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WilHarris · 16th Sep 2005, 20:02

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2005/09...re_benchmarks/

Fr4nk · 16th Sep 2005, 20:39

[fanboy] haha... all this waiting and it can't beat tthe 7800s (even at HL2 and thats for ATI)

[/fanboy]

but seroiusly this is quite disspointing I would thought more of CF....

EDIT: The next questions is how much is this "Extreme" preformance gonna cost ?

-Frank

Firehed · 16th Sep 2005, 20:44

Frankly craptastic going by the summaries. TBH I thought it would be. Their HL2 numbers seem really low all around though, I play 1600x1200 4xAA 8xAF and I must average 100FPS (single 6800GT right now, comeon someone buy the other!) Hopefully they can sell off of hype.

Da Dego · 16th Sep 2005, 20:46

There's also first benches of the R520 (dubbed Radeon 1800)...also not promising. But it's a leak from a partner, not an actual total review of the product...let me find the linky.

Here.

Cheap Mod Wannabe · 16th Sep 2005, 21:28

Quite sad even for me, nvidia fan. I though it would win or at lest be very close to 7800. I guess nvidia will not be significantly dropping prices. Maybe mass production units will bench a bit better...

nemesis80 · 16th Sep 2005, 21:33

just let this technologie developpe a little, SLI wasnt all powerfull when it came out you know

koola · 16th Sep 2005, 21:42

I'm sure ATI will have it on par if not better than Nvidia before its release

WilHarris · 16th Sep 2005, 21:49

For some bizarre reason, I read that entire article as being about CrossFire, and utterly didn't read the R520 bit.

WTF?? I'm spending too much time on CrossFire at the moment, clearly. Updating now.

RotoSequence · 16th Sep 2005, 21:57

If this is the best ATI is able to do, why are they even trying?

Their dual graphics solution, if this data pans out, is terrifically bad, and leaves room for no market. No game cant be run by the 7800 GTX; in SLI, even Battlefield 2 can be run at high resolutions. As a result, people will be playing their games at super high resolutions when they have dual graphics-but Crossfire cant do decent dual graphics at more than 1600x1200 (if you can call 60 hz decent). This is just plain un-usable IMO.

Hamish · 16th Sep 2005, 22:07

lolwtf my x800xl gets better fps than that in HL2 and at higher AA settings
thats really poor, im waiting for the r580 which should hopefully be 32 pipes or at least 24

Kipman725 · 16th Sep 2005, 22:25

lame... seriously the 7800gtx isn't a very big leap performance wise over the 6800gt and yet this card ati have been working on for months more than nvidia is owned on a game made for ATI cards. Unless these benchmarks are false/biased I have no idea why you would get one of these cards unless you could pick them up alot cheeper than the 7800gtx.

Firehed · 16th Sep 2005, 22:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by nemesis80

just let this technologie developpe a little, SLI wasnt all powerfull when it came out you know

Umm... yes it was. In fact it just about doubled performance at high res if you have a decent CPU to back it.

Leeum · 16th Sep 2005, 22:58

Good to see ATi are at work for a change

Pookeyhead · 16th Sep 2005, 23:13

Seeing what ATi's response to the 7800 GTX was one of the things I was waiting for before I upgrade... looks like I was worried over nothing... it's clearly pants. 2x 7800 GTX's for me then

Crossfire looks like a heap of steaming dung as well IMO. Sod it.. ATi have had their chance with me, and already blew it by convincing me to buy a 9800pro, which is rubbish as well. What makes me laugh is the expected prices for these heaps of total donkey sick! Pay more get less... Mmm.. yes please... NOT.

Hamish · 16th Sep 2005, 23:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pookeyhead

Sod it.. ATi have had their chance with me, and already blew it by convincing me to buy a 9800pro, which is rubbish as well. .

hey now, 9800p was a fantastic card, far far superior to the crappy FX series it was competing against at the time

RotoSequence · 16th Sep 2005, 23:52

Hey what now? The 9800 Pro was a wonderful card in its time. Its superseded by last generation's tech of course, but still, it was great at the time.

Firehed · 17th Sep 2005, 01:13

Indeed. But let's not get caught up on 9xxx/FX because ATi clearly took that one. But nVidia's won with both 6- and 7-series IMO (6-series is debatable with the x850XT, but not once you throw SLI in, or availability). I can't wait for nVidia's 9-series

Da Dego · 17th Sep 2005, 01:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hamish

hey now, 9800p was a fantastic card, far far superior to the crappy FX series it was competing against at the time

Amen to that. I even prefer NVidia, but the 9800 owned the market for a very, VERY long time.

6 and 7 series, however, have shaped NVidia to be a clear winner for this round.

3.5SE · 17th Sep 2005, 05:39

Makes me glad I made the switch from ATI to Nvidia.
The 9800 pro is a great card by the way - that card held up real well. I'm playing Battlefield 2 with it currently and it plays just fine. Makes me wonder why I bought a 7800 GT - although I haven't played with the 7800 yet - going to be re-building my system in a week or so. It is pretty sad to see what's happened to ATI. But I guess this goes in cycles - ATI in the lead then Nvidia in the lead - back and forth. Would have expected more from ATI but you can't win them all.
I honestly don't think it's all that fair to compare SLI systems to non-SLI systems. I like to see 1 card systems vs. 1 card systems. You take a one card ATI solution and then compare it to a much more expensive SLI Nvidia solution - It damn well should be faster for the cost of a second card. When ATI gets their crossfire out then I think you have a fair comparison ATI's crossfire vs. Nvidia's SLI. Let the better solution win. I'm no fan boy of either company - let the best card/solution win.

Froggy · 17th Sep 2005, 05:44

OK how is this benchmarks for crossfire when none of the benchmarks are for any card in crossfire? No **** SLI 7800s are faster than a single ATI, i expected that. Alot of posts in here are dissing something we have little info on. Ill wait a few more days till all the REAL benchmarks come out.

16th Sep 2005, 20:02	#1
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16th Sep 2005, 20:39	#2
Fr4nk Tyrannosaurus Alan ! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Uk, Essex Posts: 2,367	[fanboy] haha... all this waiting and it can't beat tthe 7800s (even at HL2 and thats for ATI) [/fanboy] but seroiusly this is quite disspointing I would thought more of CF.... EDIT: The next questions is how much is this "Extreme" preformance gonna cost ? -Frank __________________ {Macbook Pro + Dell 2407 WFP - Canon 3000V + Canon 350D + BG-E3 + Sigma 10-20mm + 50mm f1.8 + kit 28-90mm EF - Rolleiflex 2.8 TLR} *Flickr ~Flickriver ^ My Behance Art Folio

16th Sep 2005, 20:44	#3
Firehed Why not? I own a domain to match. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: An hour north of Boston Posts: 12,576	Frankly craptastic going by the summaries. TBH I thought it would be. Their HL2 numbers seem really low all around though, I play 1600x1200 4xAA 8xAF and I must average 100FPS (single 6800GT right now, comeon someone buy the other!) Hopefully they can sell off of hype. __________________ hire me @ eric-stern.com - web developer and php ninja pics @ my smugmug :: Twitter @firehed :: blog @ firehed.net 40D\|580EXII\|285HV\|AB800\|70-200f/4LIS\|17-50f/2.8\|150f/2.8Macro\|50f/1.8 MacPro @ 8x2.8GHz, 10GB FBDDR2, 3TB HD :: MBP @ 2x2.2GHz, 4GB DDR2, 320GB HD

16th Sep 2005, 20:46	#4
Da Dego Brett Thomas Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Cleveland, OH USA Posts: 3,906	There's also first benches of the R520 (dubbed Radeon 1800)...also not promising. But it's a leak from a partner, not an actual total review of the product...let me find the linky. Here. __________________ "Frankly that seems overkill. iluvtrees2 arguing with spec is the intellectual equivalent of a bunny rabbit taking on a pissed-off lion." - Nexxo

16th Sep 2005, 21:33	#6
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16th Sep 2005, 21:28	#5
Cheap Mod Wannabe Ultramodder Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Glen Cove, NY Posts: 1,215	Quite sad even for me, nvidia fan. I though it would win or at lest be very close to 7800. I guess nvidia will not be significantly dropping prices. Maybe mass production units will bench a bit better...

16th Sep 2005, 21:42	#7
koola Eat my... Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: UK Posts: 2,210	I'm sure ATI will have it on par if not better than Nvidia before its release __________________ PSN: koola-uk

16th Sep 2005, 21:49	#8
WilHarris Just another nobody Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Oxford Posts: 2,671	For some bizarre reason, I read that entire article as being about CrossFire, and utterly didn't read the R520 bit. WTF?? I'm spending too much time on CrossFire at the moment, clearly. Updating now.

16th Sep 2005, 21:57	#9
RotoSequence Lazy Lurker Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: 'States Posts: 4,529	If this is the best ATI is able to do, why are they even trying? Their dual graphics solution, if this data pans out, is terrifically bad, and leaves room for no market. No game cant be run by the 7800 GTX; in SLI, even Battlefield 2 can be run at high resolutions. As a result, people will be playing their games at super high resolutions when they have dual graphics-but Crossfire cant do decent dual graphics at more than 1600x1200 (if you can call 60 hz decent). This is just plain un-usable IMO. __________________ Technology Schmecnology

16th Sep 2005, 22:07	#10
Hamish I Mod, Therefore I Own Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: London Posts: 3,587	lolwtf my x800xl gets better fps than that in HL2 and at higher AA settings thats really poor, im waiting for the r580 which should hopefully be 32 pipes or at least 24

16th Sep 2005, 22:25	#11
Kipman725 When did I get a custom title!?! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: UK Posts: 1,753	lame... seriously the 7800gtx isn't a very big leap performance wise over the 6800gt and yet this card ati have been working on for months more than nvidia is owned on a game made for ATI cards. Unless these benchmarks are false/biased I have no idea why you would get one of these cards unless you could pick them up alot cheeper than the 7800gtx. __________________ Sn45g game server mod My Electronics Site Hardware: 3400+ Sempr0n, 1GB RAM, 1.28TB local storage, x1950pro,Razer Viper,M$ comfort curve 2000,L70S + 17", Fujitsu 17" CRT Audio: HD-650's, PE congress amp, Sound Blaster AWE64, Soundblaster 24bit

16th Sep 2005, 22:58	#13
Leeum Mod Master Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 2,487	Good to see ATi are at work for a change

16th Sep 2005, 23:13	#14
Pookeyhead It's Big, and It's Clever Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Blackpool Posts: 4,935	Seeing what ATi's response to the 7800 GTX was one of the things I was waiting for before I upgrade... looks like I was worried over nothing... it's clearly pants. 2x 7800 GTX's for me then Crossfire looks like a heap of steaming dung as well IMO. Sod it.. ATi have had their chance with me, and already blew it by convincing me to buy a 9800pro, which is rubbish as well. What makes me laugh is the expected prices for these heaps of total donkey sick! Pay more get less... Mmm.. yes please... NOT. __________________ Intel i7 920 @ 3.8GHz ¦¦ Asus P6T Deluxe ¦¦ 6Gb Corsair Dominator C8 ¦¦ XFX GTX295 ¦¦ 2x 1Tb Samsung F1 ¦¦ 1x Seagate 7200.11 1.5Tb ¦¦ Gigabyte Odin 800W PSU ¦¦ Dell 2405FPW. Last edited by Pookeyhead; 16th Sep 2005 at 23:19.

16th Sep 2005, 23:52	#16
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17th Sep 2005, 01:13	#17
Firehed Why not? I own a domain to match. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: An hour north of Boston Posts: 12,576	Indeed. But let's not get caught up on 9xxx/FX because ATi clearly took that one. But nVidia's won with both 6- and 7-series IMO (6-series is debatable with the x850XT, but not once you throw SLI in, or availability). I can't wait for nVidia's 9-series __________________ hire me @ eric-stern.com - web developer and php ninja pics @ my smugmug :: Twitter @firehed :: blog @ firehed.net 40D\|580EXII\|285HV\|AB800\|70-200f/4LIS\|17-50f/2.8\|150f/2.8Macro\|50f/1.8 MacPro @ 8x2.8GHz, 10GB FBDDR2, 3TB HD :: MBP @ 2x2.2GHz, 4GB DDR2, 320GB HD

17th Sep 2005, 05:39	#19
3.5SE Multimodder Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: NY Posts: 88	Makes me glad I made the switch from ATI to Nvidia. The 9800 pro is a great card by the way - that card held up real well. I'm playing Battlefield 2 with it currently and it plays just fine. Makes me wonder why I bought a 7800 GT - although I haven't played with the 7800 yet - going to be re-building my system in a week or so. It is pretty sad to see what's happened to ATI. But I guess this goes in cycles - ATI in the lead then Nvidia in the lead - back and forth. Would have expected more from ATI but you can't win them all. I honestly don't think it's all that fair to compare SLI systems to non-SLI systems. I like to see 1 card systems vs. 1 card systems. You take a one card ATI solution and then compare it to a much more expensive SLI Nvidia solution - It damn well should be faster for the cost of a second card. When ATI gets their crossfire out then I think you have a fair comparison ATI's crossfire vs. Nvidia's SLI. Let the better solution win. I'm no fan boy of either company - let the best card/solution win. __________________ A8N SLI Prem., X2 3800+, 2GB Corsair PC3200, XFX 7800 GT, Lian Li PCV-2000B Case, Antec True Blue 480watt PSU sleeved, 74 GB WD Raptor HD, 160 GB Maxtor HD, Pioneer A09 DVD Burner, Cendyne 106S Slot Load DVD Drive

17th Sep 2005, 05:44	#20
Froggy I Mod, Therefore I Own Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Eastern NY State Posts: 3,511	OK how is this benchmarks for crossfire when none of the benchmarks are for any card in crossfire? No **** SLI 7800s are faster than a single ATI, i expected that. Alot of posts in here are dissing something we have little info on. Ill wait a few more days till all the REAL benchmarks come out. __________________ <P4 2.8@3.4> <Soyo P4I875P DRAGON 2 Platinum><ATI Radeon X800 Pro><1 Giggy Corsair XMS DDR-466><1290GB Total HDD space><Pioneer 108 DVD Burner><Thermaltake Xaser III Vaccume PC case><Zalman Resernator> 56.80473% - Extreme Geek /me violaes froggy with a taco Temps: 45ºC Idle/Load