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WilHarris · 3rd Oct 2005, 17:15

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2005/10/03/edonkey_quits/

kiljoi · 3rd Oct 2005, 17:23

At this point, nothing surprises me when it comes to the RIAA/MPAA. I'd really love to see them go after someone who has the financial means to fight them tooth and nail. I think that would make for a most entertaining court case.

Firehed · 3rd Oct 2005, 17:48

There have been a couple people fighting back, but just the 12-year-old kid's mom, for the most part. I dont' use eDonkey but I still am NOT happy that this is happening. I'm waiting for them to (try to) shut down iTunes because Steve keeps refusing to raise the price (go Steve!), then they'll be saying "oops, shouldn't have done that one, we were actually making an arseload off it" and something like that COULD actually have enough influence to start a boycott against buying music.

Kipman725 · 3rd Oct 2005, 18:03

by the time wares get onto p2p it's already way too late for the RIAA ect. the only way I can see of them managing to stop this is outlawing owning computer equipment... and cd players.. and tape recorders.

Stompy · 3rd Oct 2005, 18:11

Does this mean the eDonkey network as a whole is going down? Or just the client? Because eMule connects to both the eDonkey and Kad networks...

sui_winbolo · 3rd Oct 2005, 18:24

I hope RIAA get's there asses handed backwards to them in a legal battle.

Da Dego · 3rd Oct 2005, 19:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stompy

Does this mean the eDonkey network as a whole is going down? Or just the client? Because eMule connects to both the eDonkey and Kad networks...

Sorry Stompy, it's the whole network...it'll be P2P now as in "Pay 2 Play"...and a bunch of legal content that you then have to pay further for. :P

atanum141 · 3rd Oct 2005, 20:20

its edonkey as a software being closed down...theres no way they can shud down the network...and also emule and others are open source..so there is no way they can stop development....

LONG LIVE EMULE!!!

kickarse · 3rd Oct 2005, 21:42

The thing is that there is more underground sharing then there is public sharing. It's just the ones that come into the lime light are the ones that get sued. It'll just be harder to find what you want, but as a people we'll still listen to and share the songs we want. In one way or another.

See the problem is that it is technically not illegal yet to share music in a digital form. This is what the RIAA and MPAA are trying to push. As well as what happens to the formats once they leave wherever they originated. Sorta becoming a "adware" or "spyware" company legally. Trying now to push for broadcast flags and encryption.

It's hard because the definitions are scarce and the legality is vague.

In the end, though, some (those who don't care about legal recourse, either knowingly or uknowingly) will do what they want, how they want, when they want.

sui_winbolo · 3rd Oct 2005, 21:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by kickarse

In the end, though, some (those who don't care about legal recourse, either knowingly or uknowingly) will do what they want, how they want, when they want.

Yeah the only way they're going to stop file sharing is if they shutdown the internet.

Da Dego · 3rd Oct 2005, 21:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by atanum141

its edonkey as a software being closed down...theres no way they can shud down the network...and also emule and others are open source..so there is no way they can stop development....

LONG LIVE EMULE!!!

eDonkey is:
the software (client)
the server/routing software
the copyrighted method of transfer that is the eDonkey network.

So, eMule and others are open source, but they'd have to connect to new networks formed outside of eDonkey's server setup. What is currently eDonkey, eMule, etc...will cease to exist. eDonkey will go to be pay service, eMule...who knows?

Stompy · 3rd Oct 2005, 22:08

Well emule also connects to the Kad network...

Skylined · 4th Oct 2005, 23:12

It won't shut, since the eDonkey network is just a file which has the IPs of the servers, and anybody can have a server, and anybody can share files.
They might close the large servers and stop doing "free" versions of eDonkey clients, but the whole eDonkey going down the drain, I don't think so.

3rd Oct 2005, 17:15	#1
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3rd Oct 2005, 18:03	#4
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3rd Oct 2005, 18:11	#5
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3rd Oct 2005, 21:42	#9
kickarse Ultramodder Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Holyoke, MA Posts: 1,281	The thing is that there is more underground sharing then there is public sharing. It's just the ones that come into the lime light are the ones that get sued. It'll just be harder to find what you want, but as a people we'll still listen to and share the songs we want. In one way or another. See the problem is that it is technically not illegal yet to share music in a digital form. This is what the RIAA and MPAA are trying to push. As well as what happens to the formats once they leave wherever they originated. Sorta becoming a "adware" or "spyware" company legally. Trying now to push for broadcast flags and encryption. It's hard because the definitions are scarce and the legality is vague. In the end, though, some (those who don't care about legal recourse, either knowingly or uknowingly) will do what they want, how they want, when they want. __________________ Top 5 Listening to Now - A Second To Last - Dying Against Your Will Rock Kills Kid - Paralyzed Zero State Reflex - I'm Splintering Hot Hot Heat - Middle of No Where - www.nerges.net

3rd Oct 2005, 22:08	#12
Stompy Ultramodder Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Suffolk, England Posts: 1,097	Well emule also connects to the Kad network... __________________ PC (Now out of use): Athlon 64 3000+ Winny \| Asus A8N-SLI \| 1024mb OCZ Premier \| 6600GT 128mb \| 160GB WD \| NEC 3520 DVDRW \| Coolermaster Centurion 530 \| Hiper Type-R 480w Laptop: Dell Studio XPS 13 \| Core 2 Duo P8600 2.4ghz \| 4gb Ram \| GeForce 9500M 256mb \| 320gb 7200rpm \| DVDRW \| 13.3" LED WXGA

4th Oct 2005, 23:12	#13
Skylined I inglish is god Join Date: May 2003 Location: Uruguay Posts: 1,140	It won't shut, since the eDonkey network is just a file which has the IPs of the servers, and anybody can have a server, and anybody can share files. They might close the large servers and stop doing "free" versions of eDonkey clients, but the whole eDonkey going down the drain, I don't think so.