Samsung announces 16GB flash chips - bit-tech.net Forums

WilHarris · 12th Sep 2005, 16:05

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2005/09...ng_16gb_flash/

Nexxo · 12th Sep 2005, 16:22

Enter iPod Nano: The Next Generation.

RTT · 12th Sep 2005, 16:26

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Originally Posted by Nexxo

Enter iPod Nano: The Next Generation.

What this man said

TheEclypse · 12th Sep 2005, 16:52

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Originally Posted by Nexxo

Enter iPod Nano: The Next Generation.

You jumped on the band wagon too soon

DarkReaper · 12th Sep 2005, 17:26

Ooooh yeah...

Rain · 12th Sep 2005, 19:40

I just cant wait for the hard drives for the PC, just plug it onto your motherboard and whoooshhh ! ! !

But would the bottle neck then be the BUS speed on the motherboard

Da Dego · 12th Sep 2005, 19:50

Yes, Rain....we'd need a better interface than we do now for USB2. Now if we could use these on SATA....

We'd be able to hit the theoretical boundaries.

Dad · 12th Sep 2005, 19:55

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Originally Posted by Da Dego

Yes, Rain....we'd need a better interface than we do now for USB2. Now if we could use these on SATA....

We'd be able to hit the theoretical boundaries.

Maybe throw them into CF cards and get a cf->ide converter?

perplekks45 · 12th Sep 2005, 20:10

Is there any actual limit for flash chips being connected? I mean: Would it be possible to have somewhat like 10 or even 20 of these nice chips "in line"?
Yep, call me noob if you'd like to.

Nexxo · 12th Sep 2005, 20:23

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Originally Posted by Dad

Maybe throw them into CF cards and get a cf->ide converter?

Well yeah! At 16Gb we finally get a size that will hold an OS. Imagine the boot-up speed of that sucker!

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Originally Posted by aon`aTv.gsus666

Is there any actual limit for flash chips being connected? I mean: Would it be possible to have somewhat like 10 or even 20 of these nice chips "in line"?

Nope, that's how the iPod Nano gets its 4Gb --by having two 2Gb chips.

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Originally Posted by aon`aTv.gsus666

Yep, call me noob if you'd like to.

OK, you're a noob if you'd like to.

Fr4nk · 12th Sep 2005, 20:31

Ipod Nano here I come, This realy is quite the achievement 16gb in a flash chip

.

Welldone samsung

-Frank

Neo40k · 12th Sep 2005, 21:56

gotta love solid data...sweet stuff!

....they need a screen-less option for maximum battery life...or a screen off....hmmm

MrWillyWonka · 12th Sep 2005, 22:02

I'm sure I posted here earlier

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Originally Posted by Nexxo

Well yeah! At 16Gb we finally get a size that will hold an OS. Imagine the boot-up speed of that sucker!

4GB is enough for an OS, maybe even 2GB!

But I do want to have an OS that will boot off one of these disks, would deffo be a lot faster. And eventually, we'll be getting to silent hard drives!

So we'll be seeing some higher caacity usb pen drives then? - Although they do use a different format.

TheEclypse · 12th Sep 2005, 22:15

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Originally Posted by MrWillyWonka

silent hard drives!

A dream no more!

DeX · 12th Sep 2005, 22:49

Way to confuse everyone bit-tech. Now everyone thinks that Samsung are developing 16 giga-BYTE chips. If you read the article they say giga-BIT so that's only 2 gigabytes. Still it won't be long before we have 16gb on one chip I guess

Da Dego · 12th Sep 2005, 22:54

Hehe...WHOOPS...Big typo that's my fault, guys. The article is still valid, however (as gb is diff from GB) except for title.

I was reading other discussions and got caught up on something talking about Apple's plan for chaining to make 16 and 32GB Nanos, and 32-64GB on a CF card, and I must've typed it wrong.

Thanks for the correction, Dex... (as Wil aims to shoot me for not specifying clearer)

DeX · 12th Sep 2005, 22:58

It's not your fault. It's that Will's article did not make the distinction between gigabyte and gigabit and used gb to represent both measures.

TheEclypse · 12th Sep 2005, 23:05

Da Dego · 12th Sep 2005, 23:05

Well, that I can't attest to, but when writing it I had meant to spell it out, and didn't. So he probably figured I knew what the hell I was talking about, which is occasionally dangerous.

As I said, my bad guys.

And don't worry, Eclypse. The rest of it still holds true, and it's still quite an achievement. Apple is looking for these chips to expand to 16-32GB Nano, according to Samsung.

These chips aren't exactly large, after all.

Firehed · 13th Sep 2005, 06:50

Huh. Well as for all you 'instant booting' guys, flash doesn't have a great lifespan, relative to an OS disk, and only boasts nanosecond seek time, but still isn't very fast sustained. Wait for gigabytes i-ram or whatever for that (4 DIMMs on a PCI card for power, basically up to 4GB solid-state drive with no seek time and will max SATA150)

Still, promising tech. I'd like to see the Gen5 iPod using flash instead of hard drives if it were possible. I mean, what else could Apple have in store? The clickwheel really doesn't need changing (except losing the dirty grey color in contrast to the white, though I don't love white either), the new Gen4's are already in color, it's really just storage after that isn't it? FLAC support would be a nice touch though.

12th Sep 2005, 16:05	#1
WilHarris Just another nobody Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Oxford Posts: 2,671	Samsung announces 16GB flash chips http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2005/09...ng_16gb_flash/

12th Sep 2005, 16:22	#2
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12th Sep 2005, 19:40	#6
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Da Dego Brett Thomas Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Cleveland, OH USA Posts: 3,906	Yes, Rain....we'd need a better interface than we do now for USB2. Now if we could use these on SATA.... We'd be able to hit the theoretical boundaries. __________________ "Frankly that seems overkill. iluvtrees2 arguing with spec is the intellectual equivalent of a bunny rabbit taking on a pissed-off lion." - Nexxo

12th Sep 2005, 20:10	#9
perplekks45 BSc... finally Join Date: May 2004 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,353	Is there any actual limit for flash chips being connected? I mean: Would it be possible to have somewhat like 10 or even 20 of these nice chips "in line"? Yep, call me noob if you'd like to. __________________ "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far." Blame it on Cheaps! [now a social group]

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Fr4nk Tyrannosaurus Alan ! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Uk, Essex Posts: 2,367	Ipod Nano here I come, This realy is quite the achievement 16gb in a flash chip . Welldone samsung -Frank __________________ {Macbook Pro + Dell 2407 WFP - Canon 3000V + Canon 350D + BG-E3 + Sigma 10-20mm + 50mm f1.8 + kit 28-90mm EF - Rolleiflex 2.8 TLR} *Flickr ~Flickriver ^ My Behance Art Folio

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12th Sep 2005, 22:49	#15
DeX Mube Codder Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: London, UK Posts: 4,103	Way to confuse everyone bit-tech. Now everyone thinks that Samsung are developing 16 giga-BYTE chips. If you read the article they say giga-BIT so that's only 2 gigabytes. Still it won't be long before we have 16gb on one chip I guess __________________ Play my game: Shyguy's Cave of Death! If you dont have the time to check your spelling and grammar, you dont have the time to post! -Liquid K9

12th Sep 2005, 22:54	#16
Da Dego Brett Thomas Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Cleveland, OH USA Posts: 3,906	Hehe...WHOOPS...Big typo that's my fault, guys. The article is still valid, however (as gb is diff from GB) except for title. I was reading other discussions and got caught up on something talking about Apple's plan for chaining to make 16 and 32GB Nanos, and 32-64GB on a CF card, and I must've typed it wrong. Thanks for the correction, Dex... (as Wil aims to shoot me for not specifying clearer) __________________ "Frankly that seems overkill. iluvtrees2 arguing with spec is the intellectual equivalent of a bunny rabbit taking on a pissed-off lion." - Nexxo Last edited by Da Dego; 12th Sep 2005 at 23:02. Reason: clarification

12th Sep 2005, 22:58	#17
DeX Mube Codder Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: London, UK Posts: 4,103	It's not your fault. It's that Will's article did not make the distinction between gigabyte and gigabit and used gb to represent both measures. __________________ Play my game: Shyguy's Cave of Death! If you dont have the time to check your spelling and grammar, you dont have the time to post! -Liquid K9

12th Sep 2005, 23:05	#18
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13th Sep 2005, 06:50	#20
Firehed Why not? I own a domain to match. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: An hour north of Boston Posts: 12,576	Huh. Well as for all you 'instant booting' guys, flash doesn't have a great lifespan, relative to an OS disk, and only boasts nanosecond seek time, but still isn't very fast sustained. Wait for gigabytes i-ram or whatever for that (4 DIMMs on a PCI card for power, basically up to 4GB solid-state drive with no seek time and will max SATA150) Still, promising tech. I'd like to see the Gen5 iPod using flash instead of hard drives if it were possible. I mean, what else could Apple have in store? The clickwheel really doesn't need changing (except losing the dirty grey color in contrast to the white, though I don't love white either), the new Gen4's are already in color, it's really just storage after that isn't it? FLAC support would be a nice touch though. __________________ hire me @ eric-stern.com - web developer and php ninja pics @ my smugmug :: Twitter @firehed :: blog @ firehed.net 40D\|580EXII\|285HV\|AB800\|70-200f/4LIS\|17-50f/2.8\|150f/2.8Macro\|50f/1.8 MacPro @ 8x2.8GHz, 10GB FBDDR2, 3TB HD :: MBP @ 2x2.2GHz, 4GB DDR2, 320GB HD