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Tim S · 3rd Apr 2006, 11:16

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/04...ady_programme/

BioSniper · 3rd Apr 2006, 11:31

Im not going anywhere near vista untill someone develops some hacks for it to bring back list view and turn off all the stupid menu systems they have in the current iterations of vista, especially if those features make it into retail.

The thing is they say the vista ready CPU's are all 64-bit pretty much from what I can tell, however it seems that there is still 32-bit vista in the makings so I have no idea why they are even bothering with this "vista ready" system stuffs.

Garside · 3rd Apr 2006, 12:12

If Vista will take up more power to run then does that have a knock on effect? Will your computer have less power to give to games?

_DTM2000_ · 3rd Apr 2006, 12:30

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Originally Posted by Garside

If Vista will take up more power to run then does that have a knock on effect? Will your computer have less power to give to games?

Probably. Put it this way, I know someone who's beta testing Vista and he's been supplied with a dual 3.x GHz beast of a rig to test it on and that is apparantely almost too slow to be useable. However, he thinks the main reason for this is that there are no proper sound drivers available yet and the ones he's been supplied knacker everything up. So the situation may change as they improve Vista. We'll have to wait and see.

perplekks45 · 3rd Apr 2006, 12:44

First thought was 'w00t?! My Xp 2600+ ain't Vista-ready?!?!?! Wtf?'...but then I thought screw it as I won't use Vista anyways. Goddamnit why the hell should I use it?
There are no advantages over XP to be seen at the moment. It's not faster, it's not more stable (btw XP is the most stable Windows of all times...IF configured right), it's not more secure and it's not more beautiful. What would make me buy it?
Well, I will give it a try if I get it for free at my university just like they do with XP but if not... get the hell away from me you hardware-eating next-gen OS with no next-gen application in the making except DX10.

Cthippo · 3rd Apr 2006, 12:45

WTF is a "Blue Peter"? Anything like blueballs???

kosch · 3rd Apr 2006, 12:47

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Originally Posted by Cthippo

WTF is a "Blue Peter"? Anything like blueballs???

http://www.bbc.co.uk/cbbc/bluepeter/

Its a british thing.

Its kinda like an RFID tag for kids that gets em into special places

Tim S · 3rd Apr 2006, 12:52

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Originally Posted by Cthippo

WTF is a "Blue Peter"? Anything like blueballs???

sorry, I should have included a link for our American friends... will do that now

In simple terms, if you've got a Blue Peter badge, you're able to get into some places cheaper/for free and get some good benefits. It was one of those things that kids in my era used to be jealous about. (cue: OMG, you've got a Blue Peter badge!!11ONE).

A Vista Ready badge, on the other hand, doesn't really give you many benefits as it just means you can run the stripped down version of the OS without the graphical user interface.

DreamTheEndless · 3rd Apr 2006, 12:58

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Originally Posted by Garside

If Vista will take up more power to run then does that have a knock on effect? Will your computer have less power to give to games?

Of course.

msft is teh sux0r

ch424 · 3rd Apr 2006, 13:00

WTF does it matter? The only people who'll put that sticker on thier boxes are cheap crappy brands like Advent and Tiny. The "Designed For Windows Vista" (look at any Dell and it has one for XP) will be the sticker to look for: for XP, this is a very strict test, specifying that the computer must boot in under 30 seconds (that means ready to use 30 secs after pressing the power button) and all the drivers must be signed etc. HP, Dell and all the good big manufacturers will surely use a "designed for" sticker that hasn't been disclosed yet.

And aon`aTv.gsus666, you're just plain wrong mate. Vista will use twice the RAM XP does. That's what, five years later? Compared to Moore's law, that's no problem at all. "It's not more secure" wtf? Where did you pull that from?

I'm gonna upgrade to vista as soon as I can afford it.

ch424

Stompy · 3rd Apr 2006, 13:01

I've got a blue peter badge

Bindibadgi · 3rd Apr 2006, 13:20

It's 2001 all over again. People complained XP was slow, bad drivers, no point in upgrading from 98 because games would run slower, yet, look where we are now.

Literally the only reason I will run Vista is for Glass.

<A88> · 3rd Apr 2006, 13:20

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Originally Posted by aon`aTv.gsus666

First thought was 'w00t?! My Xp 2600+ ain't Vista-ready?!?!?! Wtf?'...but then I thought screw it as I won't use Vista anyways. Goddamnit why the hell should I use it?
There are no advantages over XP to be seen at the moment. It's not faster, it's not more stable (btw XP is the most stable Windows of all times...IF configured right), it's not more secure and it's not more beautiful. What would make me buy it?
Well, I will give it a try if I get it for free at my university just like they do with XP but if not... get the hell away from me you hardware-eating next-gen OS with no next-gen application in the making except DX10.

Yes you're sooo right, Microsoft are blatently just releasing the same OS again but with DX10 support.

Hope you find something on here that'll convince you.

<A88>

Krikkit · 3rd Apr 2006, 13:28

It's just the same as when XP came out. Don't rush out and buy it immediately, wait until there's widespread driver and hardware support, as well as a patch for all the usual security bugs etc.

DreamTheEndless · 3rd Apr 2006, 13:36

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Originally Posted by Bindibadgi

...Literally the only reason I will run Vista is for Glass.

buy a mac

Bindibadgi · 3rd Apr 2006, 13:43

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Originally Posted by DreamTheEndless

buy a mac

I enjoy playing games and having a PC I can overclock and upgrade. Not the "Barbie" of the PC world. IE: Looks pretty, there's only so much you can do with it and girls love em.

quack · 3rd Apr 2006, 13:54

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Originally Posted by bigz

In simple terms, if you've got a Blue Peter badge, you're able to get into some places cheaper/for free and get some good benefits.

Except you can't. Not after people were selling fake ones on eBay.

Boswell · 3rd Apr 2006, 14:19

im here with ch424, aon`aTv.gsus666 you couldn't be more wrong...

1) Yes it is a lot faster
2) of course its not more stable at the moment... its not even up for sale yet duhhh... its still in beta testing.
3) "btw XP is the most stable Windows of all times...IF configured right" - what does that mean - configure what exactly - the bios? thats your hardware configuration.
4) not more secure - er what!? - 1) still in beta testing 2) buy/download a firewall/anti virus scanner
5) "it's not more beautiful" - looks pretty damm good to me if not you can always change its skin (within 1 month~ from release - most likely)
6) Some people...

[Jonny] · 3rd Apr 2006, 14:41

I'm going to be switching to ubuntu rather than Vista.

I just tried the latest live cd (dapper flight 6) and it's oh so pretty, and even the wireless worked straight out of the box!

BioSniper · 3rd Apr 2006, 14:48

Personally though i've always hated skins so there is no valid reason for me to want vista. I feel all the "pretty" stuff just gets in the goddamn way. Sure it can be turned off but still, they removed my list view damn it.

Sure, it will be probably as stable as XP (which I think is pretty good), with the possibility of explorer not being at the core of the OS making it more secure sounds good, but I would have to say the sole reason to get it is DX10, which is not why I want to be buying a new OS.

I still feel that Vista is actually too over-complicated for long-time windows users as everything has moved around, there are stupid menus you cant remove, list view is gone (you can tell this is a pet hate) oh, did I mention, stupid menus?
Why change such core functionality of a system that people have come to know and love?

At the end of the day "Vista ready" badges dont stop the OS being a steaming pile of...

3rd Apr 2006, 11:16	#1
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3rd Apr 2006, 11:31	#2
BioSniper I Mod, Therefore I Own Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Somewhere in the south Posts: 3,462	Im not going anywhere near vista untill someone develops some hacks for it to bring back list view and turn off all the stupid menu systems they have in the current iterations of vista, especially if those features make it into retail. The thing is they say the vista ready CPU's are all 64-bit pretty much from what I can tell, however it seems that there is still 32-bit vista in the makings so I have no idea why they are even bothering with this "vista ready" system stuffs. __________________ My Flickr :: Bit-tech Flickr Wii: 1792 1527 2926 7945 :: Xbox Live: BioSnipr :: PSN: Biosnipr

3rd Apr 2006, 12:44	#5
perplekks45 BSc... finally Join Date: May 2004 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,353	First thought was 'w00t?! My Xp 2600+ ain't Vista-ready?!?!?! Wtf?'...but then I thought screw it as I won't use Vista anyways. Goddamnit why the hell should I use it? There are no advantages over XP to be seen at the moment. It's not faster, it's not more stable (btw XP is the most stable Windows of all times...IF configured right), it's not more secure and it's not more beautiful. What would make me buy it? Well, I will give it a try if I get it for free at my university just like they do with XP but if not... get the hell away from me you hardware-eating next-gen OS with no next-gen application in the making except DX10. __________________ "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far." Blame it on Cheaps! [now a social group]

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3rd Apr 2006, 12:12	#3
Garside Supermodder Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: London Posts: 395	If Vista will take up more power to run then does that have a knock on effect? Will your computer have less power to give to games?

3rd Apr 2006, 13:00	#10
ch424 Design Warrior Join Date: May 2004 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 2,513	WTF does it matter? The only people who'll put that sticker on thier boxes are cheap crappy brands like Advent and Tiny. The "Designed For Windows Vista" (look at any Dell and it has one for XP) will be the sticker to look for: for XP, this is a very strict test, specifying that the computer must boot in under 30 seconds (that means ready to use 30 secs after pressing the power button) and all the drivers must be signed etc. HP, Dell and all the good big manufacturers will surely use a "designed for" sticker that hasn't been disclosed yet. And aon`aTv.gsus666, you're just plain wrong mate. Vista will use twice the RAM XP does. That's what, five years later? Compared to Moore's law, that's no problem at all. "It's not more secure" wtf? Where did you pull that from? I'm gonna upgrade to vista as soon as I can afford it. ch424

3rd Apr 2006, 13:20	#12
Bindibadgi Richard Swinburne bit-tech Staff Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Omnipwntent Posts: 28,286	It's 2001 all over again. People complained XP was slow, bad drivers, no point in upgrading from 98 because games would run slower, yet, look where we are now. Literally the only reason I will run Vista is for Glass. __________________ Made you look, made you stare, made you clicked this in your underwear! Den of Geek!

3rd Apr 2006, 13:28	#14
Krikkit Don't panic! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Lancs, UK Posts: 15,209	It's just the same as when XP came out. Don't rush out and buy it immediately, wait until there's widespread driver and hardware support, as well as a patch for all the usual security bugs etc. __________________ \|E8400 @ 4.4GHz\|WC: 2*120.1 GT's, MCP350, Storm G5\|4GB Dominators\|DFI LT X48-T2R\|8800GT\|74GB Raptor\|Chieftec BA01\|OCZ ModXStream 600W\|Dell 2208WFP\| The Good, The Bad, The Ugly, The LOL!!1!!1!, The Zlad!, The Kempness, The Braaaaaains...

3rd Apr 2006, 14:19	#18
Boswell Eddy-B Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bristol, England Posts: 941	im here with ch424, aon`aTv.gsus666 you couldn't be more wrong... 1) Yes it is a lot faster 2) of course its not more stable at the moment... its not even up for sale yet duhhh... its still in beta testing. 3) "btw XP is the most stable Windows of all times...IF configured right" - what does that mean - configure what exactly - the bios? thats your hardware configuration. 4) not more secure - er what!? - 1) still in beta testing 2) buy/download a firewall/anti virus scanner 5) "it's not more beautiful" - looks pretty damm good to me if not you can always change its skin (within 1 month~ from release - most likely) 6) Some people... __________________ \|\|Q6400@3.6Ghz\|8800GT\|4GB Ram\|2TB\|\|

3rd Apr 2006, 14:41	#19
[Jonny] Supermodder Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Wales Posts: 296	I'm going to be switching to ubuntu rather than Vista. I just tried the latest live cd (dapper flight 6) and it's oh so pretty, and even the wireless worked straight out of the box!

3rd Apr 2006, 14:48	#20
BioSniper I Mod, Therefore I Own Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Somewhere in the south Posts: 3,462	Personally though i've always hated skins so there is no valid reason for me to want vista. I feel all the "pretty" stuff just gets in the goddamn way. Sure it can be turned off but still, they removed my list view damn it. Sure, it will be probably as stable as XP (which I think is pretty good), with the possibility of explorer not being at the core of the OS making it more secure sounds good, but I would have to say the sole reason to get it is DX10, which is not why I want to be buying a new OS. I still feel that Vista is actually too over-complicated for long-time windows users as everything has moved around, there are stupid menus you cant remove, list view is gone (you can tell this is a pet hate) oh, did I mention, stupid menus? Why change such core functionality of a system that people have come to know and love? At the end of the day "Vista ready" badges dont stop the OS being a steaming pile of... __________________ My Flickr :: Bit-tech Flickr Wii: 1792 1527 2926 7945 :: Xbox Live: BioSnipr :: PSN: Biosnipr