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WilHarris · 24th Jan 2007, 10:32

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/01...el_making_gpu/

Mister_Tad · 24th Jan 2007, 10:34

Simply awesome.

Would be great to have another big player in the game, especially with a monstrosity like Intel backing it

DougEdey · 24th Jan 2007, 10:35

This'll be directed to compete against FireGL/Quaddro I think.

Mister_Tad · 24th Jan 2007, 10:38

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This'll be directed to compete against FireGL/Quaddro I think.

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Intel is working on creating an add-in graphics board for high-end gamers, it has been revealed.

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Create next-gen graphics and gaming experiences

DougEdey · 24th Jan 2007, 10:39

Doesn't mean it's not aimed at workstations, the game development systems at our Uni use Quattros I think, and Quattros can be modified to be FX.

unrealhippie · 24th Jan 2007, 10:40

Hitting back at AMD

Well, competition is great for us, and intel certainly has the money.

xrob · 24th Jan 2007, 11:31

lol DougEdey shh.

This can only be a good thing. And clearly isnt aimed at purely the workstation market.

Veles · 24th Jan 2007, 11:32

We might possibly get some high end cards that actually run without needing stupid amounts of power.

More competition is always good, drives tech forward a bit faster, wouldn't mind seeing a C2D megagrafix edition

r4tch3t · 24th Jan 2007, 11:51

This can only be a good thing... for the consumer/us. With three major brands, we will have more choice. And as Veles says, possibly we won't need a small power station to power our rigs.

specofdust · 24th Jan 2007, 12:01

Little concerned here tbh. I dislike consolidation of businesses like this, I don't believe it's good for the consumer. What consolidation? You may be asking - Nvidia can't last though, not against AMD and Intel. I imagine if Intel really goes for this Nvidia will be gone in 5-10 years, leaving us with just Intel or AMD for mobo chipsets, graphics cards, and processors. Such a thing can not be good for us, the consumers.

r4tch3t · 24th Jan 2007, 12:06

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Originally Posted by specofdust

Little concerned here tbh. I dislike consolidation of businesses like this, I don't believe it's good for the consumer. What consolidation? You may be asking - Nvidia can't last though, not against AMD and Intel. I imagine if Intel really goes for this Nvidia will be gone in 5-10 years, leaving us with just Intel or AMD for mobo chip sets, graphics cards, and processors. Such a thing can not be good for us, the consumers.

Oh... hadn't thought of that, and nVidia is my favorite GFX maker, best drivers.
But think of all the extra money that will go into R&D for graphics. I wonder what the performance differences will be between the Intel QX9x9XXX (To continue naming trends) on AMD and Intel CPU's.

EDIT: What do you think the naming convention will be for these?

GigantoR · 24th Jan 2007, 12:10

This is gonna sound like a conspiracy theory, but I work for an electronics distributor and just took an order the other day for some normal and low profile dvi-based pci express cards to be delivered to intel. I'd been wondering what they might be for.

AndyFielder · 24th Jan 2007, 12:22

Got any guesses on time scales??

ralph.pickering · 24th Jan 2007, 12:26

I'd suspect that Intel will probably 'optimize' their (read: cripple competitors) processors and chipsets for their graphics processors and vice versa. Which would leave us with the choice of ATI graphics with an AMD processor, or an all Intel solution. And possibly nVidia may enter the CPU market and make an all nVidia solution. None of which will work well with each other.

I don't like it at all...

mmorgue · 24th Jan 2007, 12:41

I don't mind competition, choice and variety -- hell, it's what drives innovation. However what worries me is that another big player thrown into the works could create a new divide whereby game devs, once again, optimize their software for brand X.

I hate the idea that, I've gone and picked up a top of the range Nvidia grafix card, only to see the new game is "Intel Insided!" or something. Much like the ATI vs Nvida days of Quake, HL2, etc..

yakyb · 24th Jan 2007, 12:47

i personnaly think that this has been coming for a while however whether Nvidia will survive or not depends on a few things firstly will AMD/intel be allowed to make GPUs that are only compatible with with their own processors? now my knowledge of corporate Law isnt that great but this would seem like an infraction similar to the Microsoft ordeal with I.E but third player esspecially with the size of intel is great news for us.

hmm seeing as they are applying for engineers maybe Nvidia engineers will see where this is heading and move over to Intel? then intel could Buy out Nvidia when there is not much of it left.

i do however think that this is good news for smaller devices as the GPU CPU could be put onto one chip making for improved efficiencies etc (not that it really interests me all that much i just want my phone to call people)

kempez · 24th Jan 2007, 12:50

Intel are pretty behind ATI + NV (as far as understanding and knowledge of GPU technology) right now but I see them bridging the gap very quickly.

Could mean the death of choice, but it could also mean a market driven forward by a big company adding their skills to the mix.

Time will tell I suppose

ch424 · 24th Jan 2007, 13:23

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Originally Posted by GigantoR

This is gonna sound like a conspiracy theory, but I work for an electronics distributor and just took an order the other day for some normal and low profile dvi-based pci express cards to be delivered to intel. I'd been wondering what they might be for.

That, or they're going to use them to drive monitors? Just maybe?

perplekks45 · 24th Jan 2007, 14:00

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That, or they're going to use them to drive monitors? Just maybe?

Would be nice to have another big name in the game. And I honestly don't think nVidia will go bankrupt because of Intel's move. They seem to be big enough to compete.

ChromeX · 24th Jan 2007, 14:26

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Intel are pretty behind ATI + NV (as far as understanding and knowledge of GPU technology) right now but I see them bridging the gap very quickly.

Erm they hold a majority share of integrated graphics solution, I'm fairly sure they know how to make a gpu

The Dual-Core Itanium 2 due to be released next year I think, has about 1.7 billion transistors integrated thats the same as 5 7800 GTX's. If intel want a share of the market it would be easy for them to take it they've got the facilities, manpower, expertise and perhaps most importantly the money.

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Mister_Tad Serious about coffee Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Nottingham Posts: 7,556	Simply awesome. Would be great to have another big player in the game, especially with a monstrosity like Intel backing it

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specofdust Banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Aberdeen, UK, EU Posts: 7,609	Little concerned here tbh. I dislike consolidation of businesses like this, I don't believe it's good for the consumer. What consolidation? You may be asking - Nvidia can't last though, not against AMD and Intel. I imagine if Intel really goes for this Nvidia will be gone in 5-10 years, leaving us with just Intel or AMD for mobo chipsets, graphics cards, and processors. Such a thing can not be good for us, the consumers. __________________ Like marmite, only no-one hates it Mmm bop!

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ralph.pickering Supermodder Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: London Posts: 321	I'd suspect that Intel will probably 'optimize' their (read: cripple competitors) processors and chipsets for their graphics processors and vice versa. Which would leave us with the choice of ATI graphics with an AMD processor, or an all Intel solution. And possibly nVidia may enter the CPU market and make an all nVidia solution. None of which will work well with each other. I don't like it at all...

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mmorgue Supermodder Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mos Eisley, in the bar... Posts: 378	I don't mind competition, choice and variety -- hell, it's what drives innovation. However what worries me is that another big player thrown into the works could create a new divide whereby game devs, once again, optimize their software for brand X. I hate the idea that, I've gone and picked up a top of the range Nvidia grafix card, only to see the new game is "Intel Insided!" or something. Much like the ATI vs Nvida days of Quake, HL2, etc..

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