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WilHarris · 17th Jul 2006, 22:08

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/07...wireless_rice/

Spacecowboy92 · 17th Jul 2006, 22:12

Wow, I wondered what wireless rice was when I read the title. Those things must be tiny. Have to be careful you dont drop one, you'll never find it again!

bubsterboo · 17th Jul 2006, 22:15

Wow, pretty cool... its funny what small things can do these days. And yea, i couldent resist finding out what that title meant

Glider · 17th Jul 2006, 22:16

/me thinks of warwalking

fev · 17th Jul 2006, 22:48

go UK go UK wooo GO TEAM!

chemo · 17th Jul 2006, 22:52

sorry to be dim, but how are they powered?

DXR_13KE · 17th Jul 2006, 22:59

cool

, next stop, inteligent wireless documents.

Krikkit · 17th Jul 2006, 23:01

What an awesome development, about time something like this came along. Can't wait to see it in products.

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Originally Posted by chemo

sorry to be dim, but how are they powered?

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Originally Posted by BBC

No battery is needed because devices reading data from the chip will provide power by induction.

Pookeyhead · 17th Jul 2006, 23:18

but it's wi-fi, which implies distance.. no good for induction then.. it must be powered.

thecrownles · 17th Jul 2006, 23:23

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Originally Posted by Pookeyhead

but it's wi-fi, which implies distance.. no good for induction then.. it must be powered.

short-range wireless transmission capability =/= wi-fi

eddtox · 17th Jul 2006, 23:27

Wow... think of all the rainforests which could be saved. I can just picture myself carrying one of these to class instead of a notebook

. Probably not anytime soon, though.

-ed out

Vigfus · 18th Jul 2006, 00:17

I foresee paperback books to come with the digital counterpart included right in the book.

At a hugeley inflated price ofcourse.

LVMike · 18th Jul 2006, 00:29

i see this replacing some rfid apps. like an implanted medical history, or something along that line.

draxar · 18th Jul 2006, 01:22

I forsee the same trouble as is happening/will soon be happening with RFID - lack of security (not due to lack of possibility of security, just people not bothering), and people being able to misuse or change the information when they shouldn't be.

But I'm a cynic.

bender386 · 18th Jul 2006, 04:45

do you recon that they could implant one im my hand for me

NaThRo · 18th Jul 2006, 07:21

Another interesting application could be replacing barcodes on shop products.

They obviously wouldn't need to store 100 pages of information, 1kB would be more than enough. Especially if the cost was on a scale...
512kB = $1
256kB = $0.55
128kB = $0.30
1kB = $0.01 (if that)
(Completely fiction numbers made up by me)
If they were mass-produced on this kind of scale and "built" into packaging, it could potentially cost even less

.

Imagine doing a weekly family shop. Trolley full of food, walk it through a scanner, pay for it, and you're done. No huge line, no waiting for every item to be scanned individually

(except fresh fruit and vegetables though I guess).

It would suck for teenagers though

, because shops wouldn't require as many "check-out-chicks", only two, maybe three would be required in an average supermarket

.

FredsFriend · 18th Jul 2006, 09:34

There could be some interesting applications here but it will probably be plagued with the same security and privacy issues.

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Originally Posted by NaThRo

They obviously wouldn't need to store 100 pages of information, 1kB would be more than enough. Especially if the cost was on a scale...
512kB = $1
256kB = $0.55
128kB = $0.30
1kB = $0.01 (if that)
(Completely fiction numbers made up by me)
If they were mass-produced on this kind of scale and "built" into packaging, it could potentially cost even less

.

The memory isn't the only part of the chip tho, even at an optimistic guess of it costing half of the chip cost you would get
512 = $1
256 = $0.80
128 = $0.65
1 = $0.51
Just going from your numbers

Spaced_invader · 18th Jul 2006, 09:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spacecowboy92

Wow, I wondered what wireless rice was when I read the title. Those things must be tiny. Have to be careful you dont drop one, you'll never find it again!

even if you do, it doesn't really matter at that price lol

mclean007 · 18th Jul 2006, 11:07

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Originally Posted by bender386

do you recon that they could implant one im my hand for me

Man, I am all over that. Imagine never having to sign or enter your PIN to make a purchase; imagine an integrated reader in your mouse so that your PC logged on instantly when you touched it; imagine your passport was integrated into it. That would be awesome - just wave your hand to buy stuff, go on a flight, get through the turnstiles at underground stations.

However, the fun police won't allow it because they'll somehow scaremonger the whole thing into being a violation of human rights (even if it's optional) and an erosion of privacy (even if it's optional).

wharrad · 18th Jul 2006, 11:27

Rice huh?

$1 each?!?!?! Dam, ate a whole bowl full last night

Enough of the spam, it looks a promising technology - but like alot of these things, will believe it when it's released.

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NaThRo Minimodder Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Darwin, Aus Posts: 38	Another interesting application could be replacing barcodes on shop products. They obviously wouldn't need to store 100 pages of information, 1kB would be more than enough. Especially if the cost was on a scale... 512kB = $1 256kB = $0.55 128kB = $0.30 1kB = $0.01 (if that) (Completely fiction numbers made up by me) If they were mass-produced on this kind of scale and "built" into packaging, it could potentially cost even less . Imagine doing a weekly family shop. Trolley full of food, walk it through a scanner, pay for it, and you're done. No huge line, no waiting for every item to be scanned individually (except fresh fruit and vegetables though I guess). It would suck for teenagers though , because shops wouldn't require as many "check-out-chicks", only two, maybe three would be required in an average supermarket . __________________ NaThRo ----- "I believe in Karma. That means I can do bad things to people all day long and I assume they deserve it." -Dogbert

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wharrad Hypermodder Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Burford, Oxfordshire Posts: 866	Rice huh? $1 each?!?!?! Dam, ate a whole bowl full last night Enough of the spam, it looks a promising technology - but like alot of these things, will believe it when it's released. __________________ Jimmy Carr - "It's easier to get forgiveness than permission"