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Old 23rd Mar 2007, 10:45   #1
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Free speech and porn

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/03...eech_and_porn/

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Old 23rd Mar 2007, 10:58   #2
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In order to avoid publicly displaying "porn", wouldn't every site update have to undergo a censorship screening?

Or if I was to embed some porn in this post could bit-tech get sued?
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Old 23rd Mar 2007, 11:17   #3
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The internet is soo vast, that no matter what people do, children and/or adults are eventually going to get around it.

This makes the [www.]______[.xxx] seem like a viable idea once again
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Old 23rd Mar 2007, 11:18   #4
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There should at least be some kind of warning page at the start saying "You must be at least age xx to view this site, enter/exit".

I know there used to be, but sites these days never seem to have them
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Old 23rd Mar 2007, 11:19   #5
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There is if i remember correctly. But hey, when is the last time a teenager told their correct age to get into something?
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Old 23rd Mar 2007, 11:33   #6
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If/when I become a parent, I would like to think that I would have the time for, and interest in my child(ren) to know what they were doing online. Using the excuse of 'we can't expect the parents to look after them' is an enormous cop out - if parents can't be expected to look after their children, then it is a sad society indeed...

...oh, yeah, we're already there...
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Old 23rd Mar 2007, 12:25   #7
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Yeah, I love the guy saying "we can't expect parents to look after their children".
WTF else are they meant to do?
I assume they pay for and provide all the computing equipment, internet connection etc.

As for the .xxx domain, if the stupid govt officials/religious nutbags in power/retards in general would realise its main purpose was to segregate all porn sites to make it easier to prevent access to them and not to promote them, then we may have made some progress in preventing children from accidentally accessing porn.

Not to mention that most children accessing porn on the internet are not doing it by accident!
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Old 23rd Mar 2007, 13:06   #8
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Looks to me like that judge is saying that parents should take responsibility for what thier kids see, is that allowed these days.............? From the things I have seen on tv and out and about, nobody thinks they should be the ones to discipline or take control of anything anymore.
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Old 23rd Mar 2007, 13:32   #9
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Have I been hit on the head too many times or did the judge make no sense at all?

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Perhaps we do the minors of this country harm if First Amendment protections, which they will with age inherit fully, are chipped away in the name of their protection
EDIT: Oh no, it does make sense, but only just.
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Old 23rd Mar 2007, 13:39   #10
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Old 23rd Mar 2007, 14:43   #11
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Yeah, that "Look away if you are under 18" thing really works well. Its almost an impenetrable fortress. All the kid has to do is press "enter", "yes" or what ever it is. Did this law actually do anything? Because is isn't(wasn't) very effective.
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Old 23rd Mar 2007, 15:34   #12
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hell, if I hadn't discovered www.thehun.com when I was 13 I don't know what I would've done

it tided me over until I found a good GF (who I've been with for 2 and half years )
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You know, IIRC, any porn magazine that an adult pays for and keeps in the house is likely to be accessed by children one day. And those children WILL be irreparably damaged by it. The government really needs to regulate all porn that adults pay to bring into the home, not just the porn-capable internet/computer/etc. the adults pay for.

In case you can't tell, I'm being sarcastic. Who here didn't get into somebody else's porn stash before they were 18? Who here was "damaged" by it?

Porn's been in our society and seen by "children" (teenagers up to 17!?) just about forever. Nobody's ever been damaged by seeing a boob. Maybe a child would be traumatized by some nasty goat-rape-feces porn, but so would I, and that's not really the same topic anymore...
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Old 23rd Mar 2007, 16:58   #14
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In case you can't tell, I'm being sarcastic. Who here didn't get into somebody else's porn stash before they were 18? Who here was "damaged" by it?
Well, I'm now a dirty *******
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Well, I'm now a dirty *******

Nice.

...seriously though, I'm assuming by this you mean that you "like women" and like to see them naked, and do naked things with them. Holy crap! Isn't that what men are supposed to do!?! You know, so the species can continue? It wasn't the porn that made you this way, but it was this aspect of human nature that made you like the porn.

Man, if certain politicians and religious nuts had their way, nobody would know about sex or even what the opposite sex was supposed to look like naked until after they were married. And then, they'd have been so sheltered their whole lives they'd have no idea what to do or if one of them had some serious genital deformity (you know, like the woman actually being a man or something...). Nobody would have any idea how to procreate, and the species would end... Thanks religious nutjobs! Way to think things through!

[PS: sorry if I assumed wrong and you're actually a dirty dirty girl...either way, the point holds...]

[PPS: with regard to the species continuing thing, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with homosexuality either. And no, I don't think porn causes gay-ness.]
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HMMM, it says about a fine and being put in jail but nothing about the porn sites being taken down.
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I don't know a single teenage male of age 14 who hasn't seen porn ever...I guess that means every guy in my town between 14-17 is irreparably damaged. Yeah..that argument is ridiculous at best and fascist at worst. It's people who are too lazy to care about their kids saying that its someone else's job to watch them all the time. If you don't have time and energy to raise kids, don't have them.
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There's really nothing worthwhile on the internet for anyone under the age of 12 anyways. If your kids want information they should go to the library.

Can't we just skip the whole thing and make parents liable for once?
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(OT) the internet is for porn "sings" (OT)
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Score one for the first amendment.
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