RSS



Go Back   bit-tech.net Forums > bit-tech.net > Article Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 4th Nov 2005, 13:32   #1
The_Pope
Geoff Richards
Moderator
 
The_Pope's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: UK
Posts: 2,089
The_Pope is on a distinguished road
FireFox share continues to rise

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2005/11...rket_share_up/
The_Pope is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th Nov 2005, 13:53   #2
Reaper_Unreal
Supermodder
 
Reaper_Unreal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Ottawa, Canada
Posts: 380
Reaper_Unreal is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Opera's share has reminded virtually the same over the period.
Don't you mean remained?

But seriously, that doesn't really surprise me much. Opera hasn't changed much in the past few years. Sure, it's free now, but I didn't really like it much. The only reason I used it on my mac was because IE for OS9 was terribly unstable and I really hated Netscape.

Firefox is the only browser I use now. Except for windows update and filling out my timesheet at work. Both of which still use ActiveX.
__________________

If you made a Venn diagram, there would be two non-overlapping circles, one of which was labeled, “Times when I am truly happy” and the other of which was labeled, “Times when I am logged in as root, holding a cable, and have the case open.”
Reaper_Unreal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th Nov 2005, 14:07   #3
Edenalig
Modder
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Birmingham - UK
Posts: 65
Edenalig is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reaper_Unreal

Firefox is the only browser I use now. Except for windows update and filling out my timesheet at work. Both of which still use ActiveX.
Funny thing is I do exactly the same, I just find firefox much more easier to use and more multi tab friendly.
Edenalig is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th Nov 2005, 14:11   #4
HandMadeAndroid
Multimodder
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Newcastle
Posts: 125
HandMadeAndroid is on a distinguished road
I love the tab browsing, I could'nt live without it now. Only thing I seem to have a problem with is linking to my favourites folder, and setting user accounts.
HandMadeAndroid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th Nov 2005, 14:40   #5
BUFF
Hypermodder
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Glasgow
Posts: 912
BUFF is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reaper_Unreal
Opera hasn't changed much in the past few years. Sure, it's free now, but I didn't really like it much.
As an Opera user for several years I would disagree with you (& yes I've tried FF - it's better than IE but I prefer Opera).

1 of the reasons that Opera always shows as a low % is that by default it identifies itself as IE6.
BUFF is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th Nov 2005, 14:49   #6
webbyman
Hax.
 
webbyman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Uk
Posts: 2,758
webbyman is on a distinguished road
firefox for the win, i find i can't browse the internet properly with ie!!!!!! ie is aload of s****t

if i did'nt have firefox i wouldn't be able to browse like i do now, especially speed and convenience. i have upto 100pages open now in about 7 different windows. i don't go over 30 in each browser as theres not enought room to see what it is.
webbyman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th Nov 2005, 16:47   #7
Meanmotion
Supermodder
 
Meanmotion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Bracknell nr. Ascot
Posts: 370
Meanmotion is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by webbyman
i have upto 100pages open now in about 7 different windows. i don't go over 30 in each browser as theres not enought room to see what it is.
WTF!? Why? Can't you RSS most of them, for a start?


and to FF
__________________
Athlon64 X2 4400+ || A8N SLI Premium || 2Gb Corsair XMS Pro || 2*40Gb Raptor (striped) || 250GB External || Radeon X1950Pro || WinXP

www.OutForBlood.co.uk || www.4Qradio.com || www.EdwardChester.co.uk
Meanmotion is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th Nov 2005, 17:16   #8
huFFamOOse
What's a Dremel?
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: UK
Posts: 6
huFFamOOse is on a distinguished road
IMO Opera is the best browser out there. But what do I use? - Firefox, because I'm not too bothered about all the features Opera has. I just want tabbed browsing with a couple of extensions.
huFFamOOse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th Nov 2005, 17:17   #9
Firehed
Why not? I own a domain to match.
 
Firehed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: An hour north of Boston
Posts: 12,576
Firehed has a spectacular aura aboutFirehed has a spectacular aura aboutFirehed has a spectacular aura about
Can't live without tabbed browsing and everything else. Even the download manager. Mouse gestures for the win though, even if they are a seperate extension. And stellar popup blocking (though interestingly enough, I found something in my nvidia driver CP that had a browser popup blocking feature... haven't used IE in quite some time so I have no idea if it works at all though).

TBH I don't see why MS CARES if people use FF over IE, everyone searches with Google anyways. Or is it one of those "the principe of the thing" deals, rather than financial?

Honestly, I've never enjoyed my computing experience more than recently - skinned out everything with windowsblinds (roll-up windows for the win!) on a dual-core for smoothness, with a widescreen LCD because they pwn, and personalized Google in a tabbed browser to centralize all the info I care about. Throw in a randomizer for my backgrounds to scroll through over a hundred that I like by the interval for my choice and surround myself with some THX-certified speakers. In the last month or so, it went back to almost being a whole new thing, and definately back to enjoyable.

And I'll come right out and say it - the only convenice IE EVER brought me was being able to launch from My Computer, which was a quick load. Tabs + widescreen (or tallscreen if I abuse my rotate 90* abilities) = win.
__________________
hire me @ eric-stern.com - web developer and php ninja
pics @ my smugmug :: Twitter @firehed :: blog @ firehed.net
40D|580EXII|285HV|AB800|70-200f/4LIS|17-50f/2.8|150f/2.8Macro|50f/1.8
MacPro @ 8x2.8GHz, 10GB FBDDR2, 3TB HD :: MBP @ 2x2.2GHz, 4GB DDR2, 320GB HD
Firehed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th Nov 2005, 18:34   #10
riggs
^_^
 
riggs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Lincs.
Posts: 1,643
riggs is on a distinguished road
I made the switch just under a year ago...and only beacuse of the tabbed browsing, and built in popup blocker.
The 'Extensions' idea is brilliant, and I just love the fact that it's fully (and easily) skinnable.

The download manager is kinda nice (well, it beats the standard windows one), but I still use GetRight on sites that support it.
Would be good if they could bump-up the download manager a bit (even better if it could resume downloads after a reboot).

...go FF!
__________________
Hell hath no fury like a hippo with a machine gun
PSN ID: buster2006
riggs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th Nov 2005, 18:35   #11
sadffffff
Hypermodder
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: sadffffff
Posts: 676
sadffffff is an unknown quantity at this point
still havent found a reason to use anything but IE. works perfect, fast, stable, does everything i want it to, built into windows, i see no reason to use anything else. firefix came preinstalled on my windows installation at home, i havent used it yet, too lazy to uninstall, maybe i'll find a use for it someday.
sadffffff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th Nov 2005, 20:06   #12
GuardianStorm
Ultramodder
 
GuardianStorm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Bournemouth
Posts: 1,465
GuardianStorm is on a distinguished road
IE = ActiveX + Security holes not fixed since IEv2 = Very Bad
FireFox = open Source + Tabbed Browing + Extentions + Skins + Cool Logo = Very Good

i made the switch about 3 years ago, and have never looked back, i only IE for windows update & my Uni's Academic Alliance Site, which wont work with FireFox

Thunder bird is also for the win
__________________
Sites: My Site :: My blog
Tools: Project Log Previewer
Curent Projects: Dark Vortex
Finished Projects: Yarrrbox :: Laptop Stand :: Bench PSU MK2 :: FS2
Guides: How To Bend Metal
GuardianStorm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th Nov 2005, 20:32   #13
riggs
^_^
 
riggs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Lincs.
Posts: 1,643
riggs is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by GuardianStorm
Thunder bird is also for the win
Aha...forgot about that!

I used to use Eudora, but switched to Thunderbird around the same time I started using Firefox.
__________________
Hell hath no fury like a hippo with a machine gun
PSN ID: buster2006
riggs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th Nov 2005, 21:31   #14
Master Ninja
Multimodder
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Toronto
Posts: 182
Master Ninja is on a distinguished road
It goes something like this: IE uses non-standard HTML and CSS. MS development tools use these IE-only properties automatically. So if 90% of a web developer's audience uses IE, suddenly MS development tools are the fastest way to make pages that reach the most people, and that makes them money. The fact that it won't be standardized is incidental, as MS has enough market share to redefine standards if they really want to.

/derail: What do you use to randomize your desktop? I've been looking for a product that does that.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Firehed
TBH I don't see why MS CARES if people use FF over IE, everyone searches with Google anyways. Or is it one of those "the principe of the thing" deals, rather than financial?
Master Ninja is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th Nov 2005, 22:55   #15
stephen2002
Multimodder
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 182
stephen2002 is on a distinguished road
I've been using Avant Browser, which is basically IE + tabs and a popup blocker. I used FireFox for a few months but found that a lot of pages were sluggish when compaired with IE.

I know people like to say that FireFox is faster but that simply is not true, at least on the Windows platform with my experience. I have an old laptop, 300MHz, that clocks down as low as 75MHz when on battery. FireFox was totally unusable, even scrolling was a pain. IE is slow, but functional. I've switched to Opera on that computer because it loads up pages by far the fastest, mainly because it dosn't wait for the graphics to load before showing you the text.
stephen2002 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th Nov 2005, 22:55   #16
Firehed
Why not? I own a domain to match.
 
Firehed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: An hour north of Boston
Posts: 12,576
Firehed has a spectacular aura aboutFirehed has a spectacular aura aboutFirehed has a spectacular aura about
It's some powertoy for XP... if you can't find it ala google, email me and I'll send you a copy, it's pretty small (and free, like the other MS powertoys. it was hard to find iirc, I don't think it's current anymore). "wallpaper changer powertoy" or something to that effect.
__________________
hire me @ eric-stern.com - web developer and php ninja
pics @ my smugmug :: Twitter @firehed :: blog @ firehed.net
40D|580EXII|285HV|AB800|70-200f/4LIS|17-50f/2.8|150f/2.8Macro|50f/1.8
MacPro @ 8x2.8GHz, 10GB FBDDR2, 3TB HD :: MBP @ 2x2.2GHz, 4GB DDR2, 320GB HD
Firehed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th Nov 2005, 23:05   #17
Deathrow
Supermodder
 
Deathrow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Lancaster, UK
Posts: 517
Deathrow is on a distinguished road
I love Firefox, I keep trying to get my parents to use it on each of their machines but they always moan about it not being secure, even though when i order stuff on my parents credit card I always use Firefox on my machine.

I have seen a few bugs with it though, but im sure Mozilla will iron them out as they go.

Firefox cheesecake!
Deathrow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 5th Nov 2005, 04:07   #18
Firehed
Why not? I own a domain to match.
 
Firehed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: An hour north of Boston
Posts: 12,576
Firehed has a spectacular aura aboutFirehed has a spectacular aura aboutFirehed has a spectacular aura about
Do slap them for me, FF is far more secure than IE ever has been. Frickin' noobs!!111oneonetwofive
__________________
hire me @ eric-stern.com - web developer and php ninja
pics @ my smugmug :: Twitter @firehed :: blog @ firehed.net
40D|580EXII|285HV|AB800|70-200f/4LIS|17-50f/2.8|150f/2.8Macro|50f/1.8
MacPro @ 8x2.8GHz, 10GB FBDDR2, 3TB HD :: MBP @ 2x2.2GHz, 4GB DDR2, 320GB HD
Firehed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 5th Nov 2005, 06:54   #19
Colonel Sanders
Ultramodder
 
Colonel Sanders's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Middle of nowhere(in USA)
Posts: 1,193
Colonel Sanders is on a distinguished road
IE has one advantage over many other browsers- it can display some abesolutley trashy HTML code, most of which is produced by MS frontpage. So long as web-sites refuse to display under firefox simply because I don't have FF set to identify itself as IE or some other stupid reason, Bill will make people think the only way to surf the web is with Windows and IE. It really amazes me that Bill released IE for mac, which in my opinion was just an attempt to say "MS is better than apple, for once!" In the sense that IE on a mac can display trashed web-site written by MS frontpage then IE has done one thing a little better than Apple.

Windows Media Player? It has minimal support for creation of MP3 files, instead Bill trys to make people think they can only convert their music into DRM loaded, poor quality WMA audio files. . . Outhouse Express? It is quite possibly the most common e-mail utility simply because it is bundeled with Windows- if it comes with windows, it either has to be the best thing since sliced bread, or there is no alternative, right? Sadly, those are the opinions of the general public. . .

BTW, I love firefox.

L J
__________________
"Play a Windows CD backwards and hear satanic messages. Thats nothing, play it forwards and it installs Windows."
Colonel Sanders is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 5th Nov 2005, 07:57   #20
Agamer
Supermodder
 
Agamer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: England
Posts: 419
Agamer is on a distinguished road
I also love firefox.

When I first looked at it I considered it to be slow compared to ie. Part of this is a registry tweak that I had preformed increased preformance of loading pages(Which really does work) had incresased ie's speed. When I then looked at firefox a while later I found you coudl od the same for firefox so I am happy!

Now I can't live with out firefox due to it's tabs I have become so acustomed to.

So now I spread the firefox love!
__________________
If you notice this notice you'll notice that it's not worth noticing....
Agamer is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 00:31.
Powered by: vBulletin Version 3
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.