News Intel: AMD sucks, leave us alone

[WilHarris]

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2005/09..._amd_rebuttal/

[atanum141]

To sum up, though, Intel's argument is that firms choose to use Intel chips, exclusively, because Intel chips are great. Intel says it has been at the forefront of innovation

That made he roffle so hard i fell off my chair

[MiNiMaL_FuSS]

if i could burn intel to the ground the world would be a better place for it.

utoh the suits are already here!!
"what...me...no i didnt say....lawsuit!...oh just a savage beating to elimiante bad press about you, fair enough then i suppo.....

[webbyman]

Originally Posted by MiNiMaL_FuSS

When Intel gets to point 38 in its rebuttal, it starts talking about Dell. AMD, said Intel, denies Kevin Rollins said any such thing. But Intel admitted Dell "elected not to purchase [buy, Ed.]" AMD processors.

Intel also denies it made multi million payments to Sony to ensure exclusivity. Sony chose Intel because it was fabtastic.

Intel said it didn't pay lots of money to Toshiba either, in point 41. Toshiba chose Intel because of the "innovativeness" [is that a word? Ed.] of Intel's offerings.

Intel said NEC wasn't its particular partner in point 42.

Intel said Fujitsu wasn't its partner either, exclusively, in point 43.

Intel said Hitachi wasn't its exclusive partner, either in point 44. Hitachi "chose to consolidate its microprocessor purchases [buys] with Intel based on price, performance, quality, reliability and innovativeness."

Intel denied it offered loads of money to Gateway to just use its chips.

Intel said it didn't know anything about "the state of mind" of Supermicro. Supermicro "didn't fear Intel".

Intel claimed it had never bullied HP. Intel claimed it knew nothing about IBM. Intel lacked sufficient information about Fujitsu Siemens.

In short, Intel denies everything

Rofl thats alot to lie about

intel must have some great laywers to deny all of that.

[Flibblebot]

Originally Posted by The Inquirer

Points one to ten in its filings said that Intel was better than AMD

Well, that's going to put a stop to all of the fanboy arguments
Intel said it, so it must be true...right?

[L2wis]

AMD will be righteous victor's after this court case!

[perplekks45]

In fact, has it ever been a secret there were those offers by Intel, AMD, MicroSoft, whatever? I mean: There have always been companies payin' a shitload of money to buy a better position on the market.
So for me it doesn't really matter who'll be winning and who'll be whining. I'll stick to AMD simply because they are cheaper and way faster as far as I experienced.

[FIBRE+]

Intel is just a big fat bully that wets the bed!!!!!

[Firehed]

"Intel: AMD sucks, leave us alone"
"Firehed: Intel sucks, STFU!"

[Isotopian]

All I can think of when I think about this is a thread I read a couple months ago about the dude on here who managed to get some opterons out of Dell- how he had to wade through forty tons of bulls**t about why intel was the better choice before they said, 'ok we can sell you a computer with some AMD Inside.'
To keep it real, Intel is screwed, cuz everyone 'knows' (ok, we don't know, but we sure as hell have some good reasons to believe) that theyve been sh***in on AMD for way too long now.

[ZapWizard]

Paragraph 82 of Intel's total denial affects the INQUIRER. Intel is denying that Mike Magee and Charlie Demerjian, both of whom work for the INQ, knew anything at all about Intel threatening AMD at its Opteron launch in 2002. Intel denies the allegation. It lacks "sufficient information". But if either Tweedledee or Tweedledum attempt to subpoena journalists at "a computer industry trade journal" - that's us - we think they'll find they'll have more on their plate than either of them can contemplate.
And is Intel calling Charlie and me liars? If that's so, I think Intel will find it's bitten off more than it can chew. µ

I like that part. Intel say's that the Inquirer didn't know anything...yet they don't know what the Inquirer even knew. (This make sense?)
-Also most claims that Intel sells their parts at lower prices is them talking about OEMs..who make the extra money as they don't exactly pass to savings onto the consumer.

[Pelihirmu]

it has never needed to 'bully' anyone, since everyone loves it.

Ookeey

Like FIBRE+ sayd that Intel is just a big fat bully! Why bay Intel when AMD is cheaper and more powerful

[MrWillyWonka]

Originally Posted by Pelihirmu

Ookeey

Like FIBRE+ sayd that Intel is just a big fat bully! Why bay Intel when AMD is cheaper and more powerful

Pretty much what I would say too. AMD has definatly got better and better a lot faster than Intel, AMD has released new chips and so on, Intel is pretty much he same as it was 2 years ago.

[FIBRE+]

They know they dont have to do much to keep the market (until now).

Ask most people who dont know much about computers what processors are better, Amd or Intel? The answer will normally be Intel, thats not the bit that baffles me, its when you ask why! "errr, ermm... cos there just better and everyone else has one".

Ive had Intels before, especially back in the day (my overclocked 166mmx kicked ass), but to be honest Amd have caught up (and over took) so quickly. You get a faster cpu for less money thats the bottom line. Intel has its plus points but its not worth the extra money in most peoples eyes and mine.

Most of us just want the best deal from our hard earned cash, its that simple really.

If Intel has been screwing around theyl pay the price in the end

[MrWillyWonka]

Originally Posted by FIBRE+

They know they dont have to do much to keep the market (until now).

Ask most people who dont know much about computers what processors are better, Amd or Intel? The answer will normally be Intel, thats not the bit that baffles me, its when you ask why! "errr, ermm... cos there just better and everyone else has one".

Ive had Intels before, especially back in the day (my overclocked 166mmx kicked ass), but to be honest Amd have caught up (and over took) so quickly. You get a faster cpu for less money thats the bottom line. Intel has its plus points but its not worth the extra money in most peoples eyes and mine.

Most of us just want the best deal from our hard earned cash, its that simple really.

If Intel has been screwing around theyl pay the price in the end

The only reason why people who don't know much about computer say Intel is because they only know that intel exists. Most premade laptops have intel processors, not sure about desktops though and intel does a lot of advertising, in newspapers, magazines and most of all, on TV and I've never seen AMD do any advertising.

[battery]

AMD has a right to accuse Intel methinks, the company I just started work for, out of 4 sites had no AMD machines, a lot of the machines are Fujitsu and, you guessed it, all are Intel's. Intel have (IMHO) a lot to answer for.

In fact not one of the PC users at any of the sites have heard of anything but Intel. But no fear, they no longer have to accept what the sub-contracted "IT specialist" buys or recommends

[tecate]

After reading this I remembered those laptop commercials that always add "with new powerful Intel Centrino technology inside". That is probably why many regular people would pick Intel.

/Is happily stroking his AMD-based laptop...

[FIBRE+]

Maybe we should all go with a good ol Cyrix

Theres a review of the Cyrix/VIA MII-PR433 here, get ready for the awsome power, well heat I mean, they were like hotplates!

[msw044]

None of you no life gaming nerds know what you are talking about. The only thing any of you see is your own little world of gaming and surfing youtube. Intel makes an awesome chip that far exceeds AMD in every way, speed, stability, and reliability. I currently own both and have had zero problems with the Intel Dual core and the quad core. AMD not so much, I have an AMD in my business computer, pure junk might as well be a coaster, about the only thing it is good for, my son uses it to play "SPORE" AMD has spent almost all of it's life nipping at Intel's ankles suing because it knows Intel makes a better chip. AMD relies on nerd gamers like you all to carry their company and thats why they have to spend all their time suing Intel to make up for the lack of sales. I hear it all the time "who make a better chip Intel or AMD?" the answer is always the same "depends on what you want to do with it, work or gaming" Intel=work, AMD=gaming. For you little nerds that spend all your time locked in your bed rooms playing games a jacking off, I suppose AMD is the chip for you.

[Tim S]

Originally Posted by msw044

None of you no life gaming nerds know what you are talking about. The only thing any of you see is your own little world of gaming and surfing youtube. Intel makes an awesome chip that far exceeds AMD in every way, speed, stability, and reliability. I currently own both and have had zero problems with the Intel Dual core and the quad core. AMD not so much, I have an AMD in my business computer, pure junk might as well be a coaster, about the only thing it is good for, my son uses it to play "SPORE" AMD has spent almost all of it's life nipping at Intel's ankles suing because it knows Intel makes a better chip. AMD relies on nerd gamers like you all to carry their company and thats why they have to spend all their time suing Intel to make up for the lack of sales. I hear it all the time "who make a better chip Intel or AMD?" the answer is always the same "depends on what you want to do with it, work or gaming" Intel=work, AMD=gaming. For you little nerds that spend all your time locked in your bed rooms playing games a jacking off, I suppose AMD is the chip for you.

Thanks for the laugh.

Now go back to your bedroom and don't come out for at least three weeks.