Microsoft paper reveals TrueSkill of gamers - bit-tech.net Forums

WilHarris · 1st Nov 2005, 13:32

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2005/11...ft_true_skill/

Kipman725 · 1st Nov 2005, 16:38

I have a fealing I would be somewhere off on the left hand side..

FIBRE+ · 1st Nov 2005, 16:46

I havent read the paper but the snipits sound good, like this one:

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Players' ranks can be altered within the game by comparing their performance to others around them in the end of game rankings, and then examining how that relates to their rank.

So basically a pr0 on a server full of n00bs wont gain as many 'points' as an itermediate on a server full of pr0s (obviosly them both having the exact same score etc on that particular session)

Sounds good

Totally agree with this comment too:

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All in all, it's fascinating to see just how much work goes into something that most will simply take for granted.

kickarse · 1st Nov 2005, 17:28

errr... interesting...

planki · 1st Nov 2005, 18:57

is it me or does that graph strangely resemble the beginnings of a crudely drawn picture of the male anotomy?

Firehed · 1st Nov 2005, 19:27

it's just you.

Anyways, good idea. pwning n00bs all day long really doesn't mean much, and just as it shouldn't boost my rank as much as pwning pros, it shouldn't knock as much off their rank as being pwned by another n00b.

LoneArchon · 2nd Nov 2005, 02:41

On no more Math. It hurts the head to read after math class. But love the idea of the rankings and the design

I_Slider_I · 7th Nov 2005, 20:03

Interesting rating system. What about a rating system that determines how fast you increase your skill, or your rate of learning and places you into games with other players that have similar learning rates, irregardless of how long they've played, and then switch up things like having a randomized maps and a modify a bit of the game physics and see who really is the best player. (not just who plays the game night and day)

eek · 7th Nov 2005, 23:33

Wow, that's pretty neat. It all makes a lot of sense really.

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Originally Posted by I_Slider_I

having a randomized maps and a modify a bit of the game physics and see who really is the best player. (not just who plays the game night and day)

Random maps? Random physics? I dont really think that would tell you who is the best player, but rather who is the luckiest. Personally I generally do fairly bad on new maps and I feel that part of the learning curve of any game is getting to know both the maps and how the physics of the game works. If a random element was introduced into this then there would be no real way to learn the game and become a skilled player.

A skilled player can use the map and the games engine to their advantage (I'm not talking about exploiting bugs, but rather things like hit boxes and recoil) and by adding randomness it removes some element of skill and replaces it with luck. IMO anyways!!!

1st Nov 2005, 13:32	#1
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I_Slider_I Multimodder Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Park Posts: 88	Interesting rating system. What about a rating system that determines how fast you increase your skill, or your rate of learning and places you into games with other players that have similar learning rates, irregardless of how long they've played, and then switch up things like having a randomized maps and a modify a bit of the game physics and see who really is the best player. (not just who plays the game night and day)