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WilHarris · 12th Jun 2006, 15:03

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/06...works_for_dat/

yahooadam · 12th Jun 2006, 15:37

i'm surprised they take so long, but its a blatant invasion of privacy imo

zero0ne · 12th Jun 2006, 15:46

saying that its invasion of privacy is a bit far-fetched, considering the internet is public.

gpw111 · 12th Jun 2006, 15:49

yer if u choose to post every single detail of your life online then its your own fault if the governemt then builds up a secret profile on you-they're hardly invading your privacy as you've given it away of your own accord already.

Bindibadgi · 12th Jun 2006, 15:54

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Originally Posted by yahooadam

i'm surprised they take so long, but its a blatant invasion of privacy imo

It's really not, if people choose to freely put their information online.

ChromeX · 12th Jun 2006, 16:32

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Originally Posted by Bindibadgi

It's really not, if people choose to freely put their information online.

There's a world of difference between putting abit of info about yourself on the net to find or join new circles of friends or having that same info used to build up a psychological profile about a person, and you damn know it!

yahooadam is right, this is an invasion of privacy. Companies have no right to sack people based on what they do in there free time, now you can say "oh, what if there looking at child porn and they work in a nursery" well thats find but you know blatantly thats not what im talking about! Likewise educational institutions have no right to restrict admission based on sexual preference!

Its very hypocritical, if I were collecting data on someone for whatever purpose I wanted it i'd be breaking countless laws about, privacy and the data protection act etc, but if the american government then its ok, because its for our own good and saftey? BS!

whisperwolf · 12th Jun 2006, 16:35

Cant see it helping to catch terrorists but can see it being helpful to profile the youth of USA and spotting potential "dissidents" of the current regime. To be honest if your going to put your life into a public space you really shouldn't be suprised if people use that information for their own gain

DreamTheEndless · 12th Jun 2006, 16:35

~~The Bush administration is such a pile of crap. These stories keep piling up, one on top of another. It makes me wish I had citizenship ANYWHERE else.~~

On second thought - nevermind. You don't know who might be reading this.....

cderalow · 12th Jun 2006, 16:36

yeah but the internet being public domain means that they're well within their rights to do it.

doesn't bug me, build a psychological profile all they want, who the hell cares?

yahooadam · 12th Jun 2006, 16:52

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Originally Posted by Bindibadgi

It's really not, if people choose to freely put their information online.

your giving away information about yourself, but it shouldn't be used to make a profile on you, find out what your doing, monitor your movements
there's a difference between people looking at your data and people analyzing and possibly effecting your life with it (targeted spam, monitoring movements etc)

ChromeX · 12th Jun 2006, 16:55

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Originally Posted by cderalow

yeah but the internet being public domain means that they're well within their rights to do it.

doesn't bug me, build a psychological profile all they want, who the hell cares?

I do, this argument is made time and time again that "its ok, i've got nothing to hide" and thats good and all that your behaving yourself, but its not really the point. This is another step towards a policed state, where our every thought or preference is categorised and if we're not all the same or we dont comform to a set standard we're incarcerated, its pure facism and we need to draw the line!

CyberSol · 12th Jun 2006, 17:05

Muhahahaha! I knew this would happen. All my friends are on myspace, and I have to ask them not to mention me by name. I told them that anybody including big brother could read or process the info, but did they listen? Pshh no!

eddtox · 12th Jun 2006, 17:12

I'm glad I didn't jump on the band-wagon. Mind you, I'm in the UK: can they do that to citizens of other countries? It's scary that nobody seems to be resisting this, though.

-ed out

specofdust · 12th Jun 2006, 17:17

Wow I'm glad I live in the UK. At least we still have a government that attempts to look as if it's aim isn't square in the middle of a 1984 type universe. What a crappy place to live the US must be.

eek · 12th Jun 2006, 17:17

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Originally Posted by ChromeX

There's a world of difference between putting abit of info about yourself on the net to find or join new circles of friends or having that same info used to build up a psychological profile about a person, and you damn know it!

It is upto the users to MySpace to decide what they want and don't want to publish. If the information is publically available I don't see what the problem is. If they are stupid enough to admit to drug taking etc on a public site then they only people they have to blame is themselves.

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Originally Posted by ChromeX

yahooadam is right, this is an invasion of privacy. Companies have no right to sack people based on what they do in there free time, now you can say "oh, what if there looking at child porn and they work in a nursery" well thats find but you know blatantly thats not what im talking about! Likewise educational institutions have no right to restrict admission based on sexual preference!

Yes they do if it is a "orthodox religious college" like the article refers to, it's completely against what they stand for.

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Originally Posted by ChromeX

Its very hypocritical, if I were collecting data on someone for whatever purpose I wanted it i'd be breaking countless laws about, privacy and the data protection act etc, but if the american government then its ok, because its for our own good and saftey? BS!

Again, it's public information. You may be doing damage on a moral level, but from a legal standpoint I don't see what would be wrong with it.

I don't agree with what the US government is doing, but if you are going to post information about yourself publically then that's your own fault.

CyberSol · 12th Jun 2006, 17:20

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Originally Posted by eddtox

I'm glad I didn't jump on the band-wagon. Mind you, I'm in the UK: can they do that to citizens of other countries? It's scary that nobody seems to be resisting this, though.

-ed out

It isn't scary. Its the internet, anybody or anything can do whatever the heck they want with the info. People like me resist by not posting really personal stuff about themselves on the internet. Sure im on the internet; CyberSol is 8th or 9th on google, and my real name is the first 15 hits; however you won't find anything personal, and you can be sure I don't put my friends info out there besides "my gf broke my toe" or "my friend just got his IFR rating" etc. It bugs me that people complain about their rights on the internet; because tbh you really don't have anyrights. I've seen instances where someone says "Eww I don't want you looking at my page" or "how the h*** did you find that out?" I just say if you put it on the internet I'm gonna read it, If you don't want that then don't post it.

olly_lewis · 12th Jun 2006, 17:28

And so another part of freedom is relinquished from the citizen... ah well it was bound to happen, just as the FBI aquired permission to tap voip communication.. But at least its not bank details, phone records, addresses and more private information, they can only gather what information you put up there... but it is still un-nerving...

Firehed · 12th Jun 2006, 18:02

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Originally Posted by yahooadam

i'm surprised they take so long, but its a blatant invasion of privacy imo

It's publicly displayed information. They're perfectly within their rights to gather information not only displayed publicly but intended to be out there.

OTOH, it's just another reason not to use MySpace. It's great for teaching horrible page design though.

If you don't want your information out there, don't post it. Simple as that. They're not going through private ISP records to do this (mind you they do go through the records, but not for this purpose).

Hi, I'm Eric, an 18 year old straight male who lives in Williston, VT who spends way too much time posting on an English forum. And I don't care who knows it, so it being online is fine with me.

It'd be one thing if someone else were posting your info and thus it being published without your permission, but that's not the case.

yahooadam · 12th Jun 2006, 19:21

what stops them at myspace though, what about any forum, what about websites and blogs
Where does it end, do you want them to know that your against the establishment ....

*Y@h00k@* · 12th Jun 2006, 20:55

if ur posting pics of yourself shooting heroine on the net, then you might as well do it in the streets and get caught there... The Internet is as public as it gets. Anybody can look up your information if u post it, and u damn well know they can. So what are you guys saying, that you can post it, but we cant watch... Thats like a woman showing me her titties and telling me I can't watch. Get a ****ing private diary!!!
Ah but wait, the problem is the psychological portrait thats being made up... What, u think when someone reads ur posts, they don't make up a psychological portrait of you??? Sure it won't be as detailes as what the gouvernement is able to make. But then again, do u think the gouvernement is gonna care about who your friends are? or what club you frequent... Unless ur making some bombs, or doing something really wrong, i don't think they'll care too much...

Hell, even businesses can use this info for all i ****ing care, u saying spam is a problem? How about not posting ur E-mail on ur page? If they dont know where to contact u, they cant use their portraits for sheit now can they...

12th Jun 2006, 15:03	#1
WilHarris Just another nobody Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Oxford Posts: 2,671	US.Gov to harvest MySpace, social networks for data http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/06...works_for_dat/

12th Jun 2006, 16:35	#7
whisperwolf Ultramodder Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 1,194	Cant see it helping to catch terrorists but can see it being helpful to profile the youth of USA and spotting potential "dissidents" of the current regime. To be honest if your going to put your life into a public space you really shouldn't be suprised if people use that information for their own gain __________________ "I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it. " Voltaire. My Flickr

12th Jun 2006, 16:35	#8
DreamTheEndless Gravity hates Bacon Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 1,554	~~The Bush administration is such a pile of crap. These stories keep piling up, one on top of another. It makes me wish I had citizenship ANYWHERE else.~~ On second thought - nevermind. You don't know who might be reading this..... __________________ Srenob is deader than dead, so check out my new blog instead: http://i-have-a-blog-now.blogspot.com/ (Note - there's not much there yet, but maybe there will be someday.)

12th Jun 2006, 17:05	#12
CyberSol 1337 Pants Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: On teh interweb USA Posts: 857	Muhahahaha! I knew this would happen. All my friends are on myspace, and I have to ask them not to mention me by name. I told them that anybody including big brother could read or process the info, but did they listen? Pshh no! __________________ Survival Gear

12th Jun 2006, 17:17	#14
specofdust Banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Aberdeen, UK, EU Posts: 7,622	Wow I'm glad I live in the UK. At least we still have a government that attempts to look as if it's aim isn't square in the middle of a 1984 type universe. What a crappy place to live the US must be. __________________ Like marmite, only no-one hates it Mmm bop!

12th Jun 2006, 15:37	#2
yahooadam Ultra csavarkulcs Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: UK Posts: 1,323	i'm surprised they take so long, but its a blatant invasion of privacy imo

12th Jun 2006, 15:46	#3
zero0ne Multimodder Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 112	saying that its invasion of privacy is a bit far-fetched, considering the internet is public.

12th Jun 2006, 15:49	#4
gpw111 Multimodder Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: London Posts: 92	yer if u choose to post every single detail of your life online then its your own fault if the governemt then builds up a secret profile on you-they're hardly invading your privacy as you've given it away of your own accord already.

12th Jun 2006, 16:36	#9
cderalow bondage master! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Pot-o-mac, MD Posts: 3,519	yeah but the internet being public domain means that they're well within their rights to do it. doesn't bug me, build a psychological profile all they want, who the hell cares?

12th Jun 2006, 17:12	#13
eddtox Supermodder Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Medway Posts: 345	I'm glad I didn't jump on the band-wagon. Mind you, I'm in the UK: can they do that to citizens of other countries? It's scary that nobody seems to be resisting this, though. -ed out

12th Jun 2006, 17:28	#17
olly_lewis Hypermodder Join Date: May 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 756	And so another part of freedom is relinquished from the citizen... ah well it was bound to happen, just as the FBI aquired permission to tap voip communication.. But at least its not bank details, phone records, addresses and more private information, they can only gather what information you put up there... but it is still un-nerving... __________________ My signature dumped me... ___________

12th Jun 2006, 19:21	#19
yahooadam Ultra csavarkulcs Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: UK Posts: 1,323	what stops them at myspace though, what about any forum, what about websites and blogs Where does it end, do you want them to know that your against the establishment ....

12th Jun 2006, 20:55	#20
Y@h00k@ What's a Dremel? Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Brussels, Belgium Posts: 17	if ur posting pics of yourself shooting heroine on the net, then you might as well do it in the streets and get caught there... The Internet is as public as it gets. Anybody can look up your information if u post it, and u damn well know they can. So what are you guys saying, that you can post it, but we cant watch... Thats like a woman showing me her titties and telling me I can't watch. Get a **ing private diary!!! Ah but wait, the problem is the psychological portrait thats being made up... What, u think when someone reads ur posts, they don't make up a psychological portrait of you??? Sure it won't be as detailes as what the gouvernement is able to make. But then again, do u think the gouvernement is gonna care about who your friends are? or what club you frequent... Unless ur making some bombs, or doing something really wrong, i don't think they'll care too much... Hell, even businesses can use this info for all i **ing care, u saying spam is a problem? How about not posting ur E-mail on ur page? If they dont know where to contact u, they cant use their portraits for sheit now can they...