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Gareth Halfacree · 12th Dec 2012, 08:53

Voters tell company to aim for top-end performance.
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardwar...ona-hardware/1

Guinevere · 12th Dec 2012, 09:29

So it'll be expensive, heavy, with a 2.5hr (Max!) battery life, and play PC games like using the worlds heaviest console controller?

It'll probably be a lovely toy but PC hardware heat and power requirements is going to mean it'll be too big, drain too much juice from the cells and cost a LOT.

But I assume Razor know this so hopefully they'll have sourced a production run that will allow them to make money on small volume sales. It'll be a shame to see the product tank because Razor are relying on them selling them by the truckload.

Griffter · 12th Dec 2012, 09:42

they going to see the butts! its easy to make a dream machine from users voting and another for them to support the damn thing! they were all yes yes yes makes this , put that in. but now the price make make them go.. umm thats sooo cool, too bad i cant afford it.

i would say most that voted have rigs already and would rather buy a new GPU than that.

blacko · 12th Dec 2012, 10:10

its a nice idea but very far fetched. It could do with some sort of wireless charging system...

Based on the expected prices it could run on something like this
i7 3630qm
8gb of ram
120gb mSATA
and something like a GTX660M - 675M or AMD equivalent.
Windows 8 (non RT)

Ta10n · 12th Dec 2012, 11:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by blacko

its a nice idea but very far fetched. It could do with some sort of wireless charging system...

Based on the expected prices it could run on something like this
i7 3630qm
8gb of ram
120gb mSATA
and something like a GTX660M - 675M or AMD equivalent.
Windows 8 (non RT)

Hopefully it's something more pedestrian than that. I've got a similar setup (i7 2720qm, 16gb ram, 120gb ssd, GT555M) and I'd be lucky to get 45 minutes of gaming on a 9-cell battery. For a tablet device that's pretty much unacceptable, especially when you consider that you'll probably get a 4-cell at most.

If Razer have any sense they'll wait for Haswell and it's greatly improved integrated graphics, which should match up reasonably well against low-midrange discrete laptop cards. As long as they don't go crazy with the screen resolution it should be fine for most games.

edzieba · 12th Dec 2012, 13:03

So it's an ultrabook with a discrete mobile GPU, but the lower keyboard portion has been folded allll the way the the back and the keyboard & trackpad have vanished, and some control sticks and buttons have been added to the side?
I am perfectly fine with this. It is an excellent development, and has immediately put it above the hordes of ARM-based tablets with anaemic GPUs and no compatibility with your existing games.

Marvin-HHGTTG · 12th Dec 2012, 13:52

This is crying out for a high-end Trinity chip and a lower price, combined with a competent IPS panel around 1600x900 resolution (running games at 1080p at 10" is detrimental to performance for essentially no gain).

sixfootsideburns · 12th Dec 2012, 16:25

There are a lot of choices surrounding this that I don't understand... if the battery doesn't last at least 10 hours I wouldn't be interested. Personally I think the concept is awesome, but there is absolutely no way I would pay that much money. If the price was lower, the hardware was trimmed back a little bit, and the battery could be made to last at least a flight across the US then I think it could actually be pretty successful.

As is I just think people don't understand the demands of hardware like in terms of power consumption. Power means heat too and plenty of people already bitch about that with laptops. I would love this to be successful but I'm sceptical...

Skiddywinks · 13th Dec 2012, 06:32

I don't normally do things like this, but I predict no one is going to buy this. No one.

lysaer · 13th Dec 2012, 07:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skiddywinks

I don't normally do things like this, but I predict no one is going to buy this. No one.

I'd buy one.

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greigaitken · 13th Dec 2012, 09:59

so.. Fiona is gonna be fatter but have more umph!
just like real life then.

fdbh96 · 13th Dec 2012, 15:20

I really don't see this working. Sure people want good specs, but its going to be far too heavy (an ipad is just about light enough for a tablet). People will barely be able to lift it up. Maybe if it had an 8" screen it might be a bit better.

Roskoken · 13th Dec 2012, 16:18

46" TV directly in front of you secured and resting on shoulder straps

Backpack containing a Temjin TJ11 with water cooled i7 and 690's

Powered by a discrete yet long lasting diesel generator

BOOM

Done.

Proper mobility gaming, accept nothing less, untill that is hardware companys just start being honest with themselves and admit the technology isnt there yet to provide the powerful mobile gaming we would all like and stop trying to sell us **** WE DONT NEED.

greigaitken · 13th Dec 2012, 19:06

"the powerful gaming mobile we all want" you refer to wont be possible in 20/40/60 years, the bar keeps moving. If an i3 mobile device was release 10 years ago everyone would go nuts and buy buy buy, now you'd just get a few meh's. 5 years from now, we'll want whatever is possible in desktop crammed into mobile and so on. for now, i'll make do with smartphone + desktop.

fluxtatic · 15th Dec 2012, 11:05

The market for this will be tiny. Maybe, maybe if they had made it more like an Asus Transformer - with a keyboard dock, it'd shift some more. But then again, that'd bump the cost again. As it is, $1500 for a toy is laughable.

Imagine the whole laptop market. Now imagine how few 'gaming laptops' are sold. Imagine maybe 1% of that piece of the market. Razer will be lucky if they get that much.

abezors · 16th Dec 2012, 14:04

I wonder how many of these facebook fans are genuinely committed to this product... I would feel sorry for Razer going through an entire product development and release to an audience who was never actually prepared to buy this thing in the first place.

The consumer market doesn't seem to understand that powerful hardware = high battery drain. Core i7? Seriously?

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12th Dec 2012, 13:03	#6
edzieba Multimodder Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 249	So it's an ultrabook with a discrete mobile GPU, but the lower keyboard portion has been folded allll the way the the back and the keyboard & trackpad have vanished, and some control sticks and buttons have been added to the side? I am perfectly fine with this. It is an excellent development, and has immediately put it above the hordes of ARM-based tablets with anaemic GPUs and no compatibility with your existing games. __________________ EVGA GTX 260 SSC Intel Core2Duo E8400 MSI P43 NeoF 4gb DDR2-800 Cooler Master M620 620w modular PSU

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12th Dec 2012, 09:29	#2
Guinevere Mega mom Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,370	So it'll be expensive, heavy, with a 2.5hr (Max!) battery life, and play PC games like using the worlds heaviest console controller? It'll probably be a lovely toy but PC hardware heat and power requirements is going to mean it'll be too big, drain too much juice from the cells and cost a LOT. But I assume Razor know this so hopefully they'll have sourced a production run that will allow them to make money on small volume sales. It'll be a shame to see the product tank because Razor are relying on them selling them by the truckload.

12th Dec 2012, 09:42	#3
Griffter Supermodder Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 308	they going to see the butts! its easy to make a dream machine from users voting and another for them to support the damn thing! they were all yes yes yes makes this , put that in. but now the price make make them go.. umm thats sooo cool, too bad i cant afford it. i would say most that voted have rigs already and would rather buy a new GPU than that.

12th Dec 2012, 10:10	#4
blacko Multimodder Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 84	its a nice idea but very far fetched. It could do with some sort of wireless charging system... Based on the expected prices it could run on something like this i7 3630qm 8gb of ram 120gb mSATA and something like a GTX660M - 675M or AMD equivalent. Windows 8 (non RT)

12th Dec 2012, 13:52	#7
Marvin-HHGTTG Marvin. I don't care what ^ says... Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Maidstone, UK Posts: 1,119	This is crying out for a high-end Trinity chip and a lower price, combined with a competent IPS panel around 1600x900 resolution (running games at 1080p at 10" is detrimental to performance for essentially no gain).

12th Dec 2012, 16:25	#8
sixfootsideburns modeteer Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: USA Posts: 568	There are a lot of choices surrounding this that I don't understand... if the battery doesn't last at least 10 hours I wouldn't be interested. Personally I think the concept is awesome, but there is absolutely no way I would pay that much money. If the price was lower, the hardware was trimmed back a little bit, and the battery could be made to last at least a flight across the US then I think it could actually be pretty successful. As is I just think people don't understand the demands of hardware like in terms of power consumption. Power means heat too and plenty of people already bitch about that with laptops. I would love this to be successful but I'm sceptical...

13th Dec 2012, 09:59	#11
greigaitken Multimodder Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 234	so.. Fiona is gonna be fatter but have more umph! just like real life then.

13th Dec 2012, 15:20	#12
fdbh96 I am a Dremel Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,705	I really don't see this working. Sure people want good specs, but its going to be far too heavy (an ipad is just about light enough for a tablet). People will barely be able to lift it up. Maybe if it had an 8" screen it might be a bit better.

13th Dec 2012, 16:18	#13
Roskoken Multimodder Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Scotland Posts: 231	46" TV directly in front of you secured and resting on shoulder straps Backpack containing a Temjin TJ11 with water cooled i7 and 690's Powered by a discrete yet long lasting diesel generator BOOM Done. Proper mobility gaming, accept nothing less, untill that is hardware companys just start being honest with themselves and admit the technology isnt there yet to provide the powerful mobile gaming we would all like and stop trying to sell us **** WE DONT NEED.

13th Dec 2012, 19:06	#14
greigaitken Multimodder Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 234	"the powerful gaming mobile we all want" you refer to wont be possible in 20/40/60 years, the bar keeps moving. If an i3 mobile device was release 10 years ago everyone would go nuts and buy buy buy, now you'd just get a few meh's. 5 years from now, we'll want whatever is possible in desktop crammed into mobile and so on. for now, i'll make do with smartphone + desktop.

15th Dec 2012, 11:05	#15
fluxtatic Supermodder Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Seattle Posts: 401	The market for this will be tiny. Maybe, maybe if they had made it more like an Asus Transformer - with a keyboard dock, it'd shift some more. But then again, that'd bump the cost again. As it is, $1500 for a toy is laughable. Imagine the whole laptop market. Now imagine how few 'gaming laptops' are sold. Imagine maybe 1% of that piece of the market. Razer will be lucky if they get that much.

16th Dec 2012, 14:04	#16
abezors Lurking since '08 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Leicester & Newcastle Posts: 123	I wonder how many of these facebook fans are genuinely committed to this product... I would feel sorry for Razer going through an entire product development and release to an audience who was never actually prepared to buy this thing in the first place. The consumer market doesn't seem to understand that powerful hardware = high battery drain. Core i7? Seriously?