wimax may be the key. They are already trying it in San Francisco. __________________ <Linear> "poor drainage is ruining my marriage". <My Wife> "I know everything, which is why you're in trouble all the time." <KNA - aka my hero>Chris, I'm not in your signature file.. can you rectify this anomaly please. my flickr shutterdoggy.com

26th Aug 2005, 20:17	#8
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26th Aug 2005, 15:43	#4
mclean007 Officious Bystander Join Date: May 2003 Location: Nodnol Posts: 1,597	My concern is that, while 10Mbit sounds like a lot, put 1000 concurrent users on there (very conceivable in a city-sized hotzone) and, by the time you take account of inevitable inefficiencies (packets having to be re-sent because of collisions etc.) you're not left with a whole lot of bandwidth each. You'd be better off using GPRS. However, I can see the point of this technology for rural areas where it's not cost-efficient to lay miles of cable / upgrade the exchange just for the sake of a relatively small number of users. The telco could put a single fat pipe into the local tavern (or similar nearest place with 'lectric and a "telly-phone", whatever those be) and supply the yokels within a large radius.

26th Aug 2005, 16:37	#7
Darkedge Supermodder Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: UK Posts: 334	Well Wimax products ARE in the wild but bloody expensive: http://www.metranet.co.uk/ These guys run a Huge Metropolitan Arean Network (HuMAN) or as intel ponce it up an HotZone, and they supply up to 10mbit pipes SDSL of course.

26th Aug 2005, 21:14	#9
Da Dego Brett Thomas Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Cleveland, OH USA Posts: 3,906	Wimax is part of the technology background of intel's Digital Communities (news article released last friday). Yep, it works, and it's also under trial in Taipei. Seems that things are going quite smoothly there. The bandwidth supposedly is quite impressive when actually in use...and there's also using multiple towers if you overlap your coverage, which will increase it. __________________ "Frankly that seems overkill. iluvtrees2 arguing with spec is the intellectual equivalent of a bunny rabbit taking on a pissed-off lion." - Nexxo

28th Aug 2005, 08:59	#10
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28th Aug 2005, 19:45	#11
TJK Supermodder Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 276	i was at a business technology seminar in Chicago this past week and there was a lot of talk about it - seems like in the US the cable and phone companies are trying to suppress the news about it, there are becoming more and more breakthroughs that supposedly allow 50-75megabits per second throughput for ALL users connected, which would be used to stream HD content, as well as VOIP and high speed internet access. It also seems that a major US company is buying up tower space on high buildings in chicago, nyc and some major cities in CA. They want to be the first to cover the whole city with coverage seems pretty interesting to me anyway __________________ Current specs - AMD 2600+ Mobile - OC'd to 2.05 Ghz, 512 DDR 400, Zalman 7000Cu, a crappy NVidia 64mb video card, and an Abit NF7-S. Dual 200GB PATA drives, and dual 16x dual layer dvd burners

2nd Sep 2005, 01:26	#12
NineTailedFox What's a Dremel? Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 2	WiMax in Australia Take a look see. http://whirlpool.net.au/article.cfm/1535?show=replies