News Take Two taken to court

[WilHarris]

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/06...aken_to_court/

[Fusen]

take two should show the courts how you enable this, it isn't built into the main storyline that each player faces and it isn't easily turned on by a mission or anything. It actually needs to manually activated by the player using a device like the action reply addon

and the default skins were not naked either, so all you got was dry humping, it was modders not associated with R* that added the nude skins

such a load of crap

[mmorgue]

Yeh but this is the Yanks we're talking about -- glorifying violence to such an extreme that the thought of banning guns is to be "un-american". Their TV bleeps expletives and cuts out nudity but weapons and violence galore? Sure that's ok.

Watched some show on channel 5 last nite where Gordan Ramsey was on the Conan o Brian show trying to get the lanky w@nker to do some basic cooking. Each time Gordon rightly cursed, Conan went howling into the corner like a 6 year old who'd just heard the F word for the first time, while the audience went histerical. I mean, ffs people!

[Cheap Mod Wannabe]

Although I don't want to sound too harsh or anything, but I think U.S. needs to lose a major war or something...

Just to get them off the F^&%ing little problems they're dealing with and get some sense of what is right/wrong, what is important/unimportant, what is dangerous and what is not.

[will.]

We had a bunch of kids from the US at school. They soon settled in, but at first they were amazed by the swearing.. it was funny, the shocked looks people got from saying even little swears like damn (is that even a swear in the UK?) mention the F word and they almost cried... mebe not because they found it offensive, just that they don't usually hear it so widely used. I can't imagine what they were like when they saw chanel 5 for the first time... or channel 4's porn: the darkside series... Or channel 4's daytime slot recently when they showed tits.. even i was a little shocked when i heared about that. I know its in no sexual context, but still, its 12:30 in the afternoon!

Ironically, these kids were usually the ones that at parties were out of controll. Drinking like nutters and f'in all over the place (in both sences of the word)...

They should go to holland.

[DXR_13KE]

I LEARNED HOW TO MAEK SEX SMOKE DRUGS KILL PEOPLE WITH 1337 VIDEO GAMEZ LAEK GTA SA!!!!!!!!!

ITS JUST POLIGONS!!!!!!!!!!

this is getting out of control, FFS please concentrate on more important stuff like proper education and finishing the wars you started.

[GauteHauk]

Stop being a jackass. Just because there are a few Americans or the few you have met were idiots doesn't mean we're all like that. I don't like the FCC. I don't like censorship.(What ever happened to free speech?) I don't like hearing bleeps on my tv, or hear it in the music I listen to over the radio. I'm not a prude. I've seen sex. I've had sex. I know it exists.

I can understand we want to protect those younger, more impressionable minds. I can't, however, understand the lengths to which our ignorant extremists are willing to go to when it comes to swearing and other general obsceneties to make the younger minds think it doesn't exist. These are people who think their kids will never have sex(at least not until marriage and even then only will they have sex to make children and after that, never again).

These are also people who think their kids can do no wrong, or that the world is out to corrupt their kids. Therefore, instead of educating their kids, they look to rid the world of the things they don't like. Oddly enough, they're attacking a niche market of small-time corruption instead of things like the multi-billion dollar porn industry. ****, there's sex trafficking going on here in the US, but they're worried about a MOD to a video game that let their characters dry hump.

I'd personally rather all this effort be put into fixing the God Damned government that can't seem to figure out which way is up. I mean, honestly, after seeing the things I've seen over the past few years, I'm ready to give up and move. But that's not America's fault, that's the fault of the people who have voted and the people who managed to claw their way into office and **** everything up for everyone.

A president who -ISN'T- checked and balanced against the judiciary and legislative branches, but has near dictatorship level control over what our country does. I'm sickened of my school system, our government, and our other authority agencies. I guess we're all waiting for someone who's ready to give up their lives to give back to Americans what's been slowly taken away from us; our right to govern ourselves by controlling what our government can and cannot do. (Honestly, look at all the old codgers in office, at all levels, and compare them to the typical person. These guys are completely out of touch with America and serve only themselves, thinking they're doing some higher good.)

I mean, can you really fault the American people for not voting for anyone when their choices are limited to TWO people who were failures in life up until the moment they became potential leaders of America? Our system is broken and we can't do anything about it because the system will eat anyone who tries to change it. We've got a machine that's steamrolling the people it's supposedly designed to support.

But that isn't to say that the dumb ones that get the spotlight(Damn near every media advocacy group. They're all extremists looking for some **** to cause a huge stir in the media and a cause that can make them look like a hero.) area the majority of Americans. So stop the American bashing.

All this racket over a dry-humping scene? Seriously, we have more porn sites that children are more likely to stumble onto than unlocking this mod and they're targeting the dry humping! Honestly, fewer people would have known about that mod in the world if those jackasses hadn't made it out to be the end of the world.

To reiterate, I don't condone their stupidity, I believe people should smash those involved in "exposing" this "travesty" against mankind. However, I do not condone the Anti-American ****ing mentality you people have. I like Bit-Tech, a lot. I have no problem with the community here, except when I keep seeing this pattern of American hating. Honestly, I'm not screwing with you guys, why are you going to screw with me?

Lots of people just want to get along and not have conflict. I'm one of them. I don't hate you because you're from another country, so stop throwing me into the basket of assholes just because you saw a few or even a hundred idiots from America. Also, can't we all agree that our video games should be left the **** alone? I mean, I'm not going on a killing rampage because I played GTA3 when it came out. I haven't lost my mind. I also take responsibility for my actions and have self control. I got tired of the same-game concept when the next one came out, so I quit playing.

This... as much as I try to edit it... is nothing more than a huge rant. It has a point, but not one most people will accept. One American guy who's sick of what he sees inside his country, outside his country, and tired of the assholes who keep trying to control his life without allowing him to affect the outcome.

Also, Cheap Mod Wannabe, I cannot believe you said that. I don't think the loss of human lives that large(it would take a LOT for us to lose a war) will make us any less... us. That line of thinking will get you nowhere. And where have you been? Any knowledge of Vietnam? We didn't win there, not by a long shot. And that was no small thing, we're still collecting bodies there whenever we can.

[Gunsmith]

/me whistles

[Godboy_g]

I sooo want to make a joke about 'Typical Yanks', but that wouldn't be very polite of me. I mean, that's what us Canadians are all 'aboot' Eh?


LOL





P.S. The above comment is not meant to offend, unless it did, then it might have, or then again, maybe not........ err...... What were we talking about again?

[yahooadam]

i dont understand why this has come up again, i also think what the courts did was plain stupid
They have made a massive deal out of this, it would have just been an underground thing, but now everyone on the planet know about it, there have been millions of copy's sold with the bad code, why on earth tell everyone its there ......
This is also very unfair, this is not original content, this is done trough modification, meaning its not the original game any more .... like making characters in oblivion naked

[specofdust]

Originally Posted by GauteHauk

Also, Cheap Mod Wannabe, I cannot believe you said that. I don't think the loss of human lives that large(it would take a LOT for us to lose a war) will make us any less... us. That line of thinking will get you nowhere. And where have you been? Any knowledge of Vietnam? We didn't win there, not by a long shot. And that was no small thing, we're still collecting bodies there whenever we can.

I'm sorry, but he's spot on the money. The US is immature as hell, in its television, in its politics, in its sue-happy culture. I agree that there are many US citizens that aren't, but by and large the place is obviously run by children. Losing wars makes nations grow the hell up, and it's what the US needs.

Regarding the article, maybe take two should just pull out of the US? How incredibly stupid do you get that you sue people for having a game that can be modded to have porn? I can install windows and change my desktop backround to a Full Frontal pic in seconds. It doesn't make windows pronographic.

[ElThomsono]

[furqan]

Originally Posted by ElThomsono

o.k. that's it, I'm taking you to court!!!

[Stonewall78]

Originally Posted by Godboy_g

I sooo want to make a joke about 'Typical Yanks', but that wouldn't be very polite of me. I mean, that's what us Canadians are all 'aboot' Eh?
LOL

Eh thats not right, it is aboot time people stop thinking we say those things aboot us don't you
In some ways loosing a war is good for a country, just look at Japan and German now for example (in no way do I condon such lose of life though).

[ElThomsono]

Originally Posted by badboy

o.k. that's it, I'm taking you to court!!!

Oh noes!

It's all about context TBH, this is a game where you kill drug dealers, not an episode of Sesame Street

[Cheap Mod Wannabe]

Originally Posted by GauteHauk

Also, Cheap Mod Wannabe, I cannot believe you said that. I don't think the loss of human lives that large(it would take a LOT for us to lose a war) will make us any less... us. That line of thinking will get you nowhere. And where have you been? Any knowledge of Vietnam? We didn't win there, not by a long shot. And that was no small thing, we're still collecting bodies there whenever we can.

Look there, stop with Vietnam and all, if you did not understand that I was talking about mental affects of the war, and the maturity that it brings, emphasizing what is important and what is not, well then the only thing I can do to help you is improve my english. Which I will do. Did you seriously understand from my post that I meant: "the more Americans die the better" (WTF it's not jank, it's not American either, it's a person from United States =P, you don't want to be politically incorrect now do you? You might hurt the feelings of Canadians or Mexicans who are also "Americans")

As for you collecting bodies in Vietnam, yes wow... See you got more mature knowing what is important to you. I apreciate that. And United States is dear to you I see, which is also a great thing. But please don't say "that's not America's fault, that's the fault of the people who have voted" for the government. It does not make sense. People who vote are people who make up "America" And the fact that most Americans are not happy with who is running their government is THEIR FAULT. It is AMERICA'S fault and it shows the immaturity of the country. Now I totally understand why that it, it's because our everyday Joe, has trouble supporting his family, and when he comes home from work all he wants is to relax and sit in front of TV. He does not think about Net Neutrality, or the Damn Senator who proposed a bill which will make Joe work harder. But that is A PROBLEM. You "American's" used to care a LOT. What happened? Why are people in U.S. government doing what they want and you just sit there and say "oh well my stupid neighboors elected him." You stopped caring about what is happening to you, most people here in NY don't care about what is happening in Iraq and all I can say is WOW and WTF Your country is at WAR?! Where are the huge protests if you don't support the War, Where are the War Bonds?! The modest living and resource management to support the War? You stopped caring (not you specifically you cared enaugh to post a comment) But You Americans. And I think that losing a major war for U.S. would bring back the America as it used to be.

Edit: (NY-New York)

[DXR_13KE]

is NY = New York?

as for Vietnam, the USA was winning the war, it won evey battle, they lost the war because the VCs were making the war mental, putting mines and bombs and traps everywere, the troops got demoralized, the media showed dead and beet up Troops and the public did not like it, the war was not lost by effort but with the help of the American people.

wars suck.

as for sex, i have a cousin that knows a ton about sex and he is only 10, i did not teach it to him, neither video games, his school mates did. lets just ban sex, pron, school, video games, internet, TV and all the rest for that mather.

and i DONT hate Americans, i dont hate anyone for their nation, i just dont understand the decision Americans did in electing an ape to be their president.

[Cobalt]

We had exchange students from the USA and they seemed completly unfazed by our use of swearing even if they did not use any of the four letter words themselves. They came from a very conservative area (in one of the Southern states, I can't remember which one) so we were surprised at this. However when our students when over there they found that although the younger generation had no problems with bad language, violence etc, many of the parents turned out to be the "born again" Christian types who were highly offended by most of that stuff.

One of my friends is quite a heavy gamer, as in he games a lot not that he's fat (although he does weigh 14 stone but thats mainly muscle), so he took his laptop with him. They conficated it when they saw him playing UT.

There are many different attitudes in the US but when the majority of people who speak out and go to vote are the ones with such conflicting moral agendas (gore but no boobs WTF?) what do you expect the rest of the world to think?

[speedfreek]

Originally Posted by ElThomsono

Oh noes!

I should sue you too, Ive been perfectly sheltered most of my life and you screwed it all up. How dare you expose me to such pixelated reality.

Originally Posted by ElThomsono

It's all about context TBH, this is a game where you kill drug dealers, not an episode of Sesame Street

Its not a game intended for children, it has a mature rating because you shouldnt play it unless you have a certian degree of maturity. I wonder who got the idea to shelter everyone from reality, its always about protecting the children. I think that when they are mature enough to play the game, thats mental maturity and not simply physical maturity, then they should be able to handle whatever is in the game. Personally I have problems with a lot of these protect the innocent sheltered ones laws, last weekend it cost me $170 for doing somthing that is perfectly fine in most countries and societies that instill a degree of personal responsibility on its residents.*

I agree with most of what GauteHauk said, the founding fathers probably assumed that future leaders wouldnt try to impose their own beliefs and politics on the citizens. But thats what we have and to some degree it holds true all over the world. Remember that not all Americans are morons, just the half that voted for bush.

* $170 for underage drinking ticket.**
** Im 19 and the stupid legal age is 21

[sofalover]

Wait until you Yanks get Hilary (carpet muncher) Clinton as president, talk about nutjobs.