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Old 8th Apr 2012, 20:19   #221
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Anyone can do their own thing but I do see a lot of bad mods, very few impress me and it isn't always the watercooled MDPC mods.
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Old 8th Apr 2012, 20:23   #222
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I think the problem is that people have become far too obsessed with their e-peen rather than with what they are actually producing...

There are a vast number of people who seem more interested in taking edgy, somewhat out of focus, depth of field-y photographs of mind numbingly expensive hardware with an obscenely priced camera and light set-up than actually cutting a case up. I’m all for good photography in a mod, but it becomes a bit much when we get 10 different photos of the same part in its box. And, yes, I do enjoy the occasional ridiculously budgeted project with screamingly over the top hardware, but I think it’s not right when the hardware in effect becomes the actual mod. I’d rather have an archaic system and amazing case than the other way around any day.

I think a single photo of the hardware going into the mod, or a photo of each piece as its used is typically sufficient, otherwise it just becomes a parts gallery. We know that you’re proud of what you’re using, but it becomes over the top very quickly. If you’re modding the motherboard etc, then that different, but if its going in stock, we all know what a motherboard looks like, I’d rather see more pictures of your designs, ideas or how you cut this / painted that for example.

I will try not to bring up my lamentable hatred of individually sleeved cables into this as it will drag me into a murderous rage from which I won’t quickly recover, but I’ll just say I don’t like them, and think they have been done to absolute death. And the same goes for compression fittings in water cooling. They were cool when Nexxo first used them 7 odd years ago, but Im bored with them now. We get the point, you can make a funny man from sticking them all together, now go cut something with a Dremel please.

Having said all this, there are new ideas coming in, im happy to see people building desks that are designed with a pc inside again, they have always been one of my favourite enclosure ideas, but have not yet been done to death. I appreciate we all take ideas from previous mods, I mean, my first one was a direct rip of Coolmiester’s Wavemasters, by shoving a dual radiator in the top, and then my second used the same radiator placement a Leeum’s Moondust, but I didn’t copy every single idea/part of that project. I feel like nearly every single water cooled TJ-07 is just a lame copy of the MurderMod chassis. I know they hit a real niche market with it, and I appreciate all the work that goes into making one yourself, but I don’t feel they have a single gram of individualism in them. I know people will argue that they used a different colour scheme or put their mid plate cuts in a different place, but its still fundamentally the same thing.

I guess someone will be saying ‘oh look, pot calling kettle black’, and yes, to a point you’re correct, but 5 years ago I never felt that certain cases/ideas were being done to death (well, 8mm Aquatuning stuff to a point). I guess that could be because modding is now far reaching, and has a far wider audience than before. I just feel in that happening, a proportion of the silliness and inventiveness has disappeared. I haven’t seen someone shove an ITX board into anything stupid for ages now, and I somewhat miss it.

Again, this is my two pennies, but Im just bored with black Lian Li’s or Silverstones with individually sleeved cables, watercooling with compression fittings and the odd bit of colour, posted with a bajillion edgy photos in a log, and don’t really consider it worth my time viewing any more, as it feels like ‘been there, seen it, got the t-shirt’ now…
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I agree with you, Mankz, that the "parts gallery" worklogs get to the point of skipping over. I'm there for the meat of the modding. I can just as well go to NewEgg or Scan if I want to look at a parts catalog. A single aggregate shot of the hardware to be used or as you say as it is used will suffice.

It seems modding in general goes through trends as new parts, technology and ideas come into play. The more widespread availability of CNC and laser-cutting means more individuals will make use of those methods. I suspect as 3-D printing comes into its own we will see an increasing number of mods incorporating those parts.

It would be nice to see more mods making use of more organic and found objects to accomplish their goals. Bit-tech and other forums reach a good percentage of the tech-oriented public, we could well see some new individuals with revolutionary ideas move to the forefront. Who knows what we might see in the coming months? Can you tell I have hope?
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I'm starting up a new project soon and I'm considering not posting it here on bit-tech. Being different has its consequences. Not building a water-cooled gaming rig is almost certain death. My last project, Aerodyne, was hardly even noticed. Over two-thirds of the project log views came after it was finished and those came from external links instead of bit-tech regulars. Was it because it sucked? Subsequent events say otherwise.

Is BT less receptive of change and differences than it has been in the past? I wince at the idea of presenting something new and radical here. The silence is often deafening.
I see all good points in these comments. I am coming back to B-T after an absense and playing catchup with the mods. There is indeed a need for modders(maybe us and some of the older hands) to reintroduce the idea of NOT building a clone of a Million Dollar PC mod.

I still have miniITX boards and even 2 picoITX computers to use in mods. I am doing one now with a full size ATX because I never owned one.

There is still room on B-T for some out of the box thinking. Look at Atilla.

Skip - bring it here.
Mankz - build for us and we will comment
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Old 9th Apr 2012, 01:06   #223
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Thanks, John!

Skip and Mankz, please do continue. It's one thing to have expensive kit in a mod, but what really makes a mod stand out for me is craftsmanship. Also, when presented with a "problem" some modders come up with ingenious solutions and some ideas are downright clever. Those are the things that excite me. I may not be able to live up to that myself, but I'll give it a go.

The beauty of modding is the individuality and the sky is the limit as far as materials which can be used. Perhaps it is time for more people to "think outside the box."
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Old 9th Apr 2012, 04:36   #224
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@ Skip & Kayin. I can understand that you guys may not be happy with the attention your work may generate. I primarily put project logs up here as a record of what I've done. But over the years I've been fortunate to get a fair bit attention for my work. So if for some reason interest in a project dropped off, I can't say that I wouldn't care about that. But I'd still post up project logs. If you really are having fun with what you are doing, then it shouldn't matter too much. As long as some people are checking out your work. I always follow you guys though I may not often comment.

It's plain wrong to say that 'only' works of a certain ilk get all the attention, Watercooled, MDPC like, gaming PC, latest hardware, well almost anything you care to name. Works of all sorts gain much attention and build large followings. In fact people here generally love to see things that are different and 'left of centre'. Have a look at Gnu's build, I think it's called 'get a life'. This is a small, air cooled HTPC and it doesn't even have a graphics card so it's not even a 'gaming' build. A guy built a case that looked like something from the Inca empire and had a good reception as well. Achrons beautiful, and very 'different' project called Acronym, how different do want to get. One thing you will notice is that quality is very important to how your work will be received. That includes quality of concept and design as well as build quality. If you're making parts that are shabby and don't fit properly, then attention to your build will drop off rapidly (No, I'm not talking about you guys).

So if you guys stop posting here I will be very disappointed. But you gotta do what you gotta do. I'll look around and find you where ever you pop up.
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Old 9th Apr 2012, 06:46   #225
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Old 9th Apr 2012, 17:10   #226
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I very rarely notice/care about the hardware... Only when it's something interesting, like someone making a custom water block, modding the actual hardware, or something like that do I really pay attention to the hardware... I don't think to myself "this mod is good because they have 12 GPUs and 6 CPUs with tons of RAM". I can't afford to get thousands of dollars worth of hardware, nor do I get any sponsorship (and frankly don't really care to) so my hardware will likely be underwhelming for many people. I enjoy the craftsmanship and processes involved in modding and scratch builds.

I also view every single log as they pop up as having new posts as well ... maybe it's OCD for not wanting colored bars

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Old 9th Apr 2012, 17:40   #227
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I'm not leaving Bit, my hands are too damaged to work on another PC after this one. I just have to accept that I'm sick. It's not an easy thing to admit, but when I get up and take a handful of pills, and to even get to sleep I take a handful of pills, and they do stuff like slow my heart down and keep my ulcers from perforating my stomach I'm forced to admit I'm no longer in as good a shape as I was even five years ago.

I intend to stick around and pass on what I know. I'm not quitting cause I'm mad (far from it, this PC is loads of fun even if nobody commented) but because the nerve damage is simply too great to be able to cut a straight line for much longer. Views are nice, and comments are nicer, but in the end the reward is I get to keep this thing.

I have followed (and commented on) Get a Life, and Acronym as well, but I wonder if both builds wouldn't have done better a few years ago. One does wonder about the state of things when you roll out fully bulletproof sides (as well as taking the time and money to track down the real deal plates and Kevlar) and it's met with "meh." But, I'm doing this build for me, not for them. And at the end of the day, I'm fulfilling my design goals. I'm bringing as much of KITT as possible to life. If people don't think that's cool, oh well. Maybe they'll like my wife's upcoming build.
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Old 9th Apr 2012, 20:55   #228
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Am I the next Atilla, L3P or Bill Owen? probably not. Do i want to be them, why not? who wouldn't want to be famous.
But how did they get their fame? by working hard, posting project logs and sharing their visions and ideas.

Normally, if i was modding, I'd not bother writing stuff down, taking pictures. i'd just do it, make mistakes or bad choices and in the end, wonder if i could have done things differently. Joining Bit-tech, I've learned the value of logging. it's a good way of slowing yourself down and checking your work, reducing the number of mistakes made. re-reading a project log, you can remind yourself on how far you've gone, reminding yourself on what's left to be done. searching out other people's logs helps solve problems you may be experiencing with your mod.

The main thing about the logs, are the readers. the feedback. the 2nd opinion that may highlight a design flaw, or commend you on a well thought out solution to a problem. They are the morale boost that keeps me going.
Anybody that posts in a log of mine, i check their sig to see if they have any projects of their own linked. even if it's something out of the scope of what i'm working on, it's inspiration.

However, the lack of comments always bother me. it'd bother anyone really. posting a big update to your log, only to be met with silence. sure, if you pay attention, the total views will go up. but the lack of actual feedback casts doubts in my mind, always.
"am i doing a good job?"
"Is this no longer interesting to anyone?"
"is it not 'extreme modication' for people?"
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I'd kill for even a post of 'Meh' on my log, at least it gives me an option to change thinking, try something else.
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Am I the next Atilla, L3P or Bill Owen? probably not. Do i want to be them, why not? who wouldn't want to be famous.
But how did they get their fame? by working hard, posting project logs and sharing their visions and ideas.

Normally, if i was modding, I'd not bother writing stuff down, taking pictures. i'd just do it, make mistakes or bad choices and in the end, wonder if i could have done things differently. Joining Bit-tech, I've learned the value of logging. it's a good way of slowing yourself down and checking your work, reducing the number of mistakes made. re-reading a project log, you can remind yourself on how far you've gone, reminding yourself on what's left to be done. searching out other people's logs helps solve problems you may be experiencing with your mod.

The main thing about the logs, are the readers. the feedback. the 2nd opinion that may highlight a design flaw, or commend you on a well thought out solution to a problem. They are the morale boost that keeps me going.
Anybody that posts in a log of mine, i check their sig to see if they have any projects of their own linked. even if it's something out of the scope of what i'm working on, it's inspiration.

However, the lack of comments always bother me. it'd bother anyone really. posting a big update to your log, only to be met with silence. sure, if you pay attention, the total views will go up. but the lack of actual feedback casts doubts in my mind, always.
"am i doing a good job?"
"Is this no longer interesting to anyone?"
"is it not 'extreme modication' for people?"
etc...
I'd kill for even a post of 'Meh' on my log, at least it gives me an option to change thinking, try something else.
I want to be famous like them
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