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WilHarris · 18th Oct 2006, 09:30

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/10..._with_viruses/

bubsterboo · 18th Oct 2006, 09:34

"As you might imagine, we are upset at Windows for not being more hardy against such viruses, and even more upset with ourselves for not catching it."

How can they bash windows after doing something like this?
This is rather disgusting...

DougEdey · 18th Oct 2006, 09:36

Why are you bashing Apple for this? Its not the only time problems have happened with MP3 players.

Does anyone remember the 10,000 MP3 players that McDonalds gave out as competition prizes?

Oh yeah, and remember the Creative debacle?

This is simply a problem from virus writers and hackers getting into manufacturing plants. Manufacturing plant problem (probably Foxconn for Apple)

BioSniper · 18th Oct 2006, 09:46

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Originally Posted by DougEdey

Why are you bashing Apple for this? Its not the only time problems have happened with MP3 players.

Does anyone remember the 10,000 MP3 players that McDonalds gave out as competition prizes?

I was just about to mention that one

mclean007 · 18th Oct 2006, 10:21

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Originally Posted by DougEdey

Why are you bashing Apple for this? Its not the only time problems have happened with MP3 players.

Does anyone remember the 10,000 MP3 players that McDonalds gave out as competition prizes?

Oh yeah, and remember the Creative debacle?

This is simply a problem from virus writers and hackers getting into manufacturing plants. Manufacturing plant problem (probably Foxconn for Apple)

Irrelevant. Apple is the company whose brand is on the product, and it is Apple's reputation that is on the line. Apple owes a duty of care to its customers, and that means avoiding things like this, whether by better quality control or tighter software programming. It strikes me as odd that any code on the player's harddrive should ever have cause to be copied to system memory and executed - that is a fault with iTunes, for which Apple is most definitely directly responsible.

Additionally, to bash MS for allowing Windows to have such flaws is pretty underhand. Poor show, Apple.

jjsyht · 18th Oct 2006, 10:36

Well... if some disgusted employee(who's at the end of the production line) wants to fcks apple, its more efficient to put a windox virus that a mac mac one.

L2wis · 18th Oct 2006, 11:08

indeed, i've been completely obliovious to this happening and never heard of such a thing... rofl that'd be awful to be caught by one. Esp if you didn't really have much computing knowledge.

Darkedge · 18th Oct 2006, 11:54

another example why Apple is NOT the nice guys so many people think.. one of the LEAST green computer companies and seem to have even LESS concern for their users than MS.

Jobs is the next Hitler I tell you

Meanmotion · 18th Oct 2006, 12:43

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Originally Posted by bubsterboo

"As you might imagine, we are upset at Windows for not being more hardy against such viruses, and even more upset with ourselves for not catching it."

How can they bash windows after doing something like this?
This is rather disgusting...

Couldn't agree more. It's not even mildly amusing, its just sad.

DarkReaper · 18th Oct 2006, 12:57

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Originally Posted by mclean007

It strikes me as odd that any code on the player's harddrive should ever have cause to be copied to system memory and executed - that is a fault with iTunes, for which Apple is most definitely directly responsible.

Seconded - how does that work, then? Surely all data should be flowing downstream?

riggs · 18th Oct 2006, 13:30

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Originally Posted by bubsterboo

How can they bash windows after doing something like this?
This is rather disgusting...

They might as well have said "we are sorry, but if you run Windows then it's your own fault".

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Originally Posted by Darkedge

obs is the next Hitler I tell you

Yes! I'm not the only one that thinks he's an evil genius! There's just something about him that screams 'megalomaniac'.

Techno-Dann · 18th Oct 2006, 15:12

You'll note that on the Apple press release, there's no "We're sorry". They allow virii to get onto their hardware somewhere, and then don't even have the good grace to apologise for it.

Risky · 18th Oct 2006, 16:40

I also think that when your acknowledging that you potentially screwed up a load of customers' PCs, maybe it's not the time to be the smartalec.

dragontail · 18th Oct 2006, 16:45

Oh great, whats next, M$ shipping a virus with vista?

Malfoleo · 18th Oct 2006, 16:56

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Originally Posted by dragontail

Oh great, whats next, M$ shipping a virus with vista?

They don't need to, vista is a virus all on it's own.

(the above was a JOKE)

DreamTheEndless · 18th Oct 2006, 17:25

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Originally Posted by DarkReaper

Seconded - how does that work, then? Surely all data should be flowing downstream?

the ipod is an external hard drive and your computer sees it as such. If there is a virus on a hard drive connected to your computer there is nothing itunes can do about it.

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Originally Posted by Darkedge

another example why Apple is NOT the nice guys so many people think.. one of the LEAST green computer companies and seem to have even LESS concern for their users than MS.

Jobs is the next Hitler I tell you

how could you possibly say that apple is one of the least green computer companies? Do you believe everything you read on the internet without EVER BOTHERING TO LOOK INTO IT?

Also - if a virus gets added to the iPod disk image at a third party (not apple) factory, how does that make Steve Jobs into Hitler? (Check the link - you people need it.)

DarkReaper · 18th Oct 2006, 17:37

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Originally Posted by DreamTheEndless

how does that make Steve Jobs into Hitler? (Check the link - you people need it.)

Damn, I missed a chance to call Godwin's

Tyinsar · 18th Oct 2006, 18:11

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Originally Posted by mclean007

Irrelevant. Apple is the company whose brand is on the product, and it is Apple's reputation that is on the line. Apple owes a duty of care to its customers, and that means avoiding things like this, whether by better quality control or tighter software programming. It strikes me as odd that any code on the player's harddrive should ever have cause to be copied to system memory and executed - that is a fault with iTunes, for which Apple is most definitely directly responsible.

Additionally, to bash MS for allowing Windows to have such flaws is pretty underhand. Poor show, Apple.

Quoted for Truth

Bad form Apple

Nexxo · 18th Oct 2006, 18:30

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Originally Posted by Darkedge

another example why Apple is NOT the nice guys so many people think.. one of the LEAST green computer companies and seem to have even LESS concern for their users than MS.

Jobs is the next Hitler I tell you

Funny, people say the same thing about Microsoft and Gates?

Fophillips · 18th Oct 2006, 18:33

You lot do realise it was because of a Windows box on the production line that infected the iPods? They're not telling people that it's their own fault if they use Windows, they are saying that because of Windows being used to manufacture iPods it has become infected.

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