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Gareth Halfacree · 13th Nov 2012, 09:46

Windows 8 acts as Sinofsky's swansong.
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/bits/20...ofsky-leaves/1

sniperdude · 13th Nov 2012, 10:00

jumping the sinking ship.

windiows 8 fail
windows home servers fail

both due to not listening or asking what customers want.

dolphie · 13th Nov 2012, 10:11

Sign offsky.

Gareth Halfacree · 13th Nov 2012, 10:17

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Originally Posted by dolphie

Sign offsky.

Man, why didn't *I* think of that for a tagline?

Sub-particle 0.76 · 13th Nov 2012, 11:04

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Originally Posted by sniperdude

jumping the sinking ship.

windiows 8 fail
windows home servers fail

both due to not listening or asking what customers want.

The BIG boss should go too for that methink no scratch that, be gone he must

dolphie · 13th Nov 2012, 12:17

Bloodburgers · 13th Nov 2012, 12:44

Because it was too obvious? Causing your editorial skills to come into question.

Griffter · 13th Nov 2012, 14:07

finally, the face of the devil! create **** and chaos and leave.

XXAOSICXX · 13th Nov 2012, 19:46

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Originally Posted by sniperdude

jumping the sinking ship.

Jumping before pushed, methinks.

Er-El · 13th Nov 2012, 23:58

Traitor. How could he?

azrael- · 14th Nov 2012, 05:26

Even though I'm thrilled to see Sign-off-sky (kudos to dolphie) leave (mainly thanks to the Windows 8 fiasco), I'm less thrilled having Julie Larson-Green taking over the reins. No offence, but the female gender tends to favour shiny over useful to a much larger degree than its male counterpart. There's a reason for the phrase "wife acceptancy factor", after all.

Still, I will withhold final judgment until I see what the Windows team comes up with under her guidance. I really really really want to be proved wrong and shown to be the misogynistic old pig that I surely am...

SexyHyde · 14th Nov 2012, 08:17

I, like the rest of the world, want Ballmer gone! He is largely responsible for the holding back of windows. Now I'm no big windows fan but if it wasn't for DirectX and companies using windows specific software more people would be on linux/osx. The financial secter have been after Ballmer's scalp since Gates left. In all honesty I really can't believe he still has his job.

impar · 14th Nov 2012, 08:33

Greetings!

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Originally Posted by azrael-

No offence, but the female gender tends to favour shiny over useful to a much larger degree than its male counterpart.

The right woman for W8, then.

SazBard · 14th Nov 2012, 14:22

Goodbye mate, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Nexxo · 14th Nov 2012, 14:55

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Originally Posted by azrael-

Even though I'm thrilled to see Sign-off-sky (kudos to dolphie) leave (mainly thanks to the Windows 8 fiasco), I'm less thrilled having Julie Larson-Green taking over the reins. No offence, but the female gender tends to favour shiny over useful to a much larger degree than its male counterpart. There's a reason for the phrase "wife acceptancy factor", after all.

Still, I will withhold final judgment until I see what the Windows team comes up with under her guidance. I really really really want to be proved wrong and shown to be the misogynistic old pig that I surely am...

Yeah, because a woman with a maths degree, business qualifications and a 20-year track record at Microsoft reaching the upper echelons of management must just be a pretty face who likes shiny things. Balmer must just be an idiot who coasts by running a multi-billion software company on pure luck. Sinofsky must just be suddenly bailing on Windows 8 because he had no idea what it was going to be like and he thinks it is rubbish, or being pushed because Balmer was disappointed with it. It was like, he saw Windows 8 for the first time at its launch event and went: "Crap, that looks rubbish! Sinofsky, you're fired!".

I mean, obviously Microsoft has no idea what it is doing. It's not like it is the number one software company or something. It just hires and fires people for no particular reason. It just fundamentally redesigns its number one cash-cow OS just on a whim.

Christ, I despair of this place.

SexyHyde · 14th Nov 2012, 23:17

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Originally Posted by Nexxo

Balmer must just be an idiot who coasts by running a multi-billion software company on pure luck.

There has been a large portion of investors that have wanted Balmer gone for a long time, but Gates always seemed to have his back. Since Gates has gone the calling for him to go is getting larger all the time. It is so widely believed that he is holding the company back that it is now regarded as fact.

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Originally Posted by Nexxo

I mean, obviously Microsoft has no idea what it is doing. It's not like it is the number one software company or something. It just hires and fires people for no particular reason. It just fundamentally redesigns its number one cash-cow OS just on a whim.

Christ, I despair of this place.

Remember when it spent two and a half years on developing it's cash-cow OS just to drop it and start from scratch?
Considering the monopoly it has, the size of its user base, the financial position it is in, why is it four years behind Apple with touch? Why do complaints with user interface in your alpha/beta still make it through to retail? If your trying to have a unified platform why is your 6 month old device (WP7.5) not supported by your new device (Surface)? If people and companies weren't so invested in the windows platform the company would be close to bust now.

Nexxo · 15th Nov 2012, 12:30

And Apple hasn't made strange product choices in the past, or suddenly axed projects? Nothing new under the sun.

It's tricky to run a colossus like Microsoft. That's why the first thing Steve Jobs did when he came back to Apple is streamline its product range and the company. Microsoft may well be doing the same now. It is behind on commercially implementing touch (in the labs it is on a par with, if not ahead of Apple), but it also produced Kinect.

ShinyAli · 15th Nov 2012, 12:58

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Originally Posted by Nexxo

Christ, I despair of this place.

Yep, I've recently decided not to bother replying to a lot of posts, Oh right, I'll keep quiet then

SexyHyde · 15th Nov 2012, 19:04

Yeah suddenly axing products can happen. Although I don't know any company that cancels its primary product after two and a half years. You have to have bad management to plough that long with your primary revenue maker and then decide to can it.

Why is Microsoft so far behind on implementing touch though? It has a large computer base and was the most popular smartphone os before iOS. This should have meant a 6 to 12 month gap if they were ahead in touch. Upto two years if they were on par. I'm not an apple fanboy or windows hater, I'm just pointing out that the leader at Microsoft is absolutely *rubbish* and needs to be replaced. He is always so far of the mark its unreal.

Nexxo · 15th Nov 2012, 19:12

Why? Because nobody wanted it. The technology was not up to it and when Apple released an exquisitely balanced iPad to make up for that lack of power to battery ratio, people moaned that it was "not a real computer". Heck, most people on this forum slated the iPad (see what I did there?

). That has always been Microsoft's target audience: people who want proper mouse-and-keyboard rigs with Windows OS.

As is proved by the same people going into spasms of paroxism at the recent touch-friendly changes in Windows 8.

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Nexxo There is no rep for awesomeness. Moderator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Birmingham, UK Posts: 22,509	And Apple hasn't made strange product choices in the past, or suddenly axed projects? Nothing new under the sun. It's tricky to run a colossus like Microsoft. That's why the first thing Steve Jobs did when he came back to Apple is streamline its product range and the company. Microsoft may well be doing the same now. It is behind on commercially implementing touch (in the labs it is on a par with, if not ahead of Apple), but it also produced Kinect. __________________ "You actually hope to achieve your ideals, I just use mine as an excuse to hate everything" --specofdust "Right wing Republicans, all the murderousness of nut-job Iranian ayatollahs, none of the bearded coolness" --specofdust

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Nexxo There is no rep for awesomeness. Moderator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Birmingham, UK Posts: 22,509	Why? Because nobody wanted it. The technology was not up to it and when Apple released an exquisitely balanced iPad to make up for that lack of power to battery ratio, people moaned that it was "not a real computer". Heck, most people on this forum slated the iPad (see what I did there? ). That has always been Microsoft's target audience: people who want proper mouse-and-keyboard rigs with Windows OS. As is proved by the same people going into spasms of paroxism at the recent touch-friendly changes in Windows 8. __________________ "You actually hope to achieve your ideals, I just use mine as an excuse to hate everything" --specofdust "Right wing Republicans, all the murderousness of nut-job Iranian ayatollahs, none of the bearded coolness" --specofdust

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SexyHyde Supermodder Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 349	Yeah suddenly axing products can happen. Although I don't know any company that cancels its primary product after two and a half years. You have to have bad management to plough that long with your primary revenue maker and then decide to can it. Why is Microsoft so far behind on implementing touch though? It has a large computer base and was the most popular smartphone os before iOS. This should have meant a 6 to 12 month gap if they were ahead in touch. Upto two years if they were on par. I'm not an apple fanboy or windows hater, I'm just pointing out that the leader at Microsoft is absolutely rubbish and needs to be replaced. He is always so far of the mark its unreal.