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Gareth Halfacree · 21st Nov 2012, 10:39

Sealed-loop cooler destined for CES launch.
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardwar...-reserator-3/1

TheStockBroker · 21st Nov 2012, 10:46

400w....

That's not even possible?

steveo_mcg · 21st Nov 2012, 10:48

Why?

(Not an attack, just interested to see why you think it can't dissipate that kind of heat)

Marvin-HHGTTG · 21st Nov 2012, 11:30

400W is possible, but it depends upon the Delta-T they've chosen. If it's 400W at 50°C delta T with 2000rpm, then it's not impressive at all. It does also depend upon the flow rate.

Check the graphs at the bottom of this page for how "proper" 120x3 radiators do with a 10°C delta T and the watts dissipated. The flow rates are probably higher in these examples too, so the 0.4GPM graph is probably most representative. What can be seen is that 120x3 radiators at that flow rate get about 350-400W dissipated at 2000rpm. Assuming that a 120x3 performs 3 times better than a single 120 (which it probably doesn't quite), then Zalman are looking at a pretty large Delta T for 400W...

SchizoFrog · 21st Nov 2012, 11:36

Well it certainly looks good. I wonder if the will bring out a 120x2 version and then all we need is price.

lacuna · 21st Nov 2012, 11:38

My original reserator is still working fine cooling a 3.00ghz P4 and 7950GT (AGP). Its actually been connected for more than 5 years now and I haven't opened it up since fitting it. Thats pretty impressive reliability I think.

B1GBUD · 21st Nov 2012, 12:03

I think it's mad for Zalman to continue the Reserator moniker given how poor their previous XT model performed. The sticking flow rate indicators that would throw the system into an alarm was hopeless, even after replacing the part, mine still had problems. I have to switch mine to manual upon booting up as auto would cause the fan and flow rate to drop to alarm inducing speeds. Even after a de-gunking and fresh coolant.

Hopefully these prove to be more reliable. Their fanless Reserator 2 was excellent (it cooled a Pentium D 945 @ 4ghz + 8800GTX just nicely) and I've only just recently passed it on to a friend.

Any clue as to what coolant will be used? as their blue additive gunked up worse than Porkin's home furnishings.

Edit: shame no 775 socket support

Shirty · 21st Nov 2012, 12:28

I have a Reserator 1 V2 in sat in my cupboard doing nothing, but it happily cooled my old GTX580 heavily OC'd. Is this the sort of thing that people still want to own? The thing with Zalman is that their engineering is usually epic, but the products themselves are often a let down.

dyzophoria · 21st Nov 2012, 12:59

that's one sexy cooling system

gcwebbyuk · 21st Nov 2012, 13:11

I really liked my Reserator - it had a real industrial look to it. I ended up plumbing in an extra radiator for some extra cooling : http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=187355

Dave Lister · 21st Nov 2012, 20:18

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It's interesting that they don't use water like regular water cooling systems !

MrGumby · 21st Nov 2012, 20:35

It's interesting that they don't use water like regular water cooling systems !

I lol'd

Snips · 21st Nov 2012, 20:42

I think it looks ace but I have been known to pick up the occasional bint.

ChaosDefinesOrder · 21st Nov 2012, 20:51

Personally, I think the interesting thing here is that the radiator assembly /appears/ to fit completely into the footprint of a 120 fan. For people with 120 fan mounts that are recessed in some way preventing the installation of standard 120 radiators, this is an improvement!

I only wish it came in a red LED variant...

xxxsonic1971 · 21st Nov 2012, 23:05

The water in this is wetter i wonder??

lilgoth89 · 22nd Nov 2012, 01:06

i wonder if this could be compatible with GPU units ( like the h70 was with custom plates ) id love to see a proper gpu cooling setup similar to the artic cooling one ( albeit without the insane price cost )

Bindibadgi · 22nd Nov 2012, 02:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by lacuna

My original reserator is still working fine cooling a 3.00ghz P4 and 7950GT (AGP). Its actually been connected for more than 5 years now and I haven't opened it up since fitting it. Thats pretty impressive reliability I think.

I hate to think what's grown inside

Wasn't the whole point of the reserators that they were external? I gotta admit the originals were a piece of art to have sitting on your desk/floor.

I ran one for a while waaay back maybe 10 years ago. The blocks were pants but the res/rad/pump was pretty pimp.

docodine · 22nd Nov 2012, 04:03

it's nice that they've put their on twist on the CLC concept, you can tell just by looking at it that it's a zalman based on the shape of the fins

otherwise THIS IS NOT A RESORATOR, why couldn't they have come up with a new name instead of tarnish a known branding with what will likely end up being a sub-par product

lilgoth89 · 22nd Nov 2012, 06:59

acually the Resorator means combined radiator and reservoir...and by the look of it
thats a combined reservoir and radiator XD

and dont dismiss it before you see final cooling numbers..im sure the same thing was said when they demo'd the first tower coolers, the first all in one water coolers etc etc etc

l3v1ck · 22nd Nov 2012, 12:47

Now I can't wait to see the Bit-Tech / Custom PC tests on that!

21st Nov 2012, 10:39	#1
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21st Nov 2012, 11:30	#4
Marvin-HHGTTG Marvin. I don't care what ^ says... Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Maidstone, UK Posts: 1,119	400W is possible, but it depends upon the Delta-T they've chosen. If it's 400W at 50°C delta T with 2000rpm, then it's not impressive at all. It does also depend upon the flow rate. Check the graphs at the bottom of this page for how "proper" 120x3 radiators do with a 10°C delta T and the watts dissipated. The flow rates are probably higher in these examples too, so the 0.4GPM graph is probably most representative. What can be seen is that 120x3 radiators at that flow rate get about 350-400W dissipated at 2000rpm. Assuming that a 120x3 performs 3 times better than a single 120 (which it probably doesn't quite), then Zalman are looking at a pretty large Delta T for 400W...

21st Nov 2012, 11:38	#6
lacuna Supermodder Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: durham, uk Posts: 457	My original reserator is still working fine cooling a 3.00ghz P4 and 7950GT (AGP). Its actually been connected for more than 5 years now and I haven't opened it up since fitting it. Thats pretty impressive reliability I think.

21st Nov 2012, 12:59	#9
dyzophoria Supermodder Join Date: May 2004 Location: Home Posts: 306	that's one sexy cooling system __________________ [FONT=Lucida Console]picture this..[/FONT] // [FONT=Tahoma][FONT=Fixedsys]picture that..[/FONT][/FONT]

21st Nov 2012, 13:11	#10
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21st Nov 2012, 20:35	#12
MrGumby CPC 464 User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Wakefield Posts: 1,038	It's interesting that they don't use water like regular water cooling systems ! I lol'd

21st Nov 2012, 20:42	#13
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21st Nov 2012, 20:51	#14
ChaosDefinesOrder Vapourmodder Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Cambridge, UK Posts: 478	Personally, I think the interesting thing here is that the radiator assembly /appears/ to fit completely into the footprint of a 120 fan. For people with 120 fan mounts that are recessed in some way preventing the installation of standard 120 radiators, this is an improvement! I only wish it came in a red LED variant... __________________ Current setup: Silverstone FT02B \| Core i7 920 (Cooled by Noctua NH-U12P) \| Foxconn Renaissance \| GTX280 \| Cooler Master UCP \| Corsair Dominator 3GB \| Creative X-Fi Titanium \| Windows 7 Home Premium x64 \| OS Drive: WD Velociraptor 300GB. Storage: 1x 160GB, 1x 250GB, 1x 300GB, 1x500GB (incremental additions over the years! All Maxtor) \| Monitor: Dell 2709W

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22nd Nov 2012, 06:59	#19
lilgoth89 Captin Calliope Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Lichfield UK Posts: 930	acually the Resorator means combined radiator and reservoir...and by the look of it thats a combined reservoir and radiator XD and dont dismiss it before you see final cooling numbers..im sure the same thing was said when they demo'd the first tower coolers, the first all in one water coolers etc etc etc __________________ I7 3770 @ 4.5Ghz \| Asrock z77 extreme 6 \| 16gb hyper X Ram 1600 \| SfX7870 oc \|Crucial 512 gb M4 \| Samsung Spin point 2tb x2 \| SiverStone Raven02 \| Corsair Hx 850