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solidusTr · 3rd Oct 2006, 07:49

dont know if this actually counts as a problem but yeah me and my friend want to build a server basically for lan purposes and maybe later upgrade so far we have a budget of 380pounds excluding casing is this even viable as we feel we are way over our heads here please recommend any components the ones with th best bang for good buck

hitman012 · 3rd Oct 2006, 08:01

Please don't make duplicate threads. It's easier to keep all the replies in one place

dire_wolf · 3rd Oct 2006, 13:04

So is it just going to be for running game servers?

If so, check out this thread :here:

to get a good idea on whats available for the budget you have.

If it's for serving files to a small lan then you're not going to need a majorly fast computer, a very basic spec with integrated graphics and a few large HDDs in a RAID setup will do the trick

Take a look at this article if you haven't already as it goes into great depth on what you will and wont need (to basically spend your money as efficiently as possible) :here:

solidusTr · 3rd Oct 2006, 20:54

Ahh i see sorry for moving am a newbie here thanx whats the most important thing about a gaming server and where should i focus the bulk of my money towards ram, processor or harddrives cos i hear the new raptors with 10K rpm where really good as well thanx for the help so far

solidusTr · 3rd Oct 2006, 21:00

read the article on the cheap home server that seems great and all but its specified as a network server and web server and file server but no specifics on it as a music server will it still function well enough

dire_wolf · 3rd Oct 2006, 21:34

same difference, if you want to use it as a music server then it doesn't have to have any particular multimedia talents, all it's doing is sending mp3s over ethernet, just make sure you have enough disk space

Ramble · 3rd Oct 2006, 21:53

You don't need much, I used to run a web server/proxy server/game server/FoH client all at the same time with no probs (on an Athlon XP).

Got pretty toasy though, with 100% CPU all the time.

solidusTr · 3rd Oct 2006, 23:27

could i run a raptor hardrive and a sata 2 hardrive in raid setup like it says i should do and put all the game installations on the raptor and other files and music on the sata 2

tom_goodyear · 3rd Oct 2006, 23:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by solidusTr

could i run a raptor hardrive and a sata 2 hardrive in raid setup like it says i should do and put all the game installations on the raptor and other files and music on the sata 2

That wouldn't be in RAID then. It would be silly to put a Raptor in RAID with a 7200rpm drive anyway.

I really don't think a Raptor is necessary for your usage.

FaiNT` · 4th Oct 2006, 10:59

Plus Raptors are actually slower than some SATA-II drives in all departments (namely Samsung Spinpoints).

tom_goodyear · 4th Oct 2006, 11:14

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Originally Posted by FaiNT`

Plus Raptors are actually slower than some SATA-II drives in all departments (namely Samsung Spinpoints).

Not true.

DougEdey · 4th Oct 2006, 11:30

Spinpoints rape raptors.

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/storag...2=124&chart=31

solidusTr · 5th Oct 2006, 20:39

wow thats awesome that hmm il look into that for my next media drive thanx for the help so far

FaiNT` · 5th Oct 2006, 22:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by tom_goodyear

Not true.

No, it is true, read above link =)

wharrad · 5th Oct 2006, 22:23

Isn't that benchmark just the theoretical interface speed? I.E. SATA II is technically faster than SATA I.... but if you look at the transfer rates, the Raptors are far faster.

MidnghtDrgn · 5th Oct 2006, 23:43

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Originally Posted by wharrad

Isn't that benchmark just the theoretical interface speed? I.E. SATA II is technically faster than SATA I.... but if you look at the transfer rates, the Raptors are far faster.

Nothing theoretical about it, those are actual tested benchmarks.

bubsterboo · 5th Oct 2006, 23:54

Samsung make amazing hdds! amoung other things...

bubsterboo · 5th Oct 2006, 23:57

Wow, those are cheap
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...436189&CatId=0

Makes those raptors look like a ripoff!

r4tch3t · 6th Oct 2006, 00:19

Heh a sata 300 drive, but with an IDE interface? Perplexing?
For the server, it relly depends on what its used for. Most can get away with low power everything, and spend the extra on HDD space.

tom_goodyear · 6th Oct 2006, 00:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by FaiNT`

No, it is true, read above link =)

That single test is the interface speed which the Spinpoint wins because it's SATA300 and the Raptor is SATA150. That doesn't make a lot of difference to real world performance since even the maximum sustained transfer is well under 100MB/s. In all the other tests the Raptor comes out faster.

3rd Oct 2006, 07:49	#1
solidusTr What's a Dremel? Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 5	first lan server dont know if this actually counts as a problem but yeah me and my friend want to build a server basically for lan purposes and maybe later upgrade so far we have a budget of 380pounds excluding casing is this even viable as we feel we are way over our heads here please recommend any components the ones with th best bang for good buck

3rd Oct 2006, 08:01	#2
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3rd Oct 2006, 13:04	#3
dire_wolf Revelation Machine Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: UK Posts: 2,172	So is it just going to be for running game servers? If so, check out this thread :here: to get a good idea on whats available for the budget you have. If it's for serving files to a small lan then you're not going to need a majorly fast computer, a very basic spec with integrated graphics and a few large HDDs in a RAID setup will do the trick Take a look at this article if you haven't already as it goes into great depth on what you will and wont need (to basically spend your money as efficiently as possible) :here: __________________ "Don't Fear Citizens! TAD KNOWS HIS RAID!" E7400\|HD5770\|Viewsonic VX2260WM\|Asus Xonar D2X\|4GB Dominator\|Samsung F3 1TB\|Gigabyte GA-EP43-S3L

3rd Oct 2006, 21:34	#6
dire_wolf Revelation Machine Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: UK Posts: 2,172	same difference, if you want to use it as a music server then it doesn't have to have any particular multimedia talents, all it's doing is sending mp3s over ethernet, just make sure you have enough disk space __________________ "Don't Fear Citizens! TAD KNOWS HIS RAID!" E7400\|HD5770\|Viewsonic VX2260WM\|Asus Xonar D2X\|4GB Dominator\|Samsung F3 1TB\|Gigabyte GA-EP43-S3L

3rd Oct 2006, 21:53	#7
Ramble Ginger Nut Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Exeter, Devon/Wantage, Oxfordshire Posts: 5,286	You don't need much, I used to run a web server/proxy server/game server/FoH client all at the same time with no probs (on an Athlon XP). Got pretty toasy though, with 100% CPU all the time. __________________ Kirk, Spock, McCoy, and Ensign Ricky are beaming down to the planet. Guess who's not coming back.

3rd Oct 2006, 20:54	#4
solidusTr What's a Dremel? Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 5	Ahh i see sorry for moving am a newbie here thanx whats the most important thing about a gaming server and where should i focus the bulk of my money towards ram, processor or harddrives cos i hear the new raptors with 10K rpm where really good as well thanx for the help so far

3rd Oct 2006, 21:00	#5
solidusTr What's a Dremel? Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 5	read the article on the cheap home server that seems great and all but its specified as a network server and web server and file server but no specifics on it as a music server will it still function well enough

3rd Oct 2006, 23:27	#8
solidusTr What's a Dremel? Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 5	could i run a raptor hardrive and a sata 2 hardrive in raid setup like it says i should do and put all the game installations on the raptor and other files and music on the sata 2 Last edited by solidusTr; 3rd Oct 2006 at 23:33. Reason: type error

4th Oct 2006, 10:59	#10
FaiNT` Multimodder Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UK Posts: 229	Plus Raptors are actually slower than some SATA-II drives in all departments (namely Samsung Spinpoints).

4th Oct 2006, 11:30	#12
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5th Oct 2006, 20:39	#13
solidusTr What's a Dremel? Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 5	wow thats awesome that hmm il look into that for my next media drive thanx for the help so far

5th Oct 2006, 22:23	#15
wharrad Hypermodder Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Burford, Oxfordshire Posts: 866	Isn't that benchmark just the theoretical interface speed? I.E. SATA II is technically faster than SATA I.... but if you look at the transfer rates, the Raptors are far faster. __________________ Jimmy Carr - "It's easier to get forgiveness than permission"

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5th Oct 2006, 23:57	#18
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6th Oct 2006, 00:19	#19
r4tch3t hmmmm.... Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 2,923	Heh a sata 300 drive, but with an IDE interface? Perplexing? For the server, it relly depends on what its used for. Most can get away with low power everything, and spend the extra on HDD space. __________________ Fight my Brute The quantum limit of reality might be scaled up because we're all holograms. Obviously. Once more we see that sufficiently advanced physics is indistinguishable from getting really stoned. From here