News Samsung launches Series 9 Quad HD IPS PLS monitor

[Elton]

Originally Posted by streetuk

Go walk into an Apple store tomorrow and compare the matte Macbook Pro's with a glossy Macbook Pro. Once you do you will understand why monitor makers feel the need to make everything glossy.

Why? Matte screens are brighter, but their usability is terrible. Any amount of sunlight ruins it. This might be why I stand by using eizo and NEC monitors almost exclusively.

[3lusive]

Originally Posted by Elton

Why? Matte screens are brighter, but their usability is terrible. Any amount of sunlight ruins it. This might be why I stand by using eizo and NEC monitors almost exclusively.

You mean glossy. The reason is because it definitely does reduce the contrast and vibrancy of the display, once a matte coating is applied.

I have seen a glossy Apple Cinema and it does have amazing blacks and contrast which comparable IPS matte displays can't get near, and if I could be bothered to manage the light better I probably would prefer glossy over matte because of this reason.

However, I think a semi-glossy or very light matte coating is an excellent compromise.

[Elton]

Originally Posted by 3lusive

You mean glossy. The reason is because it definitely does reduce the contrast and vibrancy of the display, once a matte coating is applied.

I have seen a glossy Apple Cinema and it does have amazing blacks and contrast which comparable IPS matte displays can't get near, and if I could be bothered to manage the light better I probably would prefer glossy over matte because of this reason.

However, I think a semi-glossy or very light matte coating is an excellent compromise.

Yes I meant glossy. By the way, most screens actually require a certain contrast setting to get the full gamut out. That said, the reason I can't stand glossy is the need to turn them up extremely bright to wash out the excess light. For me, I can't use extremely bright screens because of the eye strain. Hence my need to stick with matte monitors.

[3lusive]

Or just shut the curtains . I know, though, I hate glossy displays as a general rule because they pick up too many reflections, and it's too difficult/annoying to manage the lighting in order to get a good experience all day round.

However, if it was possible to handle the light better, I would consider getting one. I was extremely impressed with the quality of the Apple I saw, and in a pitch black room it was gorgeous to look at.

[streetuk]

Originally Posted by Elton

Yes I meant glossy. By the way, most screens actually require a certain contrast setting to get the full gamut out. That said, the reason I can't stand glossy is the need to turn them up extremely bright to wash out the excess light. For me, I can't use extremely bright screens because of the eye strain. Hence my need to stick with matte monitors.

It's obviously a personal choice then. I just felt that the glossy pro display was far more vibrant and the matte was grainy and dull (but still a good display). Just prefer glossy. I do hate seeing my reflection in my iPad though.

Interesting (whoever said "close your curtains") I find my matte Dell U27W11 to be far too bright on most settings besides 0. Sites like Facebook and Google Reader just wreck my retina.

[3lusive]

I meant close your curtains to prevent reflections on glossy displays.

I agree with you though. I also hate the dullness that thick matte coatings create, like the ones found on the Ultrasharps and many IPS displays. If people could see what they looked like without the coating, like you can for this U2711 that's had it's AG removed, or this U2312HM which has also had it removed, I think people would realise how much the coatings dull the overall vibrancy of the image.

I don't believe there's ever a need for that much coating (and thus that much nerfing of the display's contrast and vibrancy), which is why I prefer semi-glossy, but if I had to take a choice between the two I would still have to pick matte because reflections can destroy everything.

This is all the AG coating is:

[The_Beast]

The worst monitor: glossy TN


The best monitor: matte IPS(or similar)

[3lusive]

^In your opinion.

I missed the 'or similar' part (ninja edit? lol), but anyway some people do prefer glossy regardless of display type. I think some people on here would would choose PVA over IPS, name beginning with P (and I agree with him).

[streetuk]

Originally Posted by 3lusive

I meant close your curtains to prevent reflections on glossy displays.

I agree with you though. I also hate the dullness that thick matte coatings create, like the ones found on the Ultrasharps and many IPS displays. If people could see what they looked like without the coating, like you can for this U2711 that's had it's AG removed, or this U2312HM which has also had it removed, I think people would realise how much the coatings dull the overall vibrancy of the image.

I don't believe there's ever a need for that much coating (and thus that much nerfing of the display's contrast and vibrancy), which is why I prefer semi-glossy, but if I had to take a choice between the two I would still have to pick matte because reflections can destroy everything.

This is all the AG coating is:

I know, what I meant was it's ironic that my matte requires the curtains to be open to tone down the brightness of the screen whereas a glossy you have to close it. Odd that we can't have the best of both worlds (maybe your links above are the best of both worlds, I'm assuming they're people who've removed the matte on the U2711, not looked yet...not sure i want to in case i end up doing it! )

[3lusive]

The vids and pics don't show the best of both worlds. They just show two matte IPS having their AG removed, but once this happens they are fully glossy displays.

In fact the U2711 and Apple Cinema use the same LG panel, so without its AG layer it is essentially an Apple Cinema.

The only way to get the best of both worlds is this: to get glossy but manage the light to get very minimal reflections, but also no contrast nerf. Or buy semi glossy for no reflections and only slight contrast nerf.

The problem with full mate, or heavy as it's sometimes called, is that it doesn't block anymore reflections than semi, but nerfs the vibrancy and contrast even more.

In reality though there are very few displays which offer semi gloss. Samsung's PLS one does though.

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[Guinevere]

Originally Posted by Gareth Halfacree

3840x2160 (which, interestingly, Wikipedia calls Quad HD, despite calling it QFHD elsewhere.)

Quick someone call wikipedia and tell him he got such a key detail wrong! How dare he charge us for the information and then get his acronyms wrong!

I'm well fed up with wikipedia, I very much doubt I'll renew my subscription this year!

It's about time the whole site was replaced with some sort of crowd sourced alternative approach. That way when such mistakes are spotted they could be discussed and corrected by anyone. Of course you'd have to lock it down 'a bit' to prevent abuse of key pages, but imagine the possibilities that would exist in an online encyclopaedia the likes of you or I could contribute to!

[Gareth Halfacree]

Originally Posted by Guinevere

[...] imagine the possibilities that would exist in an online encyclopaedia the likes of you or I could contribute to!

Yes, imagine. Without professional input and editorial oversight, it'd be riddled with small but confusing errors! Oh, wait...

[GonzoRIP]

finally getting some decent high res screens for the desktop. id kill for that resolution at 24"

[3lusive]

Originally Posted by GonzoRIP

finally getting some decent high res screens for the desktop. id kill for that resolution at 24"

What's wrong with 3 extra inches?