IE7 will not be integrated into Vista - bit-tech.net Forums

WilHarris · 27th Mar 2006, 12:39

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/03...gration_vista/

dullonien · 27th Mar 2006, 12:49

The thing thats always annoyed me about IE is popups every couple of mins. Firefox does a great job of preventing these, so unless thats changed, it'll still be firefox for me.

I would have completely removed IE from my machine ages ago if it weren't for the few websites i use that require it. For security reasons, sounds like a good move from microsoft to make it less integrated.

Why make outlook integrated, i find it so much easier to open a web page and sign into my hotmail account which i've had for about 6 yrs. I aint changing and i aint using outlook, i dunno how it works lol.

Atomic · 27th Mar 2006, 12:50

So if IE7 isnt being integrated, Id like to know if this mean we will be able to access the Windows Update site through other browsers?

Meanmotion · 27th Mar 2006, 13:08

Sounds like a good plan, except for more integration of outlook express.

As an aside, do you need IE installed to run the IE emulator extension for FF?

MiNiMaL_FuSS · 27th Mar 2006, 13:34

Atomic, theres a plugin for firefox that lets windows-update work fine

go search for it.

Atomic · 27th Mar 2006, 14:02

I know. Im talking about out-of-the-box.

quack · 27th Mar 2006, 14:26

Firefox not FireFox. Bah! (Or Fx for short... NOT FF!)

RotoSequence · 27th Mar 2006, 16:06

Vista downloads updates through a standalone updater program IIRC. Also, the statement that "IE7 will be uninstallable" looks at first glance like its incapable of being installed

plagio · 27th Mar 2006, 16:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atomic

So if IE7 isnt being integrated, Id like to know if this mean we will be able to access the Windows Update site through other browsers?

You can do that already. Just install the IE Tab extension and you will be able to update widows with Firefox.

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I am editing this because I have realized that it has been said already. sorry, my bad.
/eidt

Bindibadgi · 27th Mar 2006, 16:27

I dont like the fact that windows mail is integrated. That'll be a pain in the arse, but i forsee a downfall of MS as a major market player in the future if this comes into play. Indeed, it will be installed as default so people will still use it, as default, but seeing as the internet is now probably becoming such a portal to the world that, like the latest TWiT podcast (47) said: the OS is just becoming the back-end neglected part compared to the browser and websites in future. That's why investing in google makes so much more sense and why MS is running scared.

Atomic · 27th Mar 2006, 17:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by plagio

You can do that already. Just install the IE Tab extension and you will be able to update widows with Firefox.

But its still using IE!!

I ment being able to install firefox and goto windowsupdate.com and for it to work without having to install extensions that call IE files...

Bindibadgi · 27th Mar 2006, 17:52

Auto Patcher XP: XP Patches downloaded via Bit torrent. That way you can keep em and integrate them into an XP disk too.

fargo · 27th Mar 2006, 17:55

IE6 orIE7 I don't trust them their just not secure worthy, I'll take
firefox and be safe.

Firehed · 27th Mar 2006, 18:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atomic

So if IE7 isnt being integrated, Id like to know if this mean we will be able to access the Windows Update site through other browsers?

You don't have to go to the site to get updates... what do you think that tray icon is all about?

Bindi's idea is nice though. Maybe I should give it a try...

Hmm... outlook. Switched to T-bird a while back and haven't looked back. It's built in spam filter is ten times as effective as some other paid software I was trying for OE. As long as it's not integrated into the shell like explorer currently is, I don't care.

The summary on the main page seems a bit, err... off, though. Uninstallable? I think not.

mattyt · 27th Mar 2006, 21:21

As i wrote last week, it's all part of a conspiricy theory to keep crippled or microsoft-ize web applications so that google and all those other web apps stop making people care less about windows!

The new functionality added in terms of technology brings IE7 up to the level that Firefox and others are already at. It's in MS interest not to make it too good or web apps my advance so fast the operating system hardly matters any more.

http://mtcodex.net/archives/contempl...ter_strike.php

customh · 27th Mar 2006, 23:49

IE7 sucks the big one, hope you can uninstall the mail client.

speedfreek · 27th Mar 2006, 23:53

Dont use outlook, dont use IE, dont use most of the windows installed things. They need to thin windows out for people who dont want all that wasted space.

Bbq.of.DooM · 28th Mar 2006, 01:30

What about peop le using browsers other than IE and Firefox? There's still opera

I like the idea. I don't want IE on my computer.

EK-MDi · 28th Mar 2006, 16:26

I for one, can't wait until Windows Vista with IE7 comes out. It doesn't really bother me if it's not integrated as much, although it may mean missing out on features such as direct connection with local Windows apps

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Tulatin · 30th Mar 2006, 07:11

erm... so if there's no web browser integrated with windows, how does your average joe get online when he brings his new piece of oem crap home from the store?

27th Mar 2006, 12:39	#1
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Bindibadgi Richard Swinburne bit-tech Staff Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Omnipwntent Posts: 28,284	I dont like the fact that windows mail is integrated. That'll be a pain in the arse, but i forsee a downfall of MS as a major market player in the future if this comes into play. Indeed, it will be installed as default so people will still use it, as default, but seeing as the internet is now probably becoming such a portal to the world that, like the latest TWiT podcast (47) said: the OS is just becoming the back-end neglected part compared to the browser and websites in future. That's why investing in google makes so much more sense and why MS is running scared. __________________ Made you look, made you stare, made you clicked this in your underwear! Den of Geek!

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27th Mar 2006, 17:55	#13
fargo Multimodder Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: new york,usa Posts: 152	IE6 orIE7 I don't trust them their just not secure worthy, I'll take firefox and be safe.

27th Mar 2006, 21:21	#15
mattyt Minimodder Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: soton Posts: 45	As i wrote last week, it's all part of a conspiricy theory to keep crippled or microsoft-ize web applications so that google and all those other web apps stop making people care less about windows! The new functionality added in terms of technology brings IE7 up to the level that Firefox and others are already at. It's in MS interest not to make it too good or web apps my advance so fast the operating system hardly matters any more. http://mtcodex.net/archives/contempl...ter_strike.php

27th Mar 2006, 23:49	#16
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EK-MDi Multimodder Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 210	I for one, can't wait until Windows Vista with IE7 comes out. It doesn't really bother me if it's not integrated as much, although it may mean missing out on features such as direct connection with local Windows apps .

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