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Old 31st Mar 2006, 13:39   #1
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Tagan launches Quad-SLI power supply at 1.1KW

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Old 31st Mar 2006, 14:40   #2
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But can anyone actually afford to run a system pulling the full 1.1kW for any length of time, say, 10 hours a day for 6 days a week.. thats gonna cost alot to run considering what running a kettle does to the meter when its on (and my kettle is 1.2kW).. :S
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Old 31st Mar 2006, 14:44   #3
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1.1 KW?!? What the hell... I mean, where is this going?!?

I still cannot understand, that people are buying this crap. OK, there are some "enthusiasts", who want to have the best graphics and so on ever. I would prefer, that the component-producers are more aware of less power-consumption, like Intel and AMD happily started going for.

In my oppinion there is no need for better graphics in games unless the games ar still that crappy. I remember times, when we was playing SuperMarioLand over and over again for month, just beacause the game was fun. And this is still what I'm looking for in games: Good gameplay, even if the graphics are not the most realworld ones.
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I NEED POWA!!!!! buti think this is overkill, instead of making a realy fast and realy hot cpu, just do it like intel and make a cooler cpu with a lot of power.

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*imitates doctor brown from back to the future* "1.1 KILLOWATTS!!!!!, 1.1 KILLOWATTS!!!!!, 1.1 KILLOWATTS!!!!!, 1.1 KILLOWATTS!!!!!"
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Old 31st Mar 2006, 15:06   #5
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The packaging will be a leather briefcase! However, seeing as the power supplies will come in at £150+, we'd expect some pretty plush packaging.
You think thats expensive?!? Thats nothing, you should see how much some of PCP&C power supplys cost.

Turbo-Cool 1KW $489.00
That's 281.115263 British pounds!
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1.1 KW?!? What the hell... I mean, where is this going?!?

I still cannot understand, that people are buying this crap. OK, there are some "enthusiasts", who want to have the best graphics and so on ever. I would prefer, that the component-producers are more aware of less power-consumption, like Intel and AMD happily started going for.

In my oppinion there is no need for better graphics in games unless the games ar still that crappy. I remember times, when we was playing SuperMarioLand over and over again for month, just beacause the game was fun. And this is still what I'm looking for in games: Good gameplay, even if the graphics are not the most realworld ones.
Absolutely. And three years from now, a single GPU will outperform a 4 x SLI solution in any case, at less power expenditure.

This reminds me too much of the Voodoo 5 6000. Four processors and its own external PSU to feed it all. That was in 2000 --around the same time the Geforce 2 Ultra came out; a normal size 1 GPU card with rather modest power requirements that was 25% faster; less than a year later came the Geforce 3. The nVidea 6800 in SLI was considered hot stuff (sometimes literally); then the 7800 comes along a year later and proves to be nearly just as fast all on its own, with less than half the power requirement.

Meanwhile, the game play keeps lagging behind...
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Old 31st Mar 2006, 17:15   #7
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buti think this is overkill, instead of making a realy fast and realy hot cpu, just do it like intel and make a cooler cpu with a lot of power.
*cough*

That's just what AMD is doing. And they're doing it right now!
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But can anyone actually afford to run a system pulling the full 1.1kW for any length of time, say, 10 hours a day for 6 days a week.. thats gonna cost alot to run considering what running a kettle does to the meter when its on (and my kettle is 1.2kW).. :S
Well, a KW/hr usually costs about 8p, so if you were to run it on full for 24/7 (unlikely), it will cost nearly £2 a day, that's like £730 a year
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To variations are available, coming in at 900W and 1100W. Bonkers!
Two? :-)



That's crazy, i thought a 600w was overkill.. heh
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PCP&C have had a 1kw PSU for a long time, and prolly better then the targan one too

i dont see why they need 2 transformers, instead of just 1 quality one ...

isnt this brick gonna rip your case open ....
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This thing is way overkill and I want one now! Why? Just because of the sheer jaw dropping look on my mates faces when I tell them my PSU runs @ 1.1KW. Yes it's a ridiculously more than anyone will need but who cares. We don't need leds in our PCS, our windows, our any of the insane stuff, but we still do it. My 2 bits.
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Old 31st Mar 2006, 21:15   #12
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But can anyone actually afford to run a system pulling the full 1.1kW for any length of time, say, 10 hours a day for 6 days a week.. thats gonna cost alot to run considering what running a kettle does to the meter when its on (and my kettle is 1.2kW).. :S
Common misconception. Power supplies only use what power is needed -- whatever power your computer is drawing. It doesn't produce tons of extra power and just throw it into the air when your computer doesn't use it. Just because it's a 1100W PSU doesn't mean it always draws 1100W. That just means that's rated to supply 1100W if it's needed.

Anyway, AFAIK, Dell already have a Quad-SLI machine out, and it doesn't use 1100W of power. Just lots of marketing tbh.
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Common misconception. Power supplies only use what power is needed -- whatever power your computer is drawing. It doesn't produce tons of extra power and just throw it into the air when your computer doesn't use it. Just because it's a 1100W PSU doesn't mean it always draws 1100W. That just means that's rated to supply 1100W if it's needed.

Anyway, AFAIK, Dell already have a Quad-SLI machine out, and it doesn't use 1100W of power. Just lots of marketing tbh.
i was thinking the same thing

however i wasnt certain

...

Ok checking my electronics notes

With a transformer Power in = Power out (im assuming this is idealistic as you get heat loss and such)

so this means your PSU can supply up to 1.1Kw but wont necisarily use it all though
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With a transformer Power in = Power out (im assuming this is idealistic as you get heat loss and such)
In reality with a PSU of this rating, it's a lot worse. If you assume an optimistic efficiency of 85% under full load, it's actually dumping 165 watts of power into the air - more than two single-core Athlon 64s or 30% more than a high-end Intel Smithfield processor.
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1.1KW, and doubtless they'll have the same weak 3 and 5 volt rails as the rest of them do sometimes . It doesn't happen to all of them, but it happens to too many of them. Plus, 1.1KW is stupid, even a quad SLI system ain't realisticly gonna be drawing more then 600W.
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anyone with the kind of cash to throw at a system that will use anywhere near this certainly won't be putting a tagan psu in there imo
the systems that actually use 1kw+ would really have the likes of zippy or PCPnC in there

seeing as its pretty cheap for "1100w" I foresee people getting it just to say "OMG look at my 1100w psu", which is, franky, pretty sad

"dual transformer" sounds like a marketing way of saying "we bolted 2 smaller, cheaper ones together"
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Yeah, all marketing I think. You could probably power two high end pc's with one of those things. The only good thing about it is if they are actually using some good quality transformers then it should be more efficient than the usual rubbish we end up with.
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Maybe, but maybe not. If you want efficiency, buy a Seasonic, over 80% effienciency is about as good as it gets in the PC world, and its not too bad really. But if you sacrifice on quality, then you're going to end up with much lower efficiency.
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It's not the cost that puts me off Quad-SLi in its current state, not that I can afford it, but it's the energy waste.
1.1kWh! That's just something we don't need.
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1.1KW isn't being drawn all the time, however, this thing is wastefull just because its got way more capacity then is neccesary. I don't understand the obsession that exists to have everything as overblown and as massive as need be. Personally, I want everything to be exactly right, and to have very little slack in things. Efficiency > Epeen.
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