News Ubuntu version 6.06 hits the web

[WilHarris]

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/06..._hits_the_web/

[TheoGeo]

i've wanted to switch to linux for a long time, except i cant since it doesnt support any of the programs i use for uni work and also doesnt have many games portable to it, so i'd still have to keep windows, in which case why have linux?

Ubuntu does seem to be the most widely advertised linux i've seen, lets hope it takes off so software developers start taking it more seriously.

[monkeyville]

and software designed to make purchasing and installing third party products as well. (Such as VMWare)

Originally Posted by Quack

If you're using VMware, be careful with trying install the VMware tools. They don't work properly with this release of Ubuntu. You may end up crippling your installation if you don't implement a workaround posted on the VMware support forums.

[Lazlow]

Originally Posted by article

The server version even includes a mechanism to install a standardized, certified, and supported LAMP (Linux, Apache, MySQL and PHP) server with a single command, not to mention the fact that the Ubuntu server platform has been certified for IBM's DB2 and MySQL.

I've got a version of UBUNTU sitting at home, but never found a use for it and immediately un-installed it. But reading that has made me want to try this new version out. Should take all the hassle out of setting up a webserver, purely for fun.

[lepre]

i've installed it yesterday. all went right, the installation from the live cd is quite nice, and fast. i didn't like the partitioning program, it's very ambigous, and make it a risk to work on a single hd like me. (anyway just after it worked i made a backup)
it's working...but i don't find it very usable, like all other linux distros. these days i also installed suse 10.1 and vlos to try out xgl.

i think the biggest problem now are application GUIs, i don't like them at all. maybe free skilled programmer don't understand that, at the end, the user doesn't matter if he did an uberskilled c/c++/java/etc function. what he see is the GUI and how it works/look. and it doesn't very good!

maybe there are small things...but that's what is important too me that makes the system really user friendly!
microsoft give real strong support to the developer for it's platform, that's why windows have lots of apps working good without compromise.

p.s.: you could point that lots of linux apps are avaiable for windows too, at least the most famous, and them are the same on both systems. That's why i don't use them...but firefox and thunderbird.

[konsta]

For me - any benefit that it could give me is totally negated by the need to reformat 5 hard drives out of NTFS, playing musical chairs with all the data for days on end. Also, from the quick looks that I have taken over the interface - my window blinds skinned windows is far more attractive and discrete, which is important for something that I look at for hours a day.

[Cthippo]

Their server is hammered, can't even get a response from the download server. Annoying, but I think this is a good sign!

[Lazlow]

I managed to download it quite quickly about an hour ago - but maybe there is excess traffic from bit's news post (and others)...

[eddtox]

Haven't tried Ubuntu... I tried debian and hated it (too complex for my ickle brain :P) and now I run SUSE which I find much easier to use.

-ed out

[quack]

Thank you monkeyville for reposting my little warning.

I tried installing the tools after installing Ubuntu 6.06 in VMware and discovered it was pretty incompatible. It may break your network configuration and audio - both of which work without the tools being installed.

I'm sure a fix is forthcoming from VMware.

[Kipman725]

I use ubuntu for servers, I would use it for desktop aswell If I could get my sound working, looking forward to draper drake

[Glider]

Originally Posted by lepre

microsoft give real strong support to the developer for it's platform, that's why windows have lots of apps working good without compromise.

What more developer support do you expect than Linux gives you? You get the source code... It doesn't get any better than that...

[MrWillyWonka]

Originally Posted by Cthippo

Their server is hammered, can't even get a response from the download server. Annoying, but I think this is a good sign!

I got a solid 845kb/s out of the European servers, downloaded the whole thing in just 12 minutes!

Hopefully it's as good as Ubuntu 5 which is one of the Linux distros that could actually get computer novices to move from Windows to Linux since it's such a simple distro.

[yahooadam]

Looks pretty good, nice that you can setup a webserver in 1 command

[[Jonny]]

Just got dual monitors and XGL working on mine, which is a bit of a pain. (you have use the terminal and other argh stuff, hopefully these things will work "out of the box" in Edgy) It was bloody easy to install from the LiveCD compared to other Linux distro's though. (and even Windows)

Anyway, this is my current Ubuntu desktop.

[yahooadam]

very nice, i might have to try it out then .. perhaps a VMWare machine would do

[lepre]

Originally Posted by Glider

What more developer support do you expect than Linux gives you? You get the source code... It doesn't get any better than that...

you call source codes support?
eheh, that's at least one reason why linux doesn't have any real standard. everybody do what they like, well that seems a great deal. but not everybody are programmer. and the average people can only try what they can find, and if they don't like it...it's gone. that's it.

you want an example?
look at [Jonny] screenshot. see the task bar? why the hell 2 apps must take up all that space? why? and that thing works really bad for me on other cases too!
as i said before. these are small things which make the difference. there are entire studies on how the app should work/look, them are useless?

[steveo_mcg]

look at [Jonny] screenshot. see the task bar? why the hell 2 apps must take up all that space?

To be fair there is nothing else open so i don't see what diff the space taken actualy makes, when you start to open stuff, the space is redistributed. Besides that there is another 3 virtual desktops and as many X desktops as you want you could have a screen for each app if you were so inclined. Its all about choice.

[Glider]

Originally Posted by lepre

you call source codes support?
eheh, that's at least one reason why linux doesn't have any real standard. everybody do what they like, well that seems a great deal. but not everybody are programmer. and the average people can only try what they can find, and if they don't like it...it's gone. that's it.

What do you call support then? Telling a developer they have to do it like that, or otherwise it won't work... And Linux doesn't have a standard? Come on, have you ever used Linux???

Originally Posted by lepre

you want an example?
look at [Jonny] screenshot. see the task bar? why the hell 2 apps must take up all that space? why? and that thing works really bad for me on other cases too!
as i said before. this are small things which make the difference. there are entire studies on how the app should work/look, them are useless?

They don't... That's a choice you have... on my fluxbox taskbar I set it up so that everything gets an equal amount, regardless of how many are open.

And your studies don't mean a thing... An app has to look the way it works best for me... Not for the average person... And by miracle, linux does exactly that... Windows forces me into their layout...

[[Jonny]]

Originally Posted by lepre

you call source codes support?

Do developers call technical support when they need to get something working in Windows then? ("Have you tried turning it off and on again?")

I would have though what developers need is good documentation, and there is no better documentation than source code.

Originally Posted by lepre

you want an example?
look at [Jonny] screenshot. see the task bar? why the hell 2 apps must take up all that space? why? and that thing works really bad for me on other cases too!

They use that much space because it isn't being used by anything else. When there are more programs open they take up less space obviously.

An advantage is that you can see the applications title fully.