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WilHarris · 4th Nov 2005, 11:00

http://www.bit-tech.net/bits/2005/11..._desk_3/1.html

Kameleon · 4th Nov 2005, 11:09

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In terms of the kind of stereo headphones sought after by audio purists, these clearly aren't in the same league as a set of Bose noise cancelling headphones which retail in the £200-300 range, but they are absolutely perfect for anyone who doesn't require quite that level of sound quality.

Seriously, do a direct comparison between these and the QuietComfort 2s - you won't find anything to warrant the seven/eight-fold price increase. The Bose provide you with about £40 worth of headphone, £100 worth of noise cancelling technology, and £100 worth of marketing.

fishthecat · 4th Nov 2005, 13:56

How about including some pictures taken with the webcam? Then we can see what kind of results it gives.

Edenalig · 4th Nov 2005, 14:14

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Originally Posted by fishthecat

How about including some pictures taken with the webcam? Then we can see what kind of results it gives.

I know where this is going

fishthecat · 4th Nov 2005, 14:16

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Originally Posted by Edenalig

I know where this is going

no it isn't. :P
I think the article should have in it some test piccies, that our boys have taken, to coroborate what they've said in the article about the webcam.

Master Ninja · 4th Nov 2005, 14:23

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Originally Posted by fishthecat

no it isn't. :P
I think the article should have in it some test piccies, that our boys have taken, to coroborate what they've said in the article about the webcam.

Agreed. An infra-red camera doesn't do any good if it's too blurry to make anything out. I wouldn't mind seeing what the image results look like in light and dark settings.

Ab$olut · 4th Nov 2005, 16:41

I like the headphones look really good quality and only £40 too I think I may get some after ive got the rest of the stuff for my pc

Firehed · 4th Nov 2005, 17:24

Agreed. If I ever went to lans, I'd definately pick up those headphones. Especially as they shouldn't require some stupid bloated control panel and aol icons all over my desktop to use them, unlike my dust-collecting audigy2.

Who_me_33 · 4th Nov 2005, 19:36

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Verdict: Does what it says it does, but probably a bit superflulous seeing as it doesn't really tell you anything you couldn't work out when your system doesn't power on.

Yea, but if you had a powersupply that was sus, and didnt want to plug itinto a mobo to try it could be helpful.

Wolfe · 4th Nov 2005, 20:21

"£100 worth of noise cancelling technology" equates to a $.50 microphone, and a $.75 op amp per headphone.

Fozzy · 5th Nov 2005, 02:36

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Originally Posted by Wolfe

"£100 worth of noise cancelling technology" equates to a $.50 microphone, and a $.75 op amp per headphone.

Also a $5 micro chip that translates the noise and you have to pay the people who invented it. The techknowledgy didnt just appear out of thin air.

Kameleon · 5th Nov 2005, 02:49

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Originally Posted by Fozzy

Also a $5 micro chip that translates the noise and you have to pay the people who invented it. The techknowledgy didnt just appear out of thin air.

Indeed. About all I can say for Bose is that they spend a lot of money on development...where I think they've flushed that money is another story

DivineSin · 5th Nov 2005, 02:50

I dont think you can put bose, quiet comfort, sought after, and audio purist's in the same sentence. You can usually find better quality headphones for under 50$ american, granted they wont have 'noise canceling' but you can probably find headphones for under 150 that do better than the bose (never really looked into it, I just know the quality of there cube speakers and box speakers, so why would headphones be any different?).

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Indeed. About all I can say for Bose is that they spend a lot of money on development...where I think they've flushed that money is another story

And i actually dont think they do much development at all, as you may know they screwed over the airline market (Or was it military pilots?), with there 'noise canceling' headphones which were actually worse than the headphones they were using before they switched to bose. I dont quite remember the story as i havnt read it in over a year and a half, but still..better marketing through deception, not development.

Fly · 5th Nov 2005, 12:03

One thing these headphones are brilliant for is showing how loud people have to speak on aircraft to speak over the BG noise. When wearing noise cancelling headphones you can hear about 3 rows of conversations in all directions. Pretty funny initially but after 5 hours on a 8 hour flight pretty damn annoying. lol

cpemma · 5th Nov 2005, 13:56

On the PSU Tester, Antec do one around half the Casebuy price. Not so pretty, but each does apply a suitable load to the psu so a supplementary multimeter check is more realistic.

But as said, they only show the various power lines are doing something, not whether they're doing it to specification.

Emon · 6th Nov 2005, 17:01

No highs, no lows, it must be Bose!

BOSE = Buy Other Sound Equipment

Seriously, Bose is rubbish. Why do I get the feeling that the writer has never tried a Bose product but only assumes they are the best? This is most people's impression of Bose, and it is exactly how Bose makes money.

M_D_K · 6th Nov 2005, 19:37

Is it just me or does anyone else think that webcam is rather cute lol, its an eye on a hand lol reminds me of monsters ink :P. Think i might have too buy one looks funky.

Morgan.

Skaal-tel · 7th Nov 2005, 05:29

Want to test a power supply for free?

take the ATX plug, and then take a twist tie. Insert the bare metal ends of the twist tie into the plug for the green and any black wire. If the power supply turns on and does not smoke/flame/explode - it's good.

Murdoc · 7th Nov 2005, 14:25

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Originally Posted by Skaal-tel

Want to test a power supply for free?

take the ATX plug, and then take a twist tie. Insert the bare metal ends of the twist tie into the plug for the green and any black wire. If the power supply turns on and does not smoke/flame/explode - it's good.

That does indeed say if the supply switches on, but thats all, their may be 24v on the 12v line able to give 500mA when loaded which you wouldn't know anything about.

'doc

jezmck · 8th Nov 2005, 11:02

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Originally Posted by Master Ninja

Agreed. An infra-red camera doesn't do any good if it's too blurry to make anything out. I wouldn't mind seeing what the image results look like in light and dark settings.

I'd really like to see this because I just picked up a handful of IR LEDs with the intention of adding them to my webcam, and want to know if it's worth it.

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Fly inter arma silent leges Moderator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: London, UK Posts: 3,741	One thing these headphones are brilliant for is showing how loud people have to speak on aircraft to speak over the BG noise. When wearing noise cancelling headphones you can hear about 3 rows of conversations in all directions. Pretty funny initially but after 5 hours on a 8 hour flight pretty damn annoying. lol __________________ "Flying is simple; push on the stick and the houses become bigger, pull back on the stick and houses become smaller, unless you keep pulling in which case the houses will become bigger again..." Disce quasi semper victurus; vive quasi cras moriturus.

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cpemma Ecky thump Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: S.Yorkshire, OK Posts: 12,333	On the PSU Tester, Antec do one around half the Casebuy price. Not so pretty, but each does apply a suitable load to the psu so a supplementary multimeter check is more realistic. But as said, they only show the various power lines are doing something, not whether they're doing it to specification. __________________ Nobody's perfect. But being a Yorkshireman is as close as you can get.

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Emon Hypermodder Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 672	No highs, no lows, it must be Bose! BOSE = Buy Other Sound Equipment Seriously, Bose is rubbish. Why do I get the feeling that the writer has never tried a Bose product but only assumes they are the best? This is most people's impression of Bose, and it is exactly how Bose makes money.

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