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Old 1st May 2012, 16:18   #21
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Don't go VAG (Volkswagon, Audi, Skoda, Seat) they don't deserve there bullet proof reputation. PLus they're almost all over priced

You want a cheap car to run go for a Vauxhall Corsa or if you want to be very cheap get an old clean 1l 16v Micra, fun cars but dirt cheap and never break. You can pick up really good ones for like £700.
Micra = K11, no newer as they have french parts that are incredibly unreliable.
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Old 1st May 2012, 16:35   #22
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Japanese? I thought they were French? The other downside is that other people will care what it looks like.
Designed in Japan, assembled in Sunderland. But the people who care what my car looks like aren't me - so I have very little to worry about. It's big, safe, comfortable, and has enough space to cart around the epic amount of stuff required for a small child!

My other car is a Kia Cee'd. Go figure

Both 1 owner from new, both very uncool, both built to last.
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Designed in Japan, assembled in Sunderland. But the people who care what my car looks like aren't me - so I have very little to worry about. It's big, safe, comfortable, and has enough space to cart around the epic amount of stuff required for a small child!

My other car is a Kia Cee'd. Go figure

Both 1 owner from new, both very uncool, both built to last.
Due to the renault - nissan aliance many new cars share design/parts also.

It was also prbably designed all around the world
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Focus 1.6 LX 5Door I am getting It has alot of miles on but its very cheap, and my borther has had the engine checked and its fine apparantly, so that will do me for a while - and for £665 its not really too bad - brother rates and all :P

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Old 2nd May 2012, 06:41   #25
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Focus 1.6 LX 5Door I am getting It has alot of miles on but its very cheap, and my borther has had the engine checked and its fine apparantly, so that will do me for a while - and for £665 its not really too bad - brother rates and all :P

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You will love it my dad has 1 with no problems what so ever my dads is an 05 plate...
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Micra = K11, no newer as they have french parts that are incredibly unreliable.
My K12 Micra is indestructible! It's done 69K now, it's serviced of course, but other than that, abused. So far, the most reliable car I've ever had. The worst problem was a broken door handle, and a sticky ignition switch (apparently a common fault).
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Focus 1.6 LX 5Door I am getting It has alot of miles on but its very cheap, and my borther has had the engine checked and its fine apparantly, so that will do me for a while - and for £665 its not really too bad - brother rates and all :P

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Can't really go wrong with Ford.

Apparently the Toyota Yaris is getting pretty popular. Pity they're souless.
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Lots of Ford love. They are a decent motor, suggest treading careful if you look at anything 06 diesel onwards with a DPF filter, ie the 1.6tdci Focus. Stay clear.
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diesel onwards with a DPF filter, ie the 1.6tdci Focus. Stay clear.
The invention of the DPF ruined the diesel engine.
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Surely it depends on how it's been driven though? Little old lady running down to the shops and back will ruin it, someone doing decent miles with good runs on the motorway etc will keep it cleaned up and decent?

If it does go wrong it can't be that hard to remove and have the ECU programmed to ignore it surely?

Every time I've read someone's account about DPF failure it's been because they drive like a minicabber for the vehicle's life, never letting the revs get up high on longer runs to let the regeneration cycle complete.
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The invention of the DPF ruined the diesel engine.
qft

adds nothing but expense for the owner with no rewards other than reduced tax due to the stupid tax system they have in place now.

When the Mrs was looking for a car to buy, she was actively told by salesmen that unless you go 70 down the motorway on a semi regular basis a small modern diesel was more trouble than its worth with dpf issues.

A salesman for both Vauxhaull and Ford said this!
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So why is this a surprise? Have we become so lazy and blinded by mpg figures and 18" alloy wheels that we can't pick a car to suit our purpose anymore?

More shocking news coming from car manufacturers today; a pickup truck doesn't make the best city car. Nissan have also confirmed that their new electric car, the Note, isn't the best choice for a 200 mile daily commute.
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QFT. The engines that used to be built like tanks are now fragile little things. I really feel for those who bought a car with a DPF that only do city driving.
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My K12 Micra is indestructible! It's done 69K now, it's serviced of course, but other than that, abused. So far, the most reliable car I've ever had. The worst problem was a broken door handle, and a sticky ignition switch (apparently a common fault).
My K12 is destructible. I had to mod a new bootswitch, replace the thermostat and I still have a fault with very lumpy idling and cutting out when the revs drop too low (it doesn't stall, it just coasts). It usually only happens when pulling up to a junction and changing down gear - I've never had this problem before on any other car I've driven (and I've driven a few, mind). The trouble is, it could be the idle control valve, which means a new throttle body. It could be the idle control solenoid that's sticking, it could be the fuel injector fuse. It also squeals while braking. Sometimes when the car 'boots up' it works brill, it feels responsive. Mainly when it starts up it doesn't seem to have that extra bit of hoof, and then sometimes you can feel the extra bit of hoof kick in, going up a hill for example in third sometimes you can feel it kick in (it's not like nitro, this is a 1.2 petrol remember!)

Other than that though, when it's working, it's great
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The ICV is an integral part of the TB? That sounds a bit mad. I'd give the solenoid a clean up with some carb cleaner and see if that helps, then change that fuse.

The Mrs' Focus has a couple of interesting quirks - one is an occasionally faulty ICV/ICV connection, the other is a yet-undetermined cause of it randomly not wanting to start after cold nights. No-one's sure whether it's a sticky valve or what, and it's a pretty rare issue.
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Unfortunately, when it comes to the noisy bit under the bonnet regarding which bit performs whatever function, I am absolutely clueless. The most technical things I've done are to fill up the screenwash reservoir and change a tyre - and I chipped a bone doing that as the wheel brace flew off and hit my thumb.

And yes, the icv is built into the throttle body, it is crazy. I only know that much from reading other forums, if someone handed me the part and said what it was, I'd have to believe them.
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