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Garside · 8th Aug 2006, 13:27

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/08..._was_Screw_Up/

specofdust · 8th Aug 2006, 13:53

It may have been a mistake, but it is quite intresting nonetheless. I mean, people largely think they're anonymous and untracable on the internet, so they behave in an honest fashion while doing things like searching. People who want to look at dead bodies can't go ask a coronor or a funeral director, but with google all you need to do is ask and you'll get to see some.

Intresting stuff to me.

fev · 8th Aug 2006, 14:35

i agree with spec.

it makes interesting reading, it also begs the question shouldn't AOL be questionning users searching for "lolita" about their intentions?

sinizterguy · 8th Aug 2006, 15:07

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Originally Posted by fev

i agree with spec.

it makes interesting reading, it also begs the question shouldn't AOL be questionning users searching for "lolita" about their intentions?

Why?

fev · 8th Aug 2006, 15:08

if one of my network users was looking at kiddy porn i'd raise an eyebrow and perhaps tell the authorities

Splinter000 · 8th Aug 2006, 15:59

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car crash photo

http://www.wreckedexotics.com/

Is that really so bad?

Although, I do agree with fev, if users are searching for things like that then they do deserve to have their IDs sent to the authorties.

LVMike · 8th Aug 2006, 16:05

Lolita is the name of a well known American book and movie, it is possible that this was the reason for the search and not the darker connection to child pornography, but some how i doubt it.

The annonimity povided by th internet alows people to feel safe, and when they feel safe they do things that they may know to be wrong, and that they would not do in a normal situation or have access to. I am not surprised by the things people search for, Im surprised more of the search results are not pornograhic, or contriverisal.

DXR_13KE · 8th Aug 2006, 16:38

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Originally Posted by fev

if one of my network users was looking at kiddy porn i'd raise an eyebrow and perhaps tell the authorities

and you would get sued to hell because of you "invaded his privacy".

fev · 8th Aug 2006, 17:06

you use my service you abide by my rules, which includes if you download the kiddies you get handed to authorities.

DXR_13KE · 8th Aug 2006, 18:36

how do you know i dowloaded kiddies? hence "invasion of privacy".

i agree these kiddy porn watching f***s should be put in jails for the rest of their natural lifes and get raped by a big man called Jon Bigrock and his friends everyday of the year.

DarkReaper · 8th Aug 2006, 18:54

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Originally Posted by LVMike

Lolita is the name of a well known American book and movie

Any searches for "of mice and men" or "dracula"? Innocent until proven guilty and all that caper

fev · 8th Aug 2006, 19:01

i know you downloaded kiddies because when you signed to my service you agreed that i could track your net usage for the good of the country.

Any claims of invasion of privacy can be ignored as soon as you put your name on my dotted line

sinizterguy · 8th Aug 2006, 20:27

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Originally Posted by fev

if one of my network users was looking at kiddy porn i'd raise an eyebrow and perhaps tell the authorities

"lolita" search != kiddie porn

For reference
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0056193/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolita
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...23161?v=glance

fev · 8th Aug 2006, 20:28

i know the film and book, but i'm still one to ask the question "so what were you researching?"

DXR_13KE · 8th Aug 2006, 21:21

fev, if you did that no pedophiles would use your service.

Cthippo · 8th Aug 2006, 21:30

fev's arguement brings up a good point from a commerical aspect. When choosing a search engine, who are you going to go with? AOL who released the info and who released aggregate search infomation to the government, or Google who fought them every step of the way? I wouldn't use AOL regardless, but to me this is just another arguement for Google.

To put it another way, reporting your paying customers to the authorities is not a good way to retain paying customers, regardless of the outcome.

sinizterguy · 8th Aug 2006, 22:46

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Originally Posted by fev

i know the film and book, but i'm still one to ask the question "so what were you researching?"

Well, its a good thing youre not working at an ISP then.

fev · 8th Aug 2006, 22:50

yeah if i were an ISP the death penalty would need to be re-introduced.

sinizterguy · 8th Aug 2006, 23:06

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Originally Posted by fev

yeah if i were an ISP the death penalty would need to be re-introduced.

Im all for the death penalty - But I wouldnt like my ISP questioning me over search terms. Visiting kiddie porn sites can be reported to authorities, no problems with that. But no questions over search terms no matter what they are.

dragon2309 · 8th Aug 2006, 23:29

Yet another reason not to use AOl methinks, but no seriously, lolita has more than one meaning as previously stated, so not a lot can be done to report those people, if the search records were released and there were search submissions for things like "child porn" and "kiddy rape" then yeh, obviously thats gonna go straight to the police etc... A lot of the search terms reported are all circumstancial, in that the search terms could have been submitted for a number of reasons, maybe your doing a school project on child abuse or something.... the records make it look like your about to kill your 8 year old brother or something, but its actually compltely opposite. My own conclusion is that those search terms cant really be taken as gospel... its just not enough to come to conclusions on, now if you had those users URL click history, thats a different story....

dragon

8th Aug 2006, 13:27	#1
Garside Supermodder Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: London Posts: 395	AOL apologises for released search data http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/08..._was_Screw_Up/

8th Aug 2006, 13:53	#2
specofdust Banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Aberdeen, UK, EU Posts: 7,607	It may have been a mistake, but it is quite intresting nonetheless. I mean, people largely think they're anonymous and untracable on the internet, so they behave in an honest fashion while doing things like searching. People who want to look at dead bodies can't go ask a coronor or a funeral director, but with google all you need to do is ask and you'll get to see some. Intresting stuff to me. __________________ Like marmite, only no-one hates it Mmm bop!

8th Aug 2006, 14:35	#3
fev Corporate Whore Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Tesco - On Beanbag, Games Playing Office Posts: 2,879	i agree with spec. it makes interesting reading, it also begs the question shouldn't AOL be questionning users searching for "lolita" about their intentions? __________________ I know what I'm doing... do you? Follow me on Twitter..go on

8th Aug 2006, 15:08	#5
fev Corporate Whore Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Tesco - On Beanbag, Games Playing Office Posts: 2,879	if one of my network users was looking at kiddy porn i'd raise an eyebrow and perhaps tell the authorities __________________ I know what I'm doing... do you? Follow me on Twitter..go on

8th Aug 2006, 17:06	#9
fev Corporate Whore Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Tesco - On Beanbag, Games Playing Office Posts: 2,879	you use my service you abide by my rules, which includes if you download the kiddies you get handed to authorities. __________________ I know what I'm doing... do you? Follow me on Twitter..go on

8th Aug 2006, 16:05	#7
LVMike Supermodder Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Las Vegas NV & Rolla MO Posts: 412	Lolita is the name of a well known American book and movie, it is possible that this was the reason for the search and not the darker connection to child pornography, but some how i doubt it. The annonimity povided by th internet alows people to feel safe, and when they feel safe they do things that they may know to be wrong, and that they would not do in a normal situation or have access to. I am not surprised by the things people search for, Im surprised more of the search results are not pornograhic, or contriverisal.

8th Aug 2006, 18:36	#10
DXR_13KE Madeira's banana is the best!!! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Madeira ; Portugal Posts: 6,461	how do you know i dowloaded kiddies? hence "invasion of privacy". i agree these kiddy porn watching f*s should be put in jails for the rest of their natural lifes and get raped by a big man called Jon Bigrock and his friends everyday of the year. __________________ Renegade X - 0.40 Release!** <---- CLICK!

8th Aug 2006, 19:01	#12
fev Corporate Whore Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Tesco - On Beanbag, Games Playing Office Posts: 2,879	i know you downloaded kiddies because when you signed to my service you agreed that i could track your net usage for the good of the country. Any claims of invasion of privacy can be ignored as soon as you put your name on my dotted line __________________ I know what I'm doing... do you? Follow me on Twitter..go on

8th Aug 2006, 20:28	#14
fev Corporate Whore Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Tesco - On Beanbag, Games Playing Office Posts: 2,879	i know the film and book, but i'm still one to ask the question "so what were you researching?" __________________ I know what I'm doing... do you? Follow me on Twitter..go on

8th Aug 2006, 21:21	#15
DXR_13KE Madeira's banana is the best!!! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Madeira ; Portugal Posts: 6,461	fev, if you did that no pedophiles would use your service. __________________ *Renegade X - 0.40 Release!* <---- CLICK!

8th Aug 2006, 21:30	#16
Cthippo Can't mod my way out of a paper bag Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bellingham, WA Posts: 4,456	fev's arguement brings up a good point from a commerical aspect. When choosing a search engine, who are you going to go with? AOL who released the info and who released aggregate search infomation to the government, or Google who fought them every step of the way? I wouldn't use AOL regardless, but to me this is just another arguement for Google. To put it another way, reporting your paying customers to the authorities is not a good way to retain paying customers, regardless of the outcome. __________________ Notice: If we see you flaming we will assume you are on fire and take appropriate measures - The Bit-Tech Fire Brigade.

8th Aug 2006, 22:50	#18
fev Corporate Whore Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Tesco - On Beanbag, Games Playing Office Posts: 2,879	yeah if i were an ISP the death penalty would need to be re-introduced. __________________ I know what I'm doing... do you? Follow me on Twitter..go on

8th Aug 2006, 23:29	#20
dragon2309 electronic Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Kent, UK Posts: 867	Yet another reason not to use AOl methinks, but no seriously, lolita has more than one meaning as previously stated, so not a lot can be done to report those people, if the search records were released and there were search submissions for things like "child porn" and "kiddy rape" then yeh, obviously thats gonna go straight to the police etc... A lot of the search terms reported are all circumstancial, in that the search terms could have been submitted for a number of reasons, maybe your doing a school project on child abuse or something.... the records make it look like your about to kill your 8 year old brother or something, but its actually compltely opposite. My own conclusion is that those search terms cant really be taken as gospel... its just not enough to come to conclusions on, now if you had those users URL click history, thats a different story.... dragon