Xbox 360s with integrated HD-DVD? - bit-tech.net Forums

Bindibadgi · 13th Sep 2006, 14:33

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/09...egrated_hddvd/

I said this would happen eventually.

Cabe · 13th Sep 2006, 14:58

you lose Bindi

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/09...egrated_hddvd/

BioSniper · 13th Sep 2006, 15:00

Oh my. So many people are really going to have a proper hissy fit over this one.
Still its just rumor and not fact so who knows. I for one think its a good idea however it will really put those who already have one's noses out of joint. I would be expecting some kind of rebate plan or similar but it's unlikley they would offer such a scheme (and realistically why should they? I guess they will see it as it was the early adopters choice).

Solidus · 13th Sep 2006, 15:01

lol this would be a big influence to many people, even me in favour of buying an xbox.

Bindibadgi · 13th Sep 2006, 15:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cabe

you lose Bindi

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/09...egrated_hddvd/

Sir,

I am quite unaware of what you are trying to highlight?

Kind Regards,
Mr. BB.

_DTM2000_ · 13th Sep 2006, 15:13

I've always thought this would happen and I hope it does. It's just a shame the 360 didn't have HD-DVD from the beginning as now a doubt HD-DVD games will ever be released for it.

dom_ · 13th Sep 2006, 15:30

I am still going to wait on this one though. I didn't buy into SACD or DVD-A i waited and in the end they killed each other off. I hope a format, be it Blue-Ray or HD-DVD wins this battle rather than mutual assured destruction. When the winner is crowned i will buy into it.

/me kicks Betamax player

CAL3H · 13th Sep 2006, 17:09

As an early adopter, I always expect to be surprised later and fully back the idea of integrating the HD drive into the 360. The only thing that did annoy me was when they were (and prob still are) thinking of offering a discount if some one buys the 360 premium with the external drive at a reduced rate. Early adopters sure shouldnt and wont get integrated drive but I'm damn sure I'm not paying more for the external than some one who buys an 'old' 360 with the external drive.

I will pay 99 pounds for the HD external drive as originally rumoured. Otherwise I'll wait for the Tosh dedicated player to come down. (Not that anyone's listening to my small talk

)

Lazarus Dark · 13th Sep 2006, 17:41

was there ever a doubt that this was coming?
If hd-dvd had been ready in time, they absolutely would have integrated it in the first place, but in order to get a jump on ps3 they refused to wait for it.

CollinstheClown · 13th Sep 2006, 17:50

This was posted on Xbox-Scene, on June 30th...

Quote:

Well ... another false rumor ... the guys at the Team Xbox GamerScoreBlog officially debunked the story of an Xbox360 with internal HD-DVD:

Quote:

Saw a few stories online about an Xbox 360 with a built-in HD DVD drive: not true. We have no plans to release an Xbox 360 with an internal HD DVD. What we showcased at E3 was an external HD DVD drive, and we're sticking with that.

We've always had a games-first emphasis with the Xbox, but some consumers can build on the platform - like by adding a Windows Media Center Edition PC. By keeping the drive external, we're offering consumers a choice in creating their own hi-def experiences. So: no plans for an internal HD DVD.

-CollinstheClown

MidnghtDrgn · 13th Sep 2006, 18:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by CollinstheClown

This was posted on Xbox-Scene, on June 30th...

-CollinstheClown

That was in June, knowing Microsoft, plans have changed 5 times since then.

otispunkmeyer · 13th Sep 2006, 18:25

i've never been bothered about the BR/ HD-DVD thing on consoles really

stand alone players will probably be much better, so if i wanna become a HD movie man ill buy that.

so far i think PS3's BR discs are simply gonna be full of the same game just in different languages...therefore they need only produce one disc, and also region coded games are goners.

i couldnt care any less about the 360's bolt on HD-DVD or even if it comes in the machine. i wont be playing movies on it.

what does worry me though is that the 9GB dvd's will run out of space before the life of the machine is over. i dont want to find out that in 2008 more intricate/diverse games appear because of the extra space HD-DVD allows.

xion · 13th Sep 2006, 18:40

I really dont buy into the integrated home cinema experience in a games console thing, did / does anyone honnestly play DVD's or CD's on their PS2 or Xbox mark1? if i wanted that experience i'd take my player into a wind tunnel and cut half the buttons off the remote...

...i'll wait 'till they're being sold in supermarkets before i buy a HD/BR player anyhoo...

Nikumba · 13th Sep 2006, 19:06

To be honest if in 18 onths from release they add a built in HD-DVD drive so what. You dont go winging to a car dealer when they bring out a new model or even a revised model a year later, so why should you complain about a console

just my tuppence

Speedo · 13th Sep 2006, 20:09

It can only be a good thing, and to be honest it's what i'm waiting for. Bung a HD-DVD inside it, and i'll buy one!

Like many I used the Playstation 2 as a DVD player until the standalone drive costs went down.. even now I use the Xbox or PS2 as a DVD player and relegated the Toshiba to the other room. That is more because I ran out of space around the tv from consoles rather than preferring the quality however!

yahooadam · 13th Sep 2006, 21:37

oh lawd, so is there an option without the unproven drive that will try to force you to change your whole movie collection when it doesn't need it ?

Speedo · 13th Sep 2006, 22:06

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Originally Posted by yahooadam

oh lawd, so is there an option without the unproven drive that will try to force you to change your whole movie collection when it doesn't need it ?

Buy one of the current ones?

I very much doubt they would offer internal HD-DVD drives unless they could include it at a similar price point to the current machines at the time. However I expect Microsoft will wait a while to see how the external drive sells first, then see if it makes economical sense.

It is all speculation though, the external drive isn't even out yet! As many say it's an unproven format with very little media available, and a small take up of HDTVs (in the UK at least). Give it a year, it's bound to appear.

Oh, and how does that *force* you to 'change' your whole movie collection? It does still play DVDs you know!

yahooadam · 14th Sep 2006, 00:08

id rather just have the discount thx

i don't really think HD-DVD/BD is worth it yet, and i'm not going to change my movie collection, as much as Hollywood would like me to

£150 (or something) for a HD-DVD add on, a HD-DVD player is going to raise the price, as said they may shrink the die to compensate - but id rather just have the discount then the HD-DVD drive

Krazeh · 14th Sep 2006, 01:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikumba

To be honest if in 18 onths from release they add a built in HD-DVD drive so what. You dont go winging to a car dealer when they bring out a new model or even a revised model a year later, so why should you complain about a console

just my tuppence

I think it's a big deal because it fundamentally changes the capabilities of the console, it's not like making the chips on a smaller scale to alter the power requirements and heat output. What happens if a couple of years down the line developers decide that HD-DVD's are a good idea for putting games on? Am I supposed to hope that they also put it on multiple DVD's?

orb · 14th Sep 2006, 02:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikumba

To be honest if in 18 onths from release they add a built in HD-DVD drive so what. You dont go winging to a car dealer when they bring out a new model or even a revised model a year later, so why should you complain about a console

just my tuppence

You know theres going to be a new model of the car soon though, they kept on denying they were going to release a HD-DVD internal, so now that they do its made me and a few others(i guess) pretty pissed, after giving them 800 euros because my first 360 broke and now i get this

thanks

13th Sep 2006, 14:33	#1
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BioSniper I Mod, Therefore I Own Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Somewhere in the south Posts: 3,460	Oh my. So many people are really going to have a proper hissy fit over this one. Still its just rumor and not fact so who knows. I for one think its a good idea however it will really put those who already have one's noses out of joint. I would be expecting some kind of rebate plan or similar but it's unlikley they would offer such a scheme (and realistically why should they? I guess they will see it as it was the early adopters choice). __________________ My Flickr :: Bit-tech Flickr Wii: 1792 1527 2926 7945 :: Xbox Live: BioSnipr :: PSN: Biosnipr

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Solidus Superhuman Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: England Posts: 1,646	lol this would be a big influence to many people, even me in favour of buying an xbox. __________________ I'm a n00b in need of constant h3lp! Xbox Live GT: Mephestic PSN Tag: M3phestic Twitter: Mephestic

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Lazarus Dark Supermodder Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: US Memphis, TN Posts: 292	was there ever a doubt that this was coming? If hd-dvd had been ready in time, they absolutely would have integrated it in the first place, but in order to get a jump on ps3 they refused to wait for it. __________________ My gun kata is greater than your kung fu.

13th Sep 2006, 15:13	#6
_DTM2000_ Senior Super Douche Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Sheffield, UK Posts: 229	I've always thought this would happen and I hope it does. It's just a shame the 360 didn't have HD-DVD from the beginning as now a doubt HD-DVD games will ever be released for it.

13th Sep 2006, 15:30	#7
dom_ ---> Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: uk, south east Posts: 3,936	I am still going to wait on this one though. I didn't buy into SACD or DVD-A i waited and in the end they killed each other off. I hope a format, be it Blue-Ray or HD-DVD wins this battle rather than mutual assured destruction. When the winner is crowned i will buy into it. /me kicks Betamax player

13th Sep 2006, 17:09	#8
CAL3H Minimodder Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: UK Posts: 30	As an early adopter, I always expect to be surprised later and fully back the idea of integrating the HD drive into the 360. The only thing that did annoy me was when they were (and prob still are) thinking of offering a discount if some one buys the 360 premium with the external drive at a reduced rate. Early adopters sure shouldnt and wont get integrated drive but I'm damn sure I'm not paying more for the external than some one who buys an 'old' 360 with the external drive. I will pay 99 pounds for the HD external drive as originally rumoured. Otherwise I'll wait for the Tosh dedicated player to come down. (Not that anyone's listening to my small talk )

13th Sep 2006, 18:25	#12
otispunkmeyer Multimodder Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Middlesbrough UK Posts: 142	i've never been bothered about the BR/ HD-DVD thing on consoles really stand alone players will probably be much better, so if i wanna become a HD movie man ill buy that. so far i think PS3's BR discs are simply gonna be full of the same game just in different languages...therefore they need only produce one disc, and also region coded games are goners. i couldnt care any less about the 360's bolt on HD-DVD or even if it comes in the machine. i wont be playing movies on it. what does worry me though is that the 9GB dvd's will run out of space before the life of the machine is over. i dont want to find out that in 2008 more intricate/diverse games appear because of the extra space HD-DVD allows. __________________ The Otispunkmeyer Mac Attack: Apple MacBook Pro 15.4 inch, 1440x900 glossy LED back lit display, 2.4Ghz Core 2 Duo, 2GB DDR2 667, 160GB 5400RPM SATA HDD, 8x super multi drive, Nvidia Gefore 8600GT 256MB GDDR3, JBL Radial, Dell Ultrasharp 2005FPW 20.1" WS display, Apple wired aluminium keyboard, Apple wireless mighty mouse.

13th Sep 2006, 18:40	#13
xion Multimodder Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: West Mids Posts: 160	I really dont buy into the integrated home cinema experience in a games console thing, did / does anyone honnestly play DVD's or CD's on their PS2 or Xbox mark1? if i wanted that experience i'd take my player into a wind tunnel and cut half the buttons off the remote... ...i'll wait 'till they're being sold in supermarkets before i buy a HD/BR player anyhoo... __________________ "No keyboard found: Press F1 to continue..."

13th Sep 2006, 19:06	#14
Nikumba Supermodder Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The Dark Place Posts: 371	To be honest if in 18 onths from release they add a built in HD-DVD drive so what. You dont go winging to a car dealer when they bring out a new model or even a revised model a year later, so why should you complain about a console just my tuppence

13th Sep 2006, 20:09	#15
Speedo Minimodder Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Warwickshire, UK Posts: 46	It can only be a good thing, and to be honest it's what i'm waiting for. Bung a HD-DVD inside it, and i'll buy one! Like many I used the Playstation 2 as a DVD player until the standalone drive costs went down.. even now I use the Xbox or PS2 as a DVD player and relegated the Toshiba to the other room. That is more because I ran out of space around the tv from consoles rather than preferring the quality however!

13th Sep 2006, 21:37	#16
yahooadam Ultra csavarkulcs Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: UK Posts: 1,323	oh lawd, so is there an option without the unproven drive that will try to force you to change your whole movie collection when it doesn't need it ?

14th Sep 2006, 00:08	#18
yahooadam Ultra csavarkulcs Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: UK Posts: 1,323	id rather just have the discount thx i don't really think HD-DVD/BD is worth it yet, and i'm not going to change my movie collection, as much as Hollywood would like me to £150 (or something) for a HD-DVD add on, a HD-DVD player is going to raise the price, as said they may shrink the die to compensate - but id rather just have the discount then the HD-DVD drive