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mattyh1995 · 9th May 2012, 11:55

Currently, i'm 17 and in college working towards game design. Since I chose the wrong subjects for my 1st year, I want to know what sort of stuff I should learn (Basics of difference programming languages.etc) for developing simple 2d games on iOS.

I already have some very basic knowlege of programming from the courses on codeacademy.com - I just want to know what sort of stuff I should end up researching to get into this career.

faugusztin · 9th May 2012, 12:11

Well you will need to know the technologies used with iOS - that means Objective C, Cocoa, you will need to know how to use OS X, Xcode as iOS development is possible only with OS X.

BentAnat · 9th May 2012, 12:41

^^ that
To answer likely upcoming questions:
1) No, I don't think you can code for iOS in windows.
2) No, I don't think there's a free apple developers thingy... it costs money annually.

faugusztin · 9th May 2012, 13:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by BentAnat

2) No, I don't think there's a free apple developers thingy... it costs money annually.

Sorta. AFAIK you can download iOS SDK for free, but you will have to get the $99/year developer subscription to be able to publish your apps.

BentAnat · 9th May 2012, 13:31

ah... this might be so....hmm... consider me as speaking under correction

faugusztin · 9th May 2012, 13:38

Quote:

Licensing

The SDK itself is a free download, but beta SDKs require a paid developer account. In order to release software, one must enroll in the iPhone Developer Program—a step requiring payment and Apple's approval. As of January 2010, cost of enrollment in the iPhone Developer Program is US$99 per year (the cost varies from country to country) for the standard program. Signed keys are provided to upload the application to Apple's App Store.

mattyh1995 · 9th May 2012, 14:04

Hmm. Screw that then, my teacher advised I look into it. What about development on windows, like flash games? What sort of knowledge would that need?
Thanks for the responses anyway ^^

faugusztin · 9th May 2012, 14:17

In case of mobile phone application development, your best bet is Android. SDK is free, you can publish apps as APK files for free, and in case of freeware applications you need only one time $25 free to be able to publish on Google Play Store (former Android Market). ADT (Eclipse plugins for Android development) are free as well, programming language for Android is pretty much Java + XML.

In case of Flash, you need Adobe Flash Professional or other flash authoring tool :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_F...uthoring_tools
Never bothered with Flash, so i can't help you with this.

BentAnat · 9th May 2012, 14:33

HTML5+Javascript = mobile games on most mobile browsers, and playable offline...

mattyh1995 · 9th May 2012, 14:50

Thanks faugusztin I'll check that out ^^

TheManicGibbon · 13th May 2012, 21:55

Students can also get 1 years free access to the Windows Phone App Hub, and through either your college or uni's MSDN or Dreamspark, you can get all the tools you need for that for free.

Hope this helps!

azrael- · 14th May 2012, 19:45

If you can't get the necessary tools for free through your school or through DreamSpark you can always download the Visual Studio Express edition of your favourite flavour, C#, C++, VB et al.

Or specifically for writing games there's XNA Game Studio. This one also lets you target Windows Phone 7.

Guinevere · 14th May 2012, 20:09

You should also investigate cross platform tools such as phonegap. If this is going to be your career (or be linked to it) then you should learn as much you can about as much you can.

Doesn't mean you need to learn C,C++,Ruby,Java etc etc but you should at least aim to learn the differences between the options and which uses which.

9th May 2012, 11:55	#1
mattyh1995 Supermodder Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Leigh, Wigan, United Kingdom Posts: 487	n00b alert: What do I need to know for iOS development? Currently, i'm 17 and in college working towards game design. Since I chose the wrong subjects for my 1st year, I want to know what sort of stuff I should learn (Basics of difference programming languages.etc) for developing simple 2d games on iOS. I already have some very basic knowlege of programming from the courses on codeacademy.com - I just want to know what sort of stuff I should end up researching to get into this career. __________________ \| Intel Core i7 2600k \| ASUS Maximus IV Extreme-Z \| 2x4GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 @ 1600mhz \| \| MSI GTX580 Twin Frozr II \| \| 64GB OCZ Agility 3 + 2TB Storage \| CM Storm Stryker \| Corsair TX750 PSU \| Asus Xonar DX \| Acer G245HQ \| \|Steam - [UK] Holcroft\|

9th May 2012, 12:11	#2
faugusztin I am the guy with two left hands Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bratislava, Slovakia Posts: 4,706	Well you will need to know the technologies used with iOS - that means Objective C, Cocoa, you will need to know how to use OS X, Xcode as iOS development is possible only with OS X. __________________ Cerberus Core i7-2600K Asus P8Z77-I Deluxe GSkill RipjawsX 2x8GB DDR3-1600CL9 watercooled EVGA GTX670 Samsung 830 256GB Bitfenix Prodigy Seasonic X-460 Windows 8 Pro Prometheus Xeon E3-1235 Asus P8B WS GSkill RipjawsX 2x4GB DDR3-1333CL7+2x8GB DDR3-1333CL9 Coolink Corator DS Force 3 240GB+4xWD30EFRX+2xWD20EARS+6xWD20EARX Nanoxia DS1 Seasonic X-460 Ubuntu 12.04

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mattyh1995 Supermodder Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Leigh, Wigan, United Kingdom Posts: 487	Hmm. Screw that then, my teacher advised I look into it. What about development on windows, like flash games? What sort of knowledge would that need? Thanks for the responses anyway ^^ __________________ \| Intel Core i7 2600k \| ASUS Maximus IV Extreme-Z \| 2x4GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 @ 1600mhz \| \| MSI GTX580 Twin Frozr II \| \| 64GB OCZ Agility 3 + 2TB Storage \| CM Storm Stryker \| Corsair TX750 PSU \| Asus Xonar DX \| Acer G245HQ \| \|Steam - [UK] Holcroft\|

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9th May 2012, 14:17	#8
faugusztin I am the guy with two left hands Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bratislava, Slovakia Posts: 4,706	In case of mobile phone application development, your best bet is Android. SDK is free, you can publish apps as APK files for free, and in case of freeware applications you need only one time $25 free to be able to publish on Google Play Store (former Android Market). ADT (Eclipse plugins for Android development) are free as well, programming language for Android is pretty much Java + XML. In case of Flash, you need Adobe Flash Professional or other flash authoring tool : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_F...uthoring_tools Never bothered with Flash, so i can't help you with this. __________________ Cerberus Core i7-2600K Asus P8Z77-I Deluxe GSkill RipjawsX 2x8GB DDR3-1600CL9 watercooled EVGA GTX670 Samsung 830 256GB Bitfenix Prodigy Seasonic X-460 Windows 8 Pro Prometheus Xeon E3-1235 Asus P8B WS GSkill RipjawsX 2x4GB DDR3-1333CL7+2x8GB DDR3-1333CL9 Coolink Corator DS Force 3 240GB+4xWD30EFRX+2xWD20EARS+6xWD20EARX Nanoxia DS1 Seasonic X-460 Ubuntu 12.04

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BentAnat Software Dev Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Windhoek, Namibia Posts: 5,620	HTML5+Javascript = mobile games on most mobile browsers, and playable offline... __________________ Property in Namibia \| Find Jobs in Namibia \| Events Namibia

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azrael- I'm special... Join Date: May 2008 Location: Aarhus, Denmark Posts: 3,758	If you can't get the necessary tools for free through your school or through DreamSpark you can always download the Visual Studio Express edition of your favourite flavour, C#, C++, VB et al. Or specifically for writing games there's XNA Game Studio. This one also lets you target Windows Phone 7. __________________ It's not the end of the world ...but you can see it from here. Xeon E3-1245 v2 3.4 GHz \| ASUS P8C WS \| 16GB Kingston ECC DDR3 \| Samsung 830 256GB \| eVGA GTX670 2GB \| SB Audigy \| Seasonic X-560 \| Corsair Obsidian 550D \| Dell 2209WA

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Guinevere Mega mom Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,390	You should also investigate cross platform tools such as phonegap. If this is going to be your career (or be linked to it) then you should learn as much you can about as much you can. Doesn't mean you need to learn C,C++,Ruby,Java etc etc but you should at least aim to learn the differences between the options and which uses which.