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WilHarris · 27th Mar 2007, 12:46

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/03...really_exists/

Jamie · 27th Mar 2007, 12:51

I understand why they aren't shipping it with an internal HDVD drive but that kills it for me. I'll wait until they put a HD optical drive in there.

r4tch3t · 27th Mar 2007, 13:18

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Originally Posted by Jamie

I understand why they aren't shipping it with an internal HDVD drive but that kills it for me. I'll wait until they put a HD optical drive in there.

Surely you could mod your own in there?
The only thing that interests me about this is the Black. 120GB is about time they brought out bigger ones, but they still kill you with the price. PS3 has it right with user interchangeable drives of standard size and packaging.

whisperwolf · 27th Mar 2007, 13:20

Unless the've made the elite a lot quieter, I could never use it as a movie player anyway, so not having the hdvd inbuilt is not an issue for me. but why haven't they included wireless. it could not cost that much on wholesale scale.

mmorgue · 27th Mar 2007, 13:35

Yep. Nice looking and if it was my *first* 360, I'd go for it. But seeing as how I already have one (which died, shipped off and an *older* model was sent back!) I cant justify it. As mentioned, no hdrom which i think is a bit of a miss to be honest. Bundling it in with the unit would easily justify a higher cost. And its not going to be your avg 12 yo buying it anywaze.

Still, 360 has a long way to go to match the PS3 build quality, in my opinion. Anyhow, good look to it, i like matte black. Tho I'd simply mod mine if i was really that bothered.

bloodcar · 27th Mar 2007, 13:53

Supposedly, the elite unit is just a limited time deal. However, both the premium and core packs are supposed to be receiving the HDMI upgrade later this year as well as the premium getting the larger hard drive. The black colour though will only be for awhile. Expect to keep paying $400 for the premium package for awhile longer, guys.

@Jamie: The HD-DVD is a double edged sword. Microsoft is afraid of packing in HD-DVD drive inside of the 360 because they don't want a dead format in their console. At the same time though, not packing in the HD-DVD is only helping it lose this format war. There's 10,000,000 360s out and about right now, so that's 10million HD-DVD drives with at around the same number of movies that could be in consumers hands right now.

Bursar · 27th Mar 2007, 14:05

@bloodcar: Do you really think so? At around £130 the HD-DVD is a cheap player (given that you've already paid for the console). If the price of the 360 went up by £100 to include the HD-DVD drive, do you still think they'd have sold 10 million consoles? My money would be saying that no, they wouldn't.

To include another SKU with HD-DVD would only add to confusion in the market place. I'd rather see MS drop the core pack altogether and bundle an HDD with every console. I think that would be much more useful to the gamers (who are the primary market for the console).

Speedo · 27th Mar 2007, 14:27

Looks like the same old console, just black with a bigger hard drive.

If build quality is improved, internal cooling is massively improved (and fan noise minimised as a result), dvd-rom quietened down, and reliability increased by a large factor, THEN I would be interested.

calnen · 27th Mar 2007, 14:33

Looks shiny

And I can see where they're going with the Hard disk - MS have a 20GB drive, then Sony release a 60GB one so MS try to trump them with 120. It'll get funny if they keep this up - who thinks Sony will release a 'special edition' with a 250GB drive within a year?

orb · 27th Mar 2007, 14:35

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Originally Posted by whisperwolf

Unless the've made the elite a lot quieter, I could never use it as a movie player anyway, so not having the hdvd inbuilt is not an issue for me. but why haven't they included wireless. it could not cost that much on wholesale scale.

Man I don't know about you but when I watch movies my 5.1 tends to silence anything

whisperwolf · 27th Mar 2007, 14:42

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Originally Posted by orb

Man I don't know about you but when I watch movies my 5.1 tends to silence anything

It will only silence the 360 in the loudish action parts, quiet poignant pauses tend to be a bit ruined due to the jet engine whine. If I upped my 5.1 to continually drown out the xbox my downstairs neighbours might complain just a smidgen.

r4tch3t · 27th Mar 2007, 14:45

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Originally Posted by calnen

who thinks Sony will release a 'special edition' with a 250GB drive within a year?

Why would they do that? You can upgrade it yourself without the ridiculous markup in price. Not like the 120GB drive for the 360, $200, a 120GB drive by itself can be had for $80, so if you wanted your XBox 360 normal to have 120GB you have to pay an extra $200 to get it. That puts it in the realm of the PS3 with a 60GB. Plus if you want it to match the PS3 you have to shell out for a HDDVD player, Wireless adaptor etc. So in effect the PS3 becomes cheaper.

kempez · 27th Mar 2007, 14:48

Of course if you buy the HD-DVD drive then that's almost silent. God knows why they can't source a quieter DVD player

One thing the PS3 deffo has going for it is that you hardly hear it

topher · 27th Mar 2007, 15:16

Will their be a cable that will allow me to plug this one into my 30" dell monitor?

kempez · 27th Mar 2007, 15:33

Yep there's a few HDMI > DVI cables about

www.cableuniverse.co.uk

Veles · 27th Mar 2007, 16:41

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Originally Posted by Speedo

Looks like the same old console, just black with a bigger hard drive.

If build quality is improved, internal cooling is massively improved (and fan noise minimised as a result), dvd-rom quietened down, and reliability increased by a large factor, THEN I would be interested.

With HDMI remember, and also quite possibly a die shrink, which means a cooler and more efficient CPU, so the heat output would be less. This would mean the 360 is running cooler, so the reliability will be improved, and quite possibly the fans would be quieter.

They've also already brought out new DVD drives, the newer batches of 360s are a lot quieter than the old ones.

Bursar · 27th Mar 2007, 16:55

It's been reported that these won't have the 65nm CPU in them.

wafflesomd · 27th Mar 2007, 17:02

Who cares about a new iteration.

Where's the damn price drop.

Neogumbercules · 27th Mar 2007, 20:56

I'm never gonna use HDMI (in the near future, at least) so I'm not gonna worry about the Elite. I'm kinda pissed about the bigger hard drive though. I remember back at launch I was the only one saying that 20GB's wasn't enough and of course I was called this and that.

devdevil85 · 27th Mar 2007, 21:07

$479 (The Xbox 360 Elite) + $200.98 (HD-DVD Add-on w/ shipping @ newegg) = $679.98!!!

Oh, and don't forget $94.98 (Wireless LAN Adaptor w/shipping @ newegg) and $44.98 (Xbox Live Gold 12-month subscription card w/ shipping @ newegg) which would make it $819.94.

PS3 Premium = $599

Besides the 120GB HD, the PS3 offers all of that in one package for almost $220 less.

For all of the people calling the PS3 a rip-off.... explain that...

27th Mar 2007, 12:46	#1
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27th Mar 2007, 12:51	#2
Jamie bit-tech Staff Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 7,620	I understand why they aren't shipping it with an internal HDVD drive but that kills it for me. I'll wait until they put a HD optical drive in there. __________________ bit-tech hosted by tsohost.co.uk twitter \| flickr \| xbox live \| last.fm \| moot

27th Mar 2007, 13:20	#4
whisperwolf Ultramodder Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 1,194	Unless the've made the elite a lot quieter, I could never use it as a movie player anyway, so not having the hdvd inbuilt is not an issue for me. but why haven't they included wireless. it could not cost that much on wholesale scale. __________________ "I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it. " Voltaire. My Flickr

27th Mar 2007, 13:53	#6
bloodcar Mod Master Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mentor, OH Posts: 2,133	Supposedly, the elite unit is just a limited time deal. However, both the premium and core packs are supposed to be receiving the HDMI upgrade later this year as well as the premium getting the larger hard drive. The black colour though will only be for awhile. Expect to keep paying $400 for the premium package for awhile longer, guys. @Jamie: The HD-DVD is a double edged sword. Microsoft is afraid of packing in HD-DVD drive inside of the 360 because they don't want a dead format in their console. At the same time though, not packing in the HD-DVD is only helping it lose this format war. There's 10,000,000 360s out and about right now, so that's 10million HD-DVD drives with at around the same number of movies that could be in consumers hands right now. __________________ <+DougEdey> you getting PGR4 mitmit? <mitmit> not me, Geoff is probably wanking like a lepper at the thought of it though

27th Mar 2007, 14:05	#7
Bursar Hypermodder Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 700	@bloodcar: Do you really think so? At around £130 the HD-DVD is a cheap player (given that you've already paid for the console). If the price of the 360 went up by £100 to include the HD-DVD drive, do you still think they'd have sold 10 million consoles? My money would be saying that no, they wouldn't. To include another SKU with HD-DVD would only add to confusion in the market place. I'd rather see MS drop the core pack altogether and bundle an HDD with every console. I think that would be much more useful to the gamers (who are the primary market for the console). __________________ www.philspcmods.com - a rough guide

27th Mar 2007, 13:35	#5
mmorgue Supermodder Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mos Eisley, in the bar... Posts: 378	Yep. Nice looking and if it was my first 360, I'd go for it. But seeing as how I already have one (which died, shipped off and an older model was sent back!) I cant justify it. As mentioned, no hdrom which i think is a bit of a miss to be honest. Bundling it in with the unit would easily justify a higher cost. And its not going to be your avg 12 yo buying it anywaze. Still, 360 has a long way to go to match the PS3 build quality, in my opinion. Anyhow, good look to it, i like matte black. Tho I'd simply mod mine if i was really that bothered.

27th Mar 2007, 14:27	#8
Speedo Minimodder Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Warwickshire, UK Posts: 46	Looks like the same old console, just black with a bigger hard drive. If build quality is improved, internal cooling is massively improved (and fan noise minimised as a result), dvd-rom quietened down, and reliability increased by a large factor, THEN I would be interested.

27th Mar 2007, 14:33	#9
calnen moo!! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Durham uni or Leicester Posts: 1,139	Looks shiny And I can see where they're going with the Hard disk - MS have a 20GB drive, then Sony release a 60GB one so MS try to trump them with 120. It'll get funny if they keep this up - who thinks Sony will release a 'special edition' with a 250GB drive within a year? __________________ This sig is not a cake.

27th Mar 2007, 14:48	#13
kempez modding again! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: England Posts: 1,102	Of course if you buy the HD-DVD drive then that's almost silent. God knows why they can't source a quieter DVD player One thing the PS3 deffo has going for it is that you hardly hear it __________________ I don't like streets of rage - make fun of me! My Main PC: Intel Q6600 D0 @ 3.6GHz \| abit IP35 Pro \| 8gb OCZ ReaperX PC6400 @ 1000MHz \| MSI 8800GTX \| OS Drive: Hitachi Deskstar 250gb \| Tagan 1100w \| Silverstone TJ09S \| Noctua NH-U12P Project Aqua Vitae Project <<\| Black3d \|>>

27th Mar 2007, 15:16	#14
topher SHam! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: northern ireland Posts: 44	HDMI Will their be a cable that will allow me to plug this one into my 30" dell monitor? __________________ toph

27th Mar 2007, 15:33	#15
kempez modding again! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: England Posts: 1,102	Yep there's a few HDMI > DVI cables about www.cableuniverse.co.uk __________________ I don't like streets of rage - make fun of me! My Main PC: Intel Q6600 D0 @ 3.6GHz \| abit IP35 Pro \| 8gb OCZ ReaperX PC6400 @ 1000MHz \| MSI 8800GTX \| OS Drive: Hitachi Deskstar 250gb \| Tagan 1100w \| Silverstone TJ09S \| Noctua NH-U12P Project Aqua Vitae Project <<\| Black3d \|>>

27th Mar 2007, 16:55	#17
Bursar Hypermodder Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 700	It's been reported that these won't have the 65nm CPU in them. __________________ www.philspcmods.com - a rough guide

27th Mar 2007, 17:02	#18
wafflesomd Hypermodder Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 987	Who cares about a new iteration. Where's the damn price drop. __________________ http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/1466/goldie.gif

27th Mar 2007, 20:56	#19
Neogumbercules Ultramodder Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,494	I'm never gonna use HDMI (in the near future, at least) so I'm not gonna worry about the Elite. I'm kinda pissed about the bigger hard drive though. I remember back at launch I was the only one saying that 20GB's wasn't enough and of course I was called this and that. __________________ Abit AB9 Pro, Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 CPU, 2GB Corsair DDR2 6400, nVidia 8800GT, Seagate 160 GB HDD.

27th Mar 2007, 21:07	#20
devdevil85 Hypermodder Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: US of A Posts: 884	$479 (The Xbox 360 Elite) + $200.98 (HD-DVD Add-on w/ shipping @ newegg) = $679.98!!! Oh, and don't forget $94.98 (Wireless LAN Adaptor w/shipping @ newegg) and $44.98 (Xbox Live Gold 12-month subscription card w/ shipping @ newegg) which would make it $819.94. PS3 Premium = $599 Besides the 120GB HD, the PS3 offers all of that in one package for almost $220 less. For all of the people calling the PS3 a rip-off.... explain that... Last edited by devdevil85; 27th Mar 2007 at 21:38.