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Jay88018 · 9th Sep 2012, 20:57

Just started today, so learnin as i go along, but put the key in for more points...not sure what its all about, but more points sounds good.

1 question, while im folding, my gpu is going up to 89 degree's under full load, is this normal ? Movin to a new case soon with better cooling, so hopfully wont be this hot for long, but is that temp damaging to my gpu ??

mikemaher205 · 25th Sep 2012, 21:00

I have an i5-2500K running at 4.2GHz, with a HD Radeon 5850 GPU at stock speeds. Is there anything (bar heavy OC'ing) I can do to push out a higher PPD than around 6,500?

TaRkA DaHl · 25th Sep 2012, 21:18

Is the 6500 PPD between both? As that is very low. The 2500k should net around 15k on its own, I would turn the 5850 off as it is likely draining its resources, using more power and overall providing lower points. AMD cards generally suck at folding.

mikemaher205 · 26th Sep 2012, 18:05

Will give that a try, thanks.

Will changing to a Nvidia GTX GPU net much better PPD then, say a 560ti 448 for example?

TaRkA DaHl · 27th Sep 2012, 16:34

Any Nvidia GPU will net more points than an AMD GPU. They simply work better for what FAH is trying to do.

If you are going to spend cash specifically and solely on folding, CPU power is best if you can afford a new-ish CPU architecture. The higher end chips on socket 1155, 1136 and 2011 are beasts for folding and will churn out far more points for far lower electricity usage.

Useful link to give you an idea of PPD/£:

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/gra...-for-folding/4

mikemaher205 · 28th Sep 2012, 11:06

That's a really helpful link, thanks. Looks like an eBay scout around for a GTX 560 ti (448?) is in order.

Although, the newer AMD cards run differently now, has anyone got an average PPD for a new 7800 series card?

rikdegraaff · 28th Sep 2012, 20:21

Very interesting topic.
I gonna check some things out

Christopher N. Lew · 28th Sep 2012, 22:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikemaher205

That's a really helpful link, thanks. Looks like an eBay scout around for a GTX 560 ti (448?) is in order.

Although, the newer AMD cards run differently now, has anyone got an average PPD for a new 7800 series card?

For best results on an AMD card you will need to run the v7 client, and it will use roughly one core of your CPU. In this regard the linked article is out of date, and AMD folding numbers are difficult to find and compare.

The usual advice is to buy the graphics card you want for other applications, and think of folding as a secondary consideration.

mikemaher205 · 29th Sep 2012, 17:31

Interesting info there. I will turn my clients to fold on 2 CPU cores, my AMD GPU and that should leave 1 core free for casual stuff.

Currently away from my computer and see that my signature says I have scored no points for 2 days... Not good...

UPDATE 01-10-12: Setting my V7 client to the above has resulted in a new PPD of 18,000. Result.

Ptarmigan · 14th Oct 2012, 06:59

Hi folks - was pondering turning off the ati gpu's (11k ppd) and setting the CPU back to 8 threads (I7-975EE with lots of headroom) and going for a Bigadv run, but...I can't see how to do that in V7 - can it still be done?

Cheers.

kirk46 · 14th Oct 2012, 07:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ptarmigan

Hi folks - was pondering turning off the ati gpu's (11k ppd) and setting the CPU back to 8 threads (I7-975EE with lots of headroom) and going for a Bigadv run, but...I can't see how to do that in V7 - can it still be done?

Cheers.

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tbh i dont think it makes any difference these days as i get so many different WU's with varying PPD

you need to get rid of the ATi gpu's and get a Nvidia gpu

my GTX560 none TI gets 12-17k ppd on its own

Ptarmigan · 14th Oct 2012, 07:22

hi - cheers but that doesn't go in depth enough - I have discovered this one though which is really helpful for all settings:

http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=18187

Hope it helps a few ppl

kirk46 · 14th Oct 2012, 09:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ptarmigan

hi - cheers but that doesn't go in depth enough - I have discovered this one though which is really helpful for all settings:

http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=18187

Hope it helps a few ppl

ok i just googled it and linked the first guide which was adequate for what you were asking....

beside its still the same guide.

but the flags dont really work for me....

ive just got a intel duel core cpu that im testing OC'ing ready for adding a gpu to fold on, ive set the max-packet-size to small and it picked up a nice small 85 base point WU, but the second WU it picked up was 1800+ base point WU, which its going to take over 2 days to complete....

so setting that flag has done nothing

Ptarmigan · 14th Oct 2012, 19:55

ah - it's helped me a bit - didn't know how to set the flags before - regarding the graphics cards - would be lovely to afford an Nvidia card but I've a daughter aged 5, another aged 2 and a 2 month old son....PC is low priority process stream just now

(I inherited the 975 free from a mate who's a CAD guy and was upgrading) I can't say as the flag itself will help, I'm running at 3.75Ghz on 8 threads and getting estimated 17k pts from a 2.2k work unit (24 hrs turnaround) - I will see if I get any interesting units after this one completes- all about trial and error and learning from everyone else

TaRkA DaHl · 14th Oct 2012, 22:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ptarmigan

Hi folks - was pondering turning off the ati gpu's (11k ppd) and setting the CPU back to 8 threads (I7-975EE with lots of headroom) and going for a Bigadv run, but...I can't see how to do that in V7 - can it still be done?

Cheers.

Can't run bigadv on that processor, need 16 cores now.

Unless you were willing to do a Linux install and try and trick it, but even then I doubt this CPU is near fast enough.

kirk46 · 15th Oct 2012, 13:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by TaRkA DaHl

Can't run bigadv on that processor, need 16 cores now.

Unless you were willing to do a Linux install and try and trick it, but even then I doubt this CPU is near fast enough.

thats bigbeta isnt it?

TaRkA DaHl · 15th Oct 2012, 18:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirk46

thats bigbeta isnt it?

http://folding.typepad.com/news/2011...y-16-2012.html

http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=22148

mikemaher205 · 24th Jan 2013, 20:20

How much PPD would an Intel Xeon 5450 produce? Thinking of building a second system based around 2 of them.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Intel-Xeon...item3a7e4494ec

25th Sep 2012, 21:00	#82
mikemaher205 Multimodder Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Essex Posts: 100	I have an i5-2500K running at 4.2GHz, with a HD Radeon 5850 GPU at stock speeds. Is there anything (bar heavy OC'ing) I can do to push out a higher PPD than around 6,500? __________________

26th Sep 2012, 18:05	#84
mikemaher205 Multimodder Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Essex Posts: 100	Will give that a try, thanks. Will changing to a Nvidia GTX GPU net much better PPD then, say a 560ti 448 for example? __________________ Last edited by mikemaher205; 26th Sep 2012 at 18:08. Reason: Extra questions.

28th Sep 2012, 11:06	#86
mikemaher205 Multimodder Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Essex Posts: 100	That's a really helpful link, thanks. Looks like an eBay scout around for a GTX 560 ti (448?) is in order. Although, the newer AMD cards run differently now, has anyone got an average PPD for a new 7800 series card? __________________ Last edited by mikemaher205; 28th Sep 2012 at 19:40.

29th Sep 2012, 17:31	#89
mikemaher205 Multimodder Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Essex Posts: 100	Interesting info there. I will turn my clients to fold on 2 CPU cores, my AMD GPU and that should leave 1 core free for casual stuff. Currently away from my computer and see that my signature says I have scored no points for 2 days... Not good... UPDATE 01-10-12: Setting my V7 client to the above has resulted in a new PPD of 18,000. Result. __________________ Last edited by mikemaher205; 1st Oct 2012 at 23:26.

14th Oct 2012, 19:55	#94
Ptarmigan What's a Dremel? Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 16	ah - it's helped me a bit - didn't know how to set the flags before - regarding the graphics cards - would be lovely to afford an Nvidia card but I've a daughter aged 5, another aged 2 and a 2 month old son....PC is low priority process stream just now (I inherited the 975 free from a mate who's a CAD guy and was upgrading) I can't say as the flag itself will help, I'm running at 3.75Ghz on 8 threads and getting estimated 17k pts from a 2.2k work unit (24 hrs turnaround) - I will see if I get any interesting units after this one completes- all about trial and error and learning from everyone else Last edited by Ptarmigan; 14th Oct 2012 at 19:56. Reason: added time to complete

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9th Sep 2012, 20:57	#81
Jay88018 Modder Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Scotland Posts: 52	Just started today, so learnin as i go along, but put the key in for more points...not sure what its all about, but more points sounds good. 1 question, while im folding, my gpu is going up to 89 degree's under full load, is this normal ? Movin to a new case soon with better cooling, so hopfully wont be this hot for long, but is that temp damaging to my gpu ??

25th Sep 2012, 21:18	#83
TaRkA DaHl Ultramodder Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,385	Is the 6500 PPD between both? As that is very low. The 2500k should net around 15k on its own, I would turn the 5850 off as it is likely draining its resources, using more power and overall providing lower points. AMD cards generally suck at folding.

27th Sep 2012, 16:34	#85
TaRkA DaHl Ultramodder Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,385	Any Nvidia GPU will net more points than an AMD GPU. They simply work better for what FAH is trying to do. If you are going to spend cash specifically and solely on folding, CPU power is best if you can afford a new-ish CPU architecture. The higher end chips on socket 1155, 1136 and 2011 are beasts for folding and will churn out far more points for far lower electricity usage. Useful link to give you an idea of PPD/£: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/gra...-for-folding/4

28th Sep 2012, 20:21	#87
rikdegraaff What's a Dremel? Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 6	Very interesting topic. I gonna check some things out

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Ptarmigan What's a Dremel? Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 16	Hi folks - was pondering turning off the ati gpu's (11k ppd) and setting the CPU back to 8 threads (I7-975EE with lots of headroom) and going for a Bigadv run, but...I can't see how to do that in V7 - can it still be done? Cheers.

14th Oct 2012, 07:22	#92
Ptarmigan What's a Dremel? Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 16	hi - cheers but that doesn't go in depth enough - I have discovered this one though which is really helpful for all settings: http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=18187 Hope it helps a few ppl

24th Jan 2013, 20:20	#98
mikemaher205 Multimodder Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Essex Posts: 100	How much PPD would an Intel Xeon 5450 produce? Thinking of building a second system based around 2 of them. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Intel-Xeon...item3a7e4494ec __________________ Last edited by mikemaher205; 11th Feb 2013 at 21:29. Reason: Change of thought...