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Old 15th Nov 2012, 11:14   #1
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Intel's Core i7-3970X Extreme Edition hits the UK

High-performance hex-core chip hits shops.
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Old 15th Nov 2012, 12:05   #2
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hmm... yeah! Good value!
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If it was an 8 core Ivy Bridge I'd be prepared to pay the asking price, but as it is? no thank you.
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Old 15th Nov 2012, 13:07   #5
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I'm still pissed that adopters of 1366 got totally shafted
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Old 15th Nov 2012, 14:36   #7
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I'm still pissed that adopters of 1366 got totally shafted
How???
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1366 has a 6 core cpu that is not alot slower than this just a bit more power usage is its main fault. And its still a hell of alot faster in the tasks its designed for than any ivy or sandy cpu outside of the 6series.
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Old 15th Nov 2012, 15:16   #9
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1366 hex-core chips are still very much in the "high performance" bracket and could easily hold their own against the latest quads in hyperthreaded performance.

I'm surprised that Intel aren't ditching the hex-core stuff as they already have something better?
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If it was an 8 core Ivy Bridge I'd be prepared to pay the asking price, but as it is? no thank you.
Can you imagine the heat? You could probably mount a wok to it and start cooking your Thai green.
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Well, TDP wise, Ivy runs about 20 odd % less than Sandy. Actual power consumption tends to be a little lower than. I think the 3570k NOT overclocked runs about 25% less power then the 2500k also not overclocked in most workloads. That is with slightly higher clocks on the 3570k.

So I'd assume a straight hex core IV-E processor running at, say, 3.7Ghz and maybe 4.2Ghz max TC probably would run around 120w TDP. Going from 6 to 8 cores would up your TDP to 160w.

Ramp back the clock rate slightly, and you are probably at the same 150w TDP with 8 cores for an Ivy Bridge E model running around 3.4-3.5Ghz.

You could similarly get a 6 core chip with around 3.3Ghz clock speeds probably in the 110w TDP range.

Really, I am looking forward to Broadwell. I know Intel is pushing TDPs and general use power consumption lower and lower, which is a good thing, but I really hope with Broadwell, well finally see "mainstream" hexacore processors for desktops at least and octocore for higher end stuff.

Give me quad core ULV processors and hexacore enthusiast desktops (and maybe even a hexacore laptop 45-47w extreme part or something) with octocore high end parts and I'll be a happy, happy boy.
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Old 15th Nov 2012, 18:03   #12
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Old 15th Nov 2012, 18:08   #13
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I'm still pissed that adopters of 1366 got totally shafted
Not sure why that would be. They got the very best at the time and are still very capable now. The socket was left due to intels tick tock strategy, introducing new sockets every couple of years to make way for new features.
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Old 15th Nov 2012, 21:22   #15
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Can you imagine the heat? You could probably mount a wok to it and start cooking your Thai green.
3970X TDP = 150W
3770K TDP = 77W
2x 3770k TDP = 154W
154W minus the parts that don't need to be doubled up (graphics for example) = lower TDP than 3970X.

And the heat isn't really an issue, Ivy Bridge runs hot for two reasons, one: the tiny contact area between the die and the ihs, two: the crappy tim used by Intel.
The contact area would obviously scale pretty much linear with an increased number of cores and the crappy tim, well I'm sure Intel can find something better than what they use in the 3770K, so an eight core Ivy Bridge is far from impossible, there are other reasons why they won't release one.
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Give me quad core ULV processors and hexacore enthusiast desktops (and maybe even a hexacore laptop 45-47w extreme part or something) with octocore high end parts and I'll be a happy, happy boy.
I don't see Intel coming out with mainstream hex- or octa-core mainstream processors for quite a while - why should they bother? Multi-core processors have been around for what, 6-7 years now, and software still hasn't caught up. It's still not terribly common to see mainstream software where more than 2 cores makes a hell of a lot of difference. Toss in another 2 cores for OS processes, etc, and you've still got more processor than you need.

Workstations running professional software are different, obviously, but that's not what Intel's Extreme series are for, really, are they? They're pure e-peen.
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Nevertheless, Intel is positioning the chip as an upgrade for those running the Core i7-3960X chip, offering 200MHz faster stock clock and 100MHz faster Turbo Boost speed, but at a cost of 20W extra on the TDP.

I don't think so!!

Interestingly though (for me any way)... would a 3960X work in a Stormville board? @Bindi... Asus gonna do a top end Stormville board?
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