British hacker might face extradition to Guantanamo - bit-tech.net Forums

WilHarris · 14th Apr 2006, 15:32

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/04...on_guantanamo/

DaSuperFly · 14th Apr 2006, 16:06

He's not a terrorist but he should do some time for hacking.

Shadow_101 · 14th Apr 2006, 16:37

4 Year UK Sentence - Then snapped up by a security firm.

simosaurus · 14th Apr 2006, 16:41

yep

scq · 14th Apr 2006, 16:59

I'd allow him to plead insanity...

pman · 14th Apr 2006, 17:09

he's a talented chap with no common sense (mad).

boggsi · 14th Apr 2006, 17:12

No way should he extradited. If he has genuine links to these terrorists, that should be proved, then hand him over.

theevilelephant · 14th Apr 2006, 17:30

4 year sentance in uk.

EK-MDi · 14th Apr 2006, 17:39

This guy deserves everything that he gets.

Nexxo · 14th Apr 2006, 17:46

I'm sure he does, but we still deal with crime within a legal framework. Guantanamo Bay is an illegal detention center. Handing him over to them would be no different than handing him over to a dictatorship to be executed without trial.

Spaced_invader · 14th Apr 2006, 17:46

if the US government does not provide conclusive and concrete evidence of terorist activities then he should not face extradiction, 4 years is a fair sentence. And i'd like to see how they came accross that huge figure, i mean seems like an awfull lot of money, and what do they mean by inoperable, what happened for that system to be inoperable. Not really getting the full story here are we.

crazydeep74 · 14th Apr 2006, 18:23

I think the goverment is just playing this up, so it focusses everyones attention away from the fact that the goverment is easyer to hack into then they thought. I think 4 yeas if fair.

FredsFriend · 14th Apr 2006, 18:23

I always thought that crimes were punished under the legal system they were perpetrated in, he was in the UK when he was hacking so surely a UK court should hear his crimes

mattthegamer463 · 14th Apr 2006, 18:44

I think he deserves being handed over to the US just for not getting alien craft pictures because they "were too large to download." NO EXCUSE! He could have had evidence proving the biggest cover-up in history (if the pictures did actually exist and were real and legitimate.)

Confused Fishcake · 14th Apr 2006, 19:16

4 years, guantanimo is just such an evil place.

DXR_13KE · 14th Apr 2006, 19:58

The terrorist in this story is the USA, the guy must be trialed in the country were the crime was comited,
but... mr. Tony B. has George B. hand up his ass so deep that if mr Bush moves his middle finger up and down, mr Tony B. will say yes.

The USA dominates over all countries in the world, period.
if not how do they have a prison in Guantanamo, in CUBA, a comunist country?
and how do they torture prisioners without the UN screaming FOUL!!!?

4 years in the UK, but that will not happen.

Risky · 14th Apr 2006, 20:38

I think maybe his defense might be thowing up Guantanamo to confuse the situation. However I can't see why he couldn't be extridited to the US under the standard legal process if he's broken the law.

speedfreek · 14th Apr 2006, 20:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow_101

4 Year UK Sentence - Then snapped up by a security firm.

Wouldnt doubt the second part, he dosent deserve the Guantanamo treatment.

CountStiltzkin · 14th Apr 2006, 20:55

It's quite cool that he managed to get into their systems...bummer for him that he got caught though. Seventy years in guantanamo is ridiculous and to be honest four years in the UK seems a little excessive. Just take his computer off him and watch him suffer.

EvilRusk · 14th Apr 2006, 23:59

Sadly I agree with the Tony "puppet" Blair comment. The truth is the US security services and the government looked pretty bad after 9/11 especially in light of the investigations into the failings to predict the events. This is another way for them to divert attention from themselves and pass it onto some other poor soul.

If we cant send murderers and hijackers to their middle eastern country of origin (remember that hijacked plane at stanstead a few years back where the hijackers were given assylum?) then I don't see why we should send this guy to America.

14th Apr 2006, 15:32	#1
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14th Apr 2006, 17:46	#10
Nexxo ...like a geek! Moderator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Birmingham, UK Posts: 15,092	I'm sure he does, but we still deal with crime within a legal framework. Guantanamo Bay is an illegal detention center. Handing him over to them would be no different than handing him over to a dictatorship to be executed without trial. __________________ "You actually hope to achieve your ideals, I just use mine as an excuse to hate everything" --specofdust "There is no Real Life, only Away From Keyboard" --gpw111 "...my wife says I can't have any trolls, cause they argue with the dog and eat the fish" --KayinBlack

14th Apr 2006, 16:06	#2
DaSuperFly Tsuyoi Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: West Wales / London Posts: 1,010	He's not a terrorist but he should do some time for hacking.

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scq Hypermodder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 783	I'd allow him to plead insanity...

14th Apr 2006, 17:12	#7
boggsi Multimodder Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 105	No way should he extradited. If he has genuine links to these terrorists, that should be proved, then hand him over.

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theevilelephant Bit-tech's Heffalump Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Aberystwyth Posts: 796	4 year sentance in uk.

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EK-MDi Multimodder Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 210	This guy deserves everything that he gets.

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Spaced_invader Supermodder Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: UK Posts: 493	if the US government does not provide conclusive and concrete evidence of terorist activities then he should not face extradiction, 4 years is a fair sentence. And i'd like to see how they came accross that huge figure, i mean seems like an awfull lot of money, and what do they mean by inoperable, what happened for that system to be inoperable. Not really getting the full story here are we. __________________ email me: echo "'1+&9#1)+/6@)0#+/.%20" \| tr "#--/-=" a-z those that should know, know...

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crazydeep74 Hypermodder Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 761	I think the goverment is just playing this up, so it focusses everyones attention away from the fact that the goverment is easyer to hack into then they thought. I think 4 yeas if fair.

14th Apr 2006, 18:23	#13
FredsFriend Supermodder Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Peadobrough Posts: 485	I always thought that crimes were punished under the legal system they were perpetrated in, he was in the UK when he was hacking so surely a UK court should hear his crimes __________________ BOO

14th Apr 2006, 18:44	#14
mattthegamer463 Mod Master Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,805	I think he deserves being handed over to the US just for not getting alien craft pictures because they "were too large to download." NO EXCUSE! He could have had evidence proving the biggest cover-up in history (if the pictures did actually exist and were real and legitimate.) __________________ Latest Work: Boombox Build Project PCB- Complete Digital Picture Frame 2.0- Complete RumbleMouse - Complete Latest Project: TestPC- Complete Lian-Li PC7: C2D E6600, XFX 8800GTS 640MB, Corsair 2GB PC6400, 320GB Seagate Barracuda, EVGA 680i SLi, OCZ 850W

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Confused Fishcake Hypermodder Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Hertford, UK Posts: 684	4 years, guantanimo is just such an evil place. __________________ My Laptop: Inspiron 1501: Turion64 X2 TL-52 @ 1.6GHz, 1GB DDR2, 120GB SATA HD, 256Mb ATI 1150, 15.4" widescreen lcd, 8x DVD+/-RW, running Gentoo amd64. My Server #1: Pentium III @ 500MHz, 192MB DDR, 290GB in total, running headless Gentoo x86. My Server #2: Athlon 4 @ 1.7 GHz, 128MB DDR, 40GB, running headless Gentoo x86.

14th Apr 2006, 19:58	#16
DXR_13KE Madeira's banana is the best!!! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Madeira ; Portugal Posts: 6,466	The terrorist in this story is the USA, the guy must be trialed in the country were the crime was comited, but... mr. Tony B. has George B. hand up his ass so deep that if mr Bush moves his middle finger up and down, mr Tony B. will say yes. The USA dominates over all countries in the world, period. if not how do they have a prison in Guantanamo, in CUBA, a comunist country? and how do they torture prisioners without the UN screaming FOUL!!!? 4 years in the UK, but that will not happen. __________________ *Renegade X - 0.40 Release!* <---- CLICK!

14th Apr 2006, 20:38	#17
Risky Mod Master Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Wiltshire....for a few days more Posts: 2,276	I think maybe his defense might be thowing up Guantanamo to confuse the situation. However I can't see why he couldn't be extridited to the US under the standard legal process if he's broken the law. __________________ As a rule watercooling can be simple, affordable and effective... I guess I just like to break the rules.

14th Apr 2006, 20:55	#19
CountStiltzkin Modder Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: N. Wales, UK Posts: 57	It's quite cool that he managed to get into their systems...bummer for him that he got caught though. Seventy years in guantanamo is ridiculous and to be honest four years in the UK seems a little excessive. Just take his computer off him and watch him suffer.

14th Apr 2006, 23:59	#20
EvilRusk 69 Dude!! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Arrg Yarrg Posts: 69	Sadly I agree with the Tony "puppet" Blair comment. The truth is the US security services and the government looked pretty bad after 9/11 especially in light of the investigations into the failings to predict the events. This is another way for them to divert attention from themselves and pass it onto some other poor soul. If we cant send murderers and hijackers to their middle eastern country of origin (remember that hijacked plane at stanstead a few years back where the hijackers were given assylum?) then I don't see why we should send this guy to America.