News Net usage down post Pirate Bay

[Tim S]

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/06...ost_PirateBay/

[P2D]

Wow, You wouldnt have thought it would create that much impact taking down one website, but as you say they'll be back up in a few days so isnt it pointless taking it down in the first place?

[RotoSequence]

Blame the RIAA for this tbh. But honestly, seeing how much net traffic drops just by taking down a torrent connection site, you can see just how much of people's high speed connections are going towards what purposes.

And you guys wonder how I can survive on dialup.

[Cavedweller]

Wasn't there some reseach that claimed more that one third of internet traffic was used by torrent recently?

[DXR_13KE]

wow!!! what an impact!!! now the RIAA are thinking "how can we make a profit out of this?" and then a random idiot shouts out "I know, why dont we f*** everyone again so they will stop downloading and start buying that amount of data on albums and dvds and games".

math:

5 Gb a second? 300 Gb in a minute 18000Gb in a hour 432000Gb in a day 12960000 Gb in a month and 157680000 Gb in a year

and 8Gb=1GB so:

0,625 GB a second 37,5 GB in a minute 2250GB in a hour 54000GB in a day 1620000 GB in a month and 19710000 GB in a year

holy molly, imagine this amount of data in money worth that companies are "loosing"

if a music cd costs about 15€ and a MP3 album is about 125MB = 0,125GB

19710000GB = 157680000 mp3 albums = 2 365 200 000€ = 1 110 228 456£

if all "pirated" internet traffic is music

i hope my math is right

[Fusen]

erm, it wasnt all just thepiratebay,s traffic

the server farm that was raided took all 160-+ servers, the drop in the bandwidth usage was from ALL the servers taken

sites like istheshit.net is hugely popular too, so don't put it all just down to tpb

[Swafeman]

In Unrelated news..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/5041848.stm

[Da Dego]

Originally Posted by DXR_13KE

5 Gb a second? 300 Gb in a minute 18000Gb in a hour 432000Gb in a day 12960000 Gb in a month and 157680000 Gb in a year
and 8Gb=1GB so:
0,625 GB a second 37,5 GB in a minute 2250GB in a hour 54000GB in a day 1620000 GB in a month and 19710000 GB in a year
holy molly, imagine this amount of data in money worth that companies are "loosing"
if a music cd costs about 15€ and a MP3 album is about 125MB = 0,125GB
19710000GB = 157680000 mp3 albums = 2 365 200 000€ = 1 110 228 456£
if all "pirated" internet traffic is music
i hope my math is right

Thanks DXR...you just made their next case for them.

Of course, the worst part is you're right. EVERYTHING that is flowing from all the swedish servers will be assumed by those two organizations to be THEIR pirated property. It won't matter that 160 servers were taken down, many hosting legitimate and popular sites. It won't matter that even a decent portion of what IS torrented through TPB is not RIAA/MPAA property (come on, at least a portion of that is games, TV shows, software...and a large chunk will include porn).

What will stand in the minds of those simple fools is exactly the math you quoted above..."Hey, look at that dip in traffic...that means pirating contributes to over $1 billion in losses for us! Let's make an ad campaign and get a few lobbyists to spread the word!"

Simple minds, simple math, simple solutions....simply stupid.

[olly_lewis]

Originally Posted by Swafeman

In Unrelated news..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/5041848.stm

Score one for the good guy's!

[Firehed]

Originally Posted by Da Dego

Simple minds, simple math, simple solutions....simply stupid.

Good point.

Consider that your 100MB mp3 album takes up about 350MB in flac or other lossless form, yet has the same value (well, say $10 for any mp3 album, retail cost for flac). Games will often take up almost a full DVD, that cost $45 on average. Movies, naturally, take up a full DVD (4.7GB), but cost only $20ish at retail. 10x the filesize, maybe 1.5x the cost. XP Pro fits on a single CD, but costs $300 at retail. In short, there's absolutely no good way to assume an even vaguely accurate loss for the *entire* pirated industry.

Consider that not just Swedes pirate, and that p2p traffic generated from a 6kb .torrent could generate 8 gigs of traffic that never goes within a thousand miles of Sweden.

Still, quite impressive.

[cyrilthefish]

I don't post very often, but this story caught me has being extremely unusual..

How exactly can a bittorrent tracker site use such extreme amounts of bandwidth? like 99% of the actual P2P traffic only flows between clients, it's minimal data to the tracker and back :S
(percentage made up on the fly, but i've hosted a tracker on my home network before, and the tracker with ~100 clients struggled to even register on a bandwidth meter: less than 0.5kb/sec)

Like other people suggested, it's probably the loss of the other servers that account for a lot of the traffic

[plagio]

Looks like the piratebay is back online.

[DXR_13KE]

i advise all users to be carefull, this can e a trap from their police to get your IPs, as what happened to razorback.

[quack]

It's now based in the Netherlands.

[Kipman725]

There up again this is great as I had several totaly legal torrents downloading from there traker when they went down.

I hope the pirate bay stays up for a long time there providing a great service and not just for those interested in films shown in cinimas.

[Baz]

Can't stop the signal it would seem....

[DXR_13KE]

i found this around:

http://p2pnet.net/story/4228

talking about the hacking of the Swedish anti-p2p site.

[specofdust]

Originally Posted by DXR_13KE

i advise all users to be carefull, this can e a trap from their police to get your IPs, as what happened to razorback.

Well, while thats a good point. Everyone should be using PeerGuardian2, so then none of those sorts of things should be an issue.

[yahooadam]

umm, is it just me, but doesnt the piratebay just host the torrents

thus, with a torent being about .3mb .... that would be alot more data, beacause the torrents link to the acual files

Is this just me also, all those servers arent just thepiratebay ... so .....

[quack]

TPB hosts .torrent files and runs a few trackers. Without TPB to point people at downloads, you can't download, thus the overall traffic drops.