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WilHarris · 9th Jun 2006, 08:44

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/06...o_the_UK_soon/

Atomic · 9th Jun 2006, 09:59

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The BBC has calculated that once analogue terrestrial is turned off in 2012 there will be enough bandwidth to carry 6 high definition channels, enough for the five main channels plus one.

Pleeeeease say BBC3 will be in HD aswell.

fev · 9th Jun 2006, 10:06

the crystal palace tower jobby is enabled, it's also encrypted for use with a special "beeb-box". I'll pull the article down in a minute

DaSuperFly · 9th Jun 2006, 10:23

It's good news but 6 HD channels isn't enough. Looks like i'll be getting Sky for some HD loving in the future.

rupbert · 9th Jun 2006, 10:24

I just worry that due to the sever lack of bandwidth available, the HD bitrate will gradually be reduced as more channels (like SD freeview) are added.

I suppose the same fear can be held with Sky HD. Anyone know if there are any 'minimum bitrate' specifications HD must maintain to be actually classed as a HD broadcast?

rupbert · 9th Jun 2006, 10:25

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Originally Posted by DaSuperFly

It's good news but 6 HD channels isn't enough. Looks like i'll be getting Sky for some HD loving in the future.

I agree, however the growth of freeview has shown that most people are happy with a smaller group of channels.

otispunkmeyer · 9th Jun 2006, 11:23

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Originally Posted by rupbert

I agree, however the growth of freeview has shown that most people are happy with a smaller group of channels.

aye

i need only one channel, well ok 2 and

BBC2 for top gear
ITV for F1, BTCC and WRC

thats it

rupbert · 9th Jun 2006, 11:46

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Originally Posted by otispunkmeyer

BBC2 for top gear
ITV for F1, BTCC and WRC

You got good viewing taste

Atomic · 9th Jun 2006, 11:59

Channel 4 for: Lost/Invasion/My name is Earl/Scrapheap Challenge
BBC3 - All the Comedy Shows

Tibby · 9th Jun 2006, 12:43

BBC2 For Top Gear is all I need.

I watch very little tv, I am more a torrent man.

I don't like having to wait every week and being left on a cliff hanger, and I especially don't like having to schedule time to watch something on tv that much, I would much rather have it on disc to watch when I wanted.

Atomic · 9th Jun 2006, 12:51

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Originally Posted by Tibby

and I especially don't like having to schedule time to watch something on tv that much, I would much rather have it on disc to watch when I wanted.

Thus why I bought a Freeview PVR.

Veles · 9th Jun 2006, 21:42

I don't even have a TV

I'm interested to know what resolution these channels will be at. Will they be able to do 6 1080p channels or have they calculated it for the bare minimum 480p?

yahooadam · 10th Jun 2006, 09:14

well how many channels does it support right now ? 6 in channels will be good, but that's 6 years away, HDTV will probably be upgraded to something else by then, but kicking everyone off the terrestrial also isn't a good option, so tough choice, interesting to see if the trail works, though I'm still of the impression a lot of people don't have a HD TV

DougEdey · 10th Jun 2006, 09:15

get more4 and filmfour hdtv, that'll make me happy.

Veles · 10th Jun 2006, 12:48

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Originally Posted by yahooadam

...HDTV will probably be upgraded to something else by then...

I don't think theres really any need, at least theres no need to increase the resolution any more, theres only a certain amount of detail your eye can see, and I think 1080p (or whatever it is) is probably slightly above that.

Other than that, what can be improved? Colour? Don't think so. I think the only real step forward after this is full blown hologrpahic images.

yahooadam · 11th Jun 2006, 00:37

actually the digital rendering could be done significantly better, a digital image still doesnt look anywhere near as good as a terrestrial one, they just dont put the time into encoding them, and it shows, digital images end up more washed out ....

Lazarus Dark · 11th Jun 2006, 05:47

You mean you guys dont have dtv over there? im in a relatively small city and we got 30 channels overtheair with hdtv during primetime shows. you guys are way behind.

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Will they be able to do 6 1080p channels

er.. do you know how much bandwidth that takes?! we wont see more than 1080i/720p overtheair for at least ten years. and youre already like five years behind us. besides, i bet the studios will fight to keep 1080p from free broadcast, they need some reason for us to buy their precious 1080p hddvd/bluray discs.

IanW · 11th Jun 2006, 07:04

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Originally Posted by Lazarus Dark

You mean you guys dont have dtv over there? im in a relatively small city and we got 30 channels overtheair with hdtv during primetime shows. you guys are way behind.

We have digital TV 3 ways here in the UK. Satellite, Cable & OTA. Unfortunately the broadcasters are using the compression to provide more & more channels that nobody wants to watch, instead of going totally HD.

HD has arrived (just) via satellite & cable, but the companies want us to buy new receivers AND pay more subscription money for a mere 4-6 HD channels.

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Tibby Technologic Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: London / Sheffield Posts: 2,003	BBC2 For Top Gear is all I need. I watch very little tv, I am more a torrent man. I don't like having to wait every week and being left on a cliff hanger, and I especially don't like having to schedule time to watch something on tv that much, I would much rather have it on disc to watch when I wanted. __________________ Tiberius - Master Of Pie My Xbox360 Can Talk!

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DaSuperFly Tsuyoi Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: West Wales / London Posts: 1,010	It's good news but 6 HD channels isn't enough. Looks like i'll be getting Sky for some HD loving in the future.

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rupbert Hypermodder Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 799	I just worry that due to the sever lack of bandwidth available, the HD bitrate will gradually be reduced as more channels (like SD freeview) are added. I suppose the same fear can be held with Sky HD. Anyone know if there are any 'minimum bitrate' specifications HD must maintain to be actually classed as a HD broadcast?

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yahooadam Ultra csavarkulcs Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: UK Posts: 1,323	well how many channels does it support right now ? 6 in channels will be good, but that's 6 years away, HDTV will probably be upgraded to something else by then, but kicking everyone off the terrestrial also isn't a good option, so tough choice, interesting to see if the trail works, though I'm still of the impression a lot of people don't have a HD TV

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DougEdey I pwn all your storage Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Southampton Posts: 13,933	get more4 and filmfour hdtv, that'll make me happy.

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yahooadam Ultra csavarkulcs Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: UK Posts: 1,323	actually the digital rendering could be done significantly better, a digital image still doesnt look anywhere near as good as a terrestrial one, they just dont put the time into encoding them, and it shows, digital images end up more washed out ....