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Tim S · 19th Dec 2005, 19:42

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2005/12/19/tv_online/

Hybr1d · 19th Dec 2005, 19:50

meh, BitTorrent f/t/w/

EDIT: Bigz whats with censoring f.t.w? (without "."s)

Boon · 19th Dec 2005, 19:56

IIRC iMP uses a bittorrent type protocol to share upto 7 day old BBC programs. Sky is also about to introduce a broadband option for live TV viewing which will apparantly be free to premium Sky subscribers.

TheoGeo · 19th Dec 2005, 20:06

doesnt blueyonder have a tv service they've been beta testing?

edit: its now a fully working tv service http://blueyonder.narrowstep.tv/

yodasarmpit · 19th Dec 2005, 20:23

Sky are also releasing "Sky by Broadband" in the coming months.

Firehed · 19th Dec 2005, 20:48

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meh, BitTorrent f/t/w/

EDIT: Bigz whats with censoring f.t.w? (without "."s)

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Good idea, but I'd hate to see it attempted in the states right now, due to tremendously slower net access. Doesn't Japan have 100Mbit for most people, or something to that effect? Good idea, but knowing how most video streams already have forced ads stuck in place, I think I'll keep not watching TV, or on the rare occasion of there being a show I like, downloading it questionably (TV is still a grey area provided your cable/sat/whatever provides the channel it airs on, right? not flat-out illegal like most movies anyways)

specofdust · 19th Dec 2005, 21:19

Maybe all 3 letter acronyms should be starred out

Anyway, this is intresting, on demand is something thats neat and certainly seems like "the way forward" kind of like how flat rate phone calls were with telecomms.

One question though, is do we really want to be tying up our upload bandwidth while we watch stuff? If the cost is reduced as a result of the company not really needing to provide much bandwidth at all then, that'd be intresting, and sure many people would go in for it. But if the customers using their bandwidth for distribution just means the companies get higher profits, well, I'm not so sure people will like that.

Tim S · 20th Dec 2005, 00:20

my question is, what happens to people on 'limited' Internet plans where they only have a certain amount of data transfer per month? They're not going to be able to stream much TV before their allowance runs out - could this be the end of 'limited' internet service plans? I sure hope so.

valium · 20th Dec 2005, 01:04

I honestly can't wait for this to happen to the US and abroad, but if I'm paying I don't want censorship and I don't want commercials.

specofdust · 20th Dec 2005, 01:09

I think it would be. I mean, I doubt Japan has "limited" usage net plans, half the countries on 10MBit/s or faster anyway. I'm pretty sure usage limits will have gone the way of the dinosaurs within a few years even in stone-age Britain.

This does sound very intresting though, maybe the end of TV as we know it, and onto just buying access rights to an entire catalogue of movies and shows to watch as we please, with content being updated more frequently maybe on the more expensive packages. No more channel surfing hopefully

Firehed · 20th Dec 2005, 03:45

Seems as though we're almost approaching a point where advertising just doesn't exist/isn't tolerated. My Firefox nails *everything*, even googleads (though I've whitelisted bit, which does a 'get and hide' so impressions count but I don't see them). I personally won't watch anything with ads anymore. I've given up on TV (though more due to crap programming than advertising), and the first thing I do when I buy a movie is rip a copy of it with 'just the movie' (no ads, no menus, no idiotic antipiracy threats). On the rare occasion I read the paper, I never respond to ads in any way at all. Maybe companies are going to start needing to put together desirable products, for a change, not just stupid crap that n00bs buy.

there'll never be an end to channel surfing though. Perhaps a decent guide, but I wouldn't expect much beyond that.

geek1017 · 20th Dec 2005, 07:48

Well, I can't wait.
I'll have to see if I can get involved in the trial.
Don't know if the University would go with it though.

Of course if I could get P2P to work here at Uni I probably wouldn't bother.

Bindibadgi · 20th Dec 2005, 10:20

I cant wait. TV on demand - watch what you want when you want it is definately the way to go in life. It's why BT works so well for everyone (apart from getting the latest shows without having to wait 6 months over here). If something is "released" at 10pm, then you can download it and watch it whenever you have a spare hour: that's FAR better than the current, crappy, watch it when it's on unless you go out of your way to record it.

Boon · 20th Dec 2005, 10:22

Interesting read. Might give it a try when I get a moment.

19th Dec 2005, 19:42	#1
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19th Dec 2005, 20:06	#4
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19th Dec 2005, 21:19	#7
specofdust Banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Aberdeen, UK, EU Posts: 7,609	Maybe all 3 letter acronyms should be starred out Anyway, this is intresting, on demand is something thats neat and certainly seems like "the way forward" kind of like how flat rate phone calls were with telecomms. One question though, is do we really want to be tying up our upload bandwidth while we watch stuff? If the cost is reduced as a result of the company not really needing to provide much bandwidth at all then, that'd be intresting, and sure many people would go in for it. But if the customers using their bandwidth for distribution just means the companies get higher profits, well, I'm not so sure people will like that. __________________ Like marmite, only no-one hates it Mmm bop!

20th Dec 2005, 00:20	#8
Tim S Pewlius Caesar bit-tech Staff Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Ascot, Berks Posts: 18,021	my question is, what happens to people on 'limited' Internet plans where they only have a certain amount of data transfer per month? They're not going to be able to stream much TV before their allowance runs out - could this be the end of 'limited' internet service plans? I sure hope so. __________________ Tim on Twitter \| Tim's Blog \| Tim's Flickr The bit-tech Blog \| bit-tech on Twitter \| Join the bit-tech & Custom PC folding team (#35947)

19th Dec 2005, 19:50	#2
Hybr1d Bаnned Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 883	meh, BitTorrent f/t/w/ EDIT: Bigz whats with censoring f.t.w? (without "."s)

19th Dec 2005, 19:56	#3
Boon Supermodder Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 271	IIRC iMP uses a bittorrent type protocol to share upto 7 day old BBC programs. Sky is also about to introduce a broadband option for live TV viewing which will apparantly be free to premium Sky subscribers.

20th Dec 2005, 01:04	#9
valium Supermodder Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: USA, TX Posts: 288	I honestly can't wait for this to happen to the US and abroad, but if I'm paying I don't want censorship and I don't want commercials. __________________ V2 - AMD 4400+ x2, Geforce 7800 GTX, 2x512 Corsair PC3200XL, 2x74gb Raptors (Raid 0)

20th Dec 2005, 01:09	#10
specofdust Banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Aberdeen, UK, EU Posts: 7,609	I think it would be. I mean, I doubt Japan has "limited" usage net plans, half the countries on 10MBit/s or faster anyway. I'm pretty sure usage limits will have gone the way of the dinosaurs within a few years even in stone-age Britain. This does sound very intresting though, maybe the end of TV as we know it, and onto just buying access rights to an entire catalogue of movies and shows to watch as we please, with content being updated more frequently maybe on the more expensive packages. No more channel surfing hopefully __________________ Like marmite, only no-one hates it Mmm bop!

20th Dec 2005, 03:45	#11
Firehed Why not? I own a domain to match. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: An hour north of Boston Posts: 12,576	Seems as though we're almost approaching a point where advertising just doesn't exist/isn't tolerated. My Firefox nails everything, even googleads (though I've whitelisted bit, which does a 'get and hide' so impressions count but I don't see them). I personally won't watch anything with ads anymore. I've given up on TV (though more due to crap programming than advertising), and the first thing I do when I buy a movie is rip a copy of it with 'just the movie' (no ads, no menus, no idiotic antipiracy threats). On the rare occasion I read the paper, I never respond to ads in any way at all. Maybe companies are going to start needing to put together desirable products, for a change, not just stupid crap that n00bs buy. there'll never be an end to channel surfing though. Perhaps a decent guide, but I wouldn't expect much beyond that. __________________ hire me @ eric-stern.com - web developer and php ninja pics @ my smugmug :: Twitter @firehed :: blog @ firehed.net 40D\|580EXII\|285HV\|AB800\|70-200f/4LIS\|17-50f/2.8\|150f/2.8Macro\|50f/1.8 MacPro @ 8x2.8GHz, 10GB FBDDR2, 3TB HD :: MBP @ 2x2.2GHz, 4GB DDR2, 320GB HD

20th Dec 2005, 07:48	#12
geek1017 Hypermodder Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Uonuma-Shi, Niigata-ken Posts: 635	Well, I can't wait. I'll have to see if I can get involved in the trial. Don't know if the University would go with it though. Of course if I could get P2P to work here at Uni I probably wouldn't bother. __________________ Thought I'd put something here. Apparently I'm 47.53452% geek I expected more

20th Dec 2005, 10:20	#13
Bindibadgi Richard Swinburne bit-tech Staff Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Omnipwntent Posts: 28,259	I cant wait. TV on demand - watch what you want when you want it is definately the way to go in life. It's why BT works so well for everyone (apart from getting the latest shows without having to wait 6 months over here). If something is "released" at 10pm, then you can download it and watch it whenever you have a spare hour: that's FAR better than the current, crappy, watch it when it's on unless you go out of your way to record it. __________________ Made you look, made you stare, made you clicked this in your underwear! Den of Geek!

20th Dec 2005, 10:22	#14
Boon Supermodder Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 271	Interesting read. Might give it a try when I get a moment.