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Old 3rd Nov 2009, 11:59   #41
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To a certain extent Brown, like Obama, was handed a poisoned challice.....

Frankly, I think Brown has done rather well under the circumstances......
I couldnt agree more with them 2 statements, Brown was screwed when he got the job but what major mistakes has he caused by himself? I cant name 1.

Personally i dont vote as they refuse to let me vote no confidence in any party. But if i was forced to labour would get my vote.
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Old 3rd Nov 2009, 12:13   #42
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I couldnt agree more with them 2 statements, Brown was screwed when he got the job but what major mistakes has he caused by himself? I cant name 1.

Personally i dont vote as they refuse to let me vote no confidence in any party. But if i was forced to labour would get my vote.
no im afraid hes to blame for alot of things, he was still at the high powered end of govenment even before he became primeminister
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So why don't we do away with representation by MP's and install voting consoles next to the TV's in every household. After the X Factor, or similar, we could all cast our votes on national issues. We could even use an X Factor style format One way to shake the country up!
A very frightning scenario - john and edward style politicians would be the result, incapable of running the local car park never mind the country. The failure of current politicians is no reason to replace one bad system with a worse one?
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I couldnt agree more with them 2 statements, Brown was screwed when he got the job but what major mistakes has he caused by himself? I cant name 1.

Personally i dont vote as they refuse to let me vote no confidence in any party. But if i was forced to labour would get my vote.
His current cannabis balls up is one, expenses another.
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His current cannabis balls up is one, expenses another.
The current cannabis balls up is not his. It's johnson's. D'you honestly think that every single decision made by a government minister is personally OK'd by the PM? Secondly, the expenses claims scandal goes back years, and exists throughout the spectrum of political parties. It's not very realistic to blame it solely on a man who's only been in office for a couple of years, and who personally took a pay freeze and has pushed for pay freezes in parliament, not to mention rejecting his (rather large) pension on moral grounds.
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The current cannabis balls up is not his. It's johnson's. D'you honestly think that every single decision made by a government minister is personally OK'd by the PM? Secondly, the expenses claims scandal goes back years, and exists throughout the spectrum of political parties. It's not very realistic to blame it solely on a man who's only been in office for a couple of years, and who personally took a pay freeze and has pushed for pay freezes in parliament, not to mention rejecting his (rather large) pension on moral grounds.
Gordon browns religious viewpoint was the driving force behind the reclassification of cannabis &
I'd prefer a secular evaluation of this than his.
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lets not forget that positive action from Brown and Darling saved the world economy from complete meltdown. While the US was crippled with indecision and infighting they took the decision to inject money into the banks which forced the US to do the same.

Brown might have messed up a lot of things but that is one he got epically right and he does not get enough credit for.
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I'm not at all sure about that. I think that the opinion of the Daily Mail reader is the driving force. Votes mean prices.
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