BT to upgrade to 8Mbit ADSL nationwide - bit-tech.net Forums

The_Pope · 6th Mar 2006, 14:17

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/03...upgrade_8mbps/

Monkey200SX · 6th Mar 2006, 14:35

about bloody time too!!!! i see AOL isnt on the list though, but we are a long way off Korea having a 100MB/s interwebnet connections.

but i think it wont get much faster in this country untill it becomes wifi based as opposed to phone line based, like Korea

BioSniper · 6th Mar 2006, 14:37

Considering NTL has had 10MB for some time now (one of my mates is on it) its about bleeding time!

Also there is rhumor of NTL conducting internal trials of 50MB and 100MB connections to go live by 2007-2008 apparently.

atanum141 · 6th Mar 2006, 15:06

its all good about the faster speeds and its welcoming change to most people 1meg connection. but what about people like me, i live in a surburb of London and yet my isp Pipex has given me flawless service but a few minor hickups. My problem is that my line has probs keeping sync with the modem.Afer numerious calls and lots of changed and actually physcially chaing my phone line and chainging my pci-adsl modem i still have this problem.

Actually i should be on 2meg but that was giving me major probs sooo....these changes dont actually affect me which is a kick in the balls as i want faster speeds.

its just all abit unfair.

fev · 6th Mar 2006, 15:29

6mbit will be quite nice.. don't think i live 500m from the exchange.. might do *pulls up google earth*

MrWillyWonka · 6th Mar 2006, 15:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by atanum141

its all good about the faster speeds and its welcoming change to most people 1meg connection. but what about people like me, i live in a surburb of London and yet my isp Pipex has given me flawless service but a few minor hickups. My problem is that my line has probs keeping sync with the modem.Afer numerious calls and lots of changed and actually physcially chaing my phone line and chainging my pci-adsl modem i still have this problem.

Actually i should be on 2meg but that was giving me major probs sooo....these changes dont actually affect me which is a kick in the balls as i want faster speeds.

its just all abit unfair.

It often depends on how far you are from the exchange, the line quality (anywhere between you and the exchange, and even from the exchange to the network), interference from electrical cables and in the air etc. Unfortuantly some people will have problems, the further from the exchange, the more problematic it can be. If you can't get 2meg, that you are going to be stuck with 1meg as that will be the maximum attainable line rate for you. Having said that though, BT have supposingly increased line stability for the 8meg service, so you might be able to get slightly higher speeds now.

Also, some modems keep in sync with the line better than others, so you might want to get a new router or modem.

I'm fortunate to live quite close to the exchange, I'm supposed to be able to get up to 6.9mbps, I'm not sure whether the speeds will be capped at a static 4mbps, 6mbps and 8mbps or it will be dynamic to the max, which I hope it is!

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Originally Posted by fev

6mbit will be quite nice.. don't think i live 500m from the exchange.. might do *pulls up google earth*

Go to samknows.com, there'll be a map on where your exchange is in relation to your house, from that you can use the map ruler to work out how far you are!

EDIT: After a bit of research, I should be getting LLU in may, which hopefully means I can get 24mbps if an ISP supports my exchange!

fev · 6th Mar 2006, 15:39

i'm just under a mile away from it...

1 mile around 1.6km DAMN AND BLAST

keir · 6th Mar 2006, 15:52

on the BT site, if i put my post code in it says i cant get 2meg only 1meg.
but when i enter my phone number it says i can get 2meg, wich is what im on now.

Is there anyway to find out if your local exchange wil be upgraded to LLU?

The_Pope · 6th Mar 2006, 16:26

I live *next* to my exchange. Seriously - like 30m away. Yet we're limited to 2MBit until this upgrade goes through.

BioSniper: as for 100MBit in 2007 / 2008, you can already get such net connections in Sweden for like $30 a month, I'm told.

BioSniper · 6th Mar 2006, 16:53

I know

I only wish NTL were to price that low, who knows, maybe they will.
I was more pointing out that we should hopefully be getting good speeds here in blighty too in the next year or 2

yodasarmpit · 6th Mar 2006, 17:35

ADSL Max status: RFS date set
ADSL Max enable date: 31 Mar 2006 (Tentative)

quack · 6th Mar 2006, 17:42

Waiting impatiently for the 31st to come! I live very close to my exchange and can get flawless 2Mbps at present, so I am hoping that 8Mbps will be easily obtainable.

BlueDemon · 6th Mar 2006, 17:48

Looks like we're ahead in Belgium: I've had cable with 20mbit down / 1mbit up with no transfer limit for about a year now. It's not cheap though, at 70 euros a month (about 48 £)...

quack · 6th Mar 2006, 17:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by keir

on the BT site, if i put my post code in it says i cant get 2meg only 1meg.
but when i enter my phone number it says i can get 2meg, wich is what im on now.

Is there anyway to find out if your local exchange wil be upgraded to LLU?

Postcodes can cover quite a large area so they're inaccurate as you could be right next to the exchange or right on the edge of the postal area. Using your number is more accurate as BT know exactly where your house is in relation to the exchange and what the line quality is.

IanW · 6th Mar 2006, 18:06

Many moons ago, when I had ISDN removed & replaced with ADSL, I asked the BT engineer how far from the exchange I was.

He told me the line length was approx 985meters, so that should be a nice 6megs at least. The next thing to do is find out which of the 2 upload speeds my ISP is going to give me.

Bladestorm · 6th Mar 2006, 18:06

I'm with Eclipse, they made a point of regrading every customer they had last summer so as to be ready

(it took BT 3 months even then)

riggs · 6th Mar 2006, 18:10

Wootage!

I'm on 2Mb atm, with the following stats:
23db Noise Margin
27db Attenuation
I'm guessing that's in spec for 4Mb...not sure about 8Mb though.

I feel sorry for my dad...he only live a couple of miles away, but he's lives in the first house you come to (down his lane) that isn't on the Louth exchange.
No broadband whatsoever for him...hell, the best he gets is 26k through dialup!

It's all well and good that the vast majority can get 8Mb, but I wish they'd sort out the rural exchanges - not everyone lives in a big town/city you know!

Mafney · 6th Mar 2006, 18:14

I can't wait for the 31st, its going to be a good day I think.

quack · 6th Mar 2006, 18:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladestorm

I'm with Eclipse, they made a point of regrading every customer they had last summer so as to be ready

(it took BT 3 months even then)

I'm with Eclipse too. I actually had my exchange enabled on 31st March 2004, so (almost) exactly 2 years later we're getting a 8Mbps upgrade.

atanum141 · 6th Mar 2006, 18:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWillyWonka

It often depends on how far you are from the exchange, the line quality (anywhere between you and the exchange, and even from the exchange to the network), interference from electrical cables and in the air etc. Unfortuantly some people will have problems, the further from the exchange, the more problematic it can be. If you can't get 2meg, that you are going to be stuck with 1meg as that will be the maximum attainable line rate for you. Having said that though, BT have supposingly increased line stability for the 8meg service, so you might be able to get slightly higher speeds now.

Also, some modems keep in sync with the line better than others, so you might want to get a new router or modem.

I'm fortunate to live quite close to the exchange, I'm supposed to be able to get up to 6.9mbps, I'm not sure whether the speeds will be capped at a static 4mbps, 6mbps and 8mbps or it will be dynamic to the max, which I hope it is!

OMG!!! i live within roughly 1000m of my exchange yet i get these probs?? whats up with that?

Well ive got a new modem on the way curtosy of another forum member. Well i can get 2meg but the problem seem stronger but if ur saying that with 8meg the service will be improved then im willing to give it a try.

It also seems like my area is allready ADSL Max enabled.

6th Mar 2006, 14:17	#1
The_Pope Geoff Richards Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: UK Posts: 2,089	BT to upgrade to 8Mbit ADSL nationwide http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/03...upgrade_8mbps/

6th Mar 2006, 15:06	#4
atanum141 I fapped to your post! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: London Posts: 7,538	its all good about the faster speeds and its welcoming change to most people 1meg connection. but what about people like me, i live in a surburb of London and yet my isp Pipex has given me flawless service but a few minor hickups. My problem is that my line has probs keeping sync with the modem.Afer numerious calls and lots of changed and actually physcially chaing my phone line and chainging my pci-adsl modem i still have this problem. Actually i should be on 2meg but that was giving me major probs sooo....these changes dont actually affect me which is a kick in the balls as i want faster speeds. its just all abit unfair. __________________ Welcome to Thunderdome, B*tch XBL: atanum141

6th Mar 2006, 15:29	#5
fev Corporate Whore Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Tesco - On Beanbag, Games Playing Office Posts: 2,886	6mbit will be quite nice.. don't think i live 500m from the exchange.. might do pulls up google earth __________________ I know what I'm doing... do you? Follow me on Twitter..go on

6th Mar 2006, 15:39	#7
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6th Mar 2006, 15:52	#8
keir S p i t F i r e Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Middlesbrough \| UK Posts: 3,070	on the BT site, if i put my post code in it says i cant get 2meg only 1meg. but when i enter my phone number it says i can get 2meg, wich is what im on now. Is there anyway to find out if your local exchange wil be upgraded to LLU? __________________ Latest project ¦ Project \| Black-SpitFire ¦ 89% still Move house clear out, buy my stuff! 360 Games for sale UV . Silent . waterCooled - AMD 64 X2 4800+ . 2GB DDR400 . DFI SLi-dr . BFG 8800 GTX WC . Audigy2 ZS

6th Mar 2006, 14:35	#2
Monkey200SX Hypermodder Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: England Posts: 604	about bloody time too!!!! i see AOL isnt on the list though, but we are a long way off Korea having a 100MB/s interwebnet connections. but i think it wont get much faster in this country untill it becomes wifi based as opposed to phone line based, like Korea

6th Mar 2006, 14:37	#3
BioSniper I Mod, Therefore I Own Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Somewhere in the south Posts: 3,460	Considering NTL has had 10MB for some time now (one of my mates is on it) its about bleeding time! Also there is rhumor of NTL conducting internal trials of 50MB and 100MB connections to go live by 2007-2008 apparently.

6th Mar 2006, 16:26	#9
The_Pope Geoff Richards Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: UK Posts: 2,089	I live next to my exchange. Seriously - like 30m away. Yet we're limited to 2MBit until this upgrade goes through. BioSniper: as for 100MBit in 2007 / 2008, you can already get such net connections in Sweden for like $30 a month, I'm told.

6th Mar 2006, 16:53	#10
BioSniper I Mod, Therefore I Own Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Somewhere in the south Posts: 3,460	I know I only wish NTL were to price that low, who knows, maybe they will. I was more pointing out that we should hopefully be getting good speeds here in blighty too in the next year or 2

6th Mar 2006, 17:35	#11
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6th Mar 2006, 17:42	#12
quack \o/ Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: England Posts: 5,221	Waiting impatiently for the 31st to come! I live very close to my exchange and can get flawless 2Mbps at present, so I am hoping that 8Mbps will be easily obtainable. __________________ Denying Rights to Music lovers. Denying Rights to Movie lovers.

6th Mar 2006, 17:48	#13
BlueDemon Modder Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Belgium Posts: 58	Looks like we're ahead in Belgium: I've had cable with 20mbit down / 1mbit up with no transfer limit for about a year now. It's not cheap though, at 70 euros a month (about 48 £)... __________________ ..:: Now, and always ::..

6th Mar 2006, 18:06	#15
IanW I am a Dremel Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: N.Wales Posts: 1,607	Many moons ago, when I had ISDN removed & replaced with ADSL, I asked the BT engineer how far from the exchange I was. He told me the line length was approx 985meters, so that should be a nice 6megs at least. The next thing to do is find out which of the 2 upload speeds my ISP is going to give me. __________________ Q6600@3GHz / AC Freezer 7 Pro / Gigabyte EP35-DS3R / 8GB OCZ Platinum PC6400 / EVGA GTX260 SSC / LG DVDR / 9TB HDD / OCZ Modstream 780W / CoolerMaster 590 case / Dell E248WFP / Saitek Eclipse II / Logitech G9 / Ubuntu 9.10-64

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6th Mar 2006, 18:10	#17
riggs ^_^ Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Lincs. Posts: 1,643	Wootage! I'm on 2Mb atm, with the following stats: 23db Noise Margin 27db Attenuation I'm guessing that's in spec for 4Mb...not sure about 8Mb though. I feel sorry for my dad...he only live a couple of miles away, but he's lives in the first house you come to (down his lane) that isn't on the Louth exchange. No broadband whatsoever for him...hell, the best he gets is 26k through dialup! It's all well and good that the vast majority can get 8Mb, but I wish they'd sort out the rural exchanges - not everyone lives in a big town/city you know! __________________ Hell hath no fury like a hippo with a machine gun PSN ID: buster2006

6th Mar 2006, 18:14	#18
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