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cdb · 8th Nov 2009, 22:30

My current pc is 8 years old and slowing, so I thought I'd do what I planned for years and build a new one.

This is what I've ordered so far:-

Coolermaster HAF932 case
Asus P7P55 WS Supercomputer motherboard
Intel i7 860 cpu
Zalman CNPS10X Quiet CPU Cooler
8G (4x2GB) Corsair XMS3 DDR3, PC3-12800 (1600) memory
2x 1TB F3 spinpoint hard drives
blu ray reader/dvd writer combo
usb floppy/card reader combo

As soon as the OCZ Z1000m 80 plus gold psu comes into stock I'll have one of those.

I have a tube of artic silver 5 thermal compund here from a couple of years back. Will it be ok to use some or should I get some new stuff, if so, what's best?

Now I now I also need an OS. Win 7 64bit is planned.
Do I need a seperate modem card like my current pc or do the Realtek 81112L Dual Gb LAN connections on my motherboard act as the modem connection?

I'm going to use the monitor, mouse and keyboard from my current pc. Mouse and keyboard are a couple of years old if that and the monitor is still going strong from 2001 (18" 1280x1024 lcd)

Any advice/suggestions welcome.

The_Beast · 8th Nov 2009, 22:33

just at a glance you don't have a GPU and there is no onboard video so you'll need one

Slizza · 8th Nov 2009, 22:49

Yeh you forgot a graphics card.
You could also go for the "High end" X58 Based system if you are spending that kind of money on a build.

cdb · 8th Nov 2009, 22:54

Editing the first post seems to have created a double thread

Video card- forgot to say I've got some 8800GTs waiting to go in.

I wanted to go 1156 as it uses 40W less than a 920 would, same reason I've gone for the 80plus gold psu, basically to use waste as little power on the machine as possible so the wife doesn't moad at me too much when the electricity bill comes in.

How do I copy my old photos and music etc off my old ide drives on to the sata ones as this motherboard foesn't have ide connections?

Andersen1337 · 8th Nov 2009, 22:57

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Originally Posted by cdb

Editing the first post seems to have created a double thread

Video card- forgot to say I've got some 8800GTs waiting to go in.

I wanted to go 1156 as it uses 40W less than a 920 would, same reason I've gone for the 80plus gold psu, basically to use waste as little power on the machine as possible so the wife doesn't moad at me too much when the electricity bill comes in.

How do I copy my old photos and music etc off my old ide drives on to the sata ones as this motherboard foesn't have ide connections?

Back it up on DVD's/USB-sticks...

cdb · 8th Nov 2009, 23:02

That's alot of DVDs. 90GB worth is about 20dvds and alot of time. Is there an easier solution?

Motoko · 8th Nov 2009, 23:14

120gb USB hard drive mate

cdb · 8th Nov 2009, 23:16

I'm still usb1.1 on my old pc, so it could still take a while.

smc8788 · 8th Nov 2009, 23:28

That motherboard is major overkill. Is there any particular reason why you need 4 x16 PCI-e slots?

Jipa · 8th Nov 2009, 23:33

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Originally Posted by cdb

I'm still usb1.1 on my old pc, so it could still take a while.

Buy an external IDE-USB adapter or case for the hard drive in the old rig. Just slap the drive in there and voila.

Mechh69 · 8th Nov 2009, 23:47

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Originally Posted by Jipa

Buy an external IDE-USB adapter or case for the hard drive in the old rig. Just slap the drive in there and voila.

As Jipa says This should work fine for that. I have one and have no complaints from it works great especially when you have information on a lot of different drives and drive sizes. Or when you happen to be the lucky one everyone brings their broke computers to.

PureSilver · 9th Nov 2009, 01:41

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Originally Posted by smc8788

That motherboard is major overkill. Is there any particular reason why you need 4 x16 PCI-e slots?

He didn't specify how many 8800GTs, he only said plural..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jipa

Buy an external IDE-USB adapter or case for the hard drive in the old rig. Just slap the drive in there and voila.

This is by far the best option. Any sort of external hard drive enclosure with IDE connections will work just fine, and then you can use it for backup!

smc8788 · 9th Nov 2009, 02:02

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Originally Posted by PureSilver

He didn't specify how many 8800GTs, he only said plural..

But then as it's P55 rather than X58 you only have 16 lanes to share between them, so they would presumably only be able to operate at x4 each...

cdb · 9th Nov 2009, 15:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by smc8788

That motherboard is major overkill. Is there any particular reason why you need 4 x16 PCI-e slots?

Folding@home. Allegedly it will work quite happily with pcie 4times and this motherboard can do 4 cuda gpus at 8times, so mine should be OK.

I've actually got 5 8800gts if they'll all work. Only one way to find out.

smc8788 · 9th Nov 2009, 15:34

Fair enough, folding will be fine using only 4 lanes, but going for a Lynnfield i7 to save 40W while having 4 GPUs folding at the same time doesn't make a lot of sense.

cdb · 9th Nov 2009, 16:16

True, but the GPUs are allegedly fairly low power too compared to some. I'll see what my meter thingy says when I plug it all in. If the worst comes to worst I could remove a gpu or 2.

ThunderBob · 9th Nov 2009, 16:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdb

My current pc is 8 years old and slowing, so I thought I'd do what I planned for years and build a new one.

This is what I've ordered so far:-

Coolermaster HAF932 case
Asus P7P55 WS Supercomputer motherboard
Intel i7 860 cpu
Zalman CNPS10X Quiet CPU Cooler
8G (4x2GB) Corsair XMS3 DDR3, PC3-12800 (1600) memory
2x 1TB F3 spinpoint hard drives
blu ray reader/dvd writer combo
usb floppy/card reader combo

As soon as the OCZ Z1000m 80 plus gold psu comes into stock I'll have one of those.

I have a tube of artic silver 5 thermal compund here from a couple of years back. Will it be ok to use some or should I get some new stuff, if so, what's best?

Now I now I also need an OS. Win 7 64bit is planned.
Do I need a seperate modem card like my current pc or do the Realtek 81112L Dual Gb LAN connections on my motherboard act as the modem connection?

I'm going to use the monitor, mouse and keyboard from my current pc. Mouse and keyboard are a couple of years old if that and the monitor is still going strong from 2001 (18" 1280x1024 lcd)

Any advice/suggestions welcome.

Hmmm

I would suggest the following

Coolermaster HAF932 - Case
Asus P6T SE - Motherboard
Intel i7 920 - CPU
Prolimatech Megahalems - Cooler
6GB (3x2GB) Corsair Dominator DDR3, PC3-12800 (1600) - Memory
1TB F3 Spinpointx2 - Hard Drives
Pioneer BDC-S03XLB - Blu-Ray Reader/DVD Writer
HRU-215A3 - Scan Black Floppy Disk +Int Combo All in 1 Card Reader - Floppy/Card Reader

saspro · 9th Nov 2009, 17:13

If it's purely for folding then you're wasting money with all the RAM etc
For my quad card rigs I just use a MSI K9A2 Platinum & a cheap Athlon X2 processor.

cdb · 10th Nov 2009, 21:50

Big ADVs require 6G.

(and if it won't cope with those, then I have plenty of ram for video and photo editing

)

I was going to assemble the components I have tonight (still waiting on the psu and some new thermal paste) when I found out that the cpu heat sink cut out in the case is partially in the wring place for the i860 cpu. Is it worth extending the cut out to clear the mounting screws on the backplate (with the use of a dremmel), or just leave it? I'm assuming the screws won't touch the casing, but will check to make sure.

That Zalman is abit of a faff, you have to install the cpu first as the mounting plate blocks the cpu release lever, so if you want to change cpus in the future you have to unbolt the whole caboodle and not just the fan and heat sink.

saspro · 10th Nov 2009, 22:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdb

Big ADVs require 6G.

(and if it won't cope with those, then I have plenty of ram for video and photo editing

)

I was going to assemble the components I have tonight (still waiting on the psu and some new thermal paste) when I found out that the cpu heat sink cut out in the case is partially in the wring place for the i860 cpu. Is it worth extending the cut out to clear the mounting screws on the backplate (with the use of a dremmel), or just leave it? I'm assuming the screws won't touch the casing, but will check to make sure.

That Zalman is abit of a faff, you have to install the cpu first as the mounting plate blocks the cpu release lever, so if you want to change cpus in the future you have to unbolt the whole caboodle and not just the fan and heat sink.

bigadv's only need 4GB (I'm using 3.8GB out of 12GB), don't run too many gpus with the bigadv's or it'll slow down too much for the bonus.

8th Nov 2009, 22:30	#1
cdb No comment Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: N Yorks Posts: 33	New build, Have I forgot anything? My current pc is 8 years old and slowing, so I thought I'd do what I planned for years and build a new one. This is what I've ordered so far:- Coolermaster HAF932 case Asus P7P55 WS Supercomputer motherboard Intel i7 860 cpu Zalman CNPS10X Quiet CPU Cooler 8G (4x2GB) Corsair XMS3 DDR3, PC3-12800 (1600) memory 2x 1TB F3 spinpoint hard drives blu ray reader/dvd writer combo usb floppy/card reader combo As soon as the OCZ Z1000m 80 plus gold psu comes into stock I'll have one of those. I have a tube of artic silver 5 thermal compund here from a couple of years back. Will it be ok to use some or should I get some new stuff, if so, what's best? Now I now I also need an OS. Win 7 64bit is planned. Do I need a seperate modem card like my current pc or do the Realtek 81112L Dual Gb LAN connections on my motherboard act as the modem connection? I'm going to use the monitor, mouse and keyboard from my current pc. Mouse and keyboard are a couple of years old if that and the monitor is still going strong from 2001 (18" 1280x1024 lcd) Any advice/suggestions welcome.

8th Nov 2009, 22:33	#2
The_Beast I am The Stig Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 3,199	just at a glance you don't have a GPU and there is no onboard video so you'll need one __________________ Rendering Machine - Gigabyte DS3L P35 - C2Q Q6600 - Antec New Solution Series NSK4480B - Corsair XMS2 2Gb - Sapphire 2600 XT 256mb - Seagate 'Cuda 320 GB - Antec Earthwatt 430 watt - Windows XP Pro -

8th Nov 2009, 22:49	#3
Slizza beautiful to demons Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Scotland Posts: 720	Yeh you forgot a graphics card. You could also go for the "High end" X58 Based system if you are spending that kind of money on a build. __________________ Case: Coolermaster HAF:PSU: 850W Corsair :Mobo: Asus P6T Deluxe CPU:Core I7 920 @3.6Ghz Memory: 6Gb Corsair 1600Mhz :HDD:1TB Spinpoint +320Gb Spinpoint :GPU: Nvidia GTX 280

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saspro former cpchimp captain Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Surrey Posts: 5,942	If it's purely for folding then you're wasting money with all the RAM etc For my quad card rigs I just use a MSI K9A2 Platinum & a cheap Athlon X2 processor. __________________ Missing the meeting place? Join us at the new meeting place saspro's farm status

8th Nov 2009, 22:54	#4
cdb No comment Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: N Yorks Posts: 33	Editing the first post seems to have created a double thread Video card- forgot to say I've got some 8800GTs waiting to go in. I wanted to go 1156 as it uses 40W less than a 920 would, same reason I've gone for the 80plus gold psu, basically to use waste as little power on the machine as possible so the wife doesn't moad at me too much when the electricity bill comes in. How do I copy my old photos and music etc off my old ide drives on to the sata ones as this motherboard foesn't have ide connections?

8th Nov 2009, 23:02	#6
cdb No comment Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: N Yorks Posts: 33	That's alot of DVDs. 90GB worth is about 20dvds and alot of time. Is there an easier solution?

8th Nov 2009, 23:16	#8
cdb No comment Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: N Yorks Posts: 33	I'm still usb1.1 on my old pc, so it could still take a while.

8th Nov 2009, 23:28	#9
smc8788 This is bit-tech! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Southampton, UK Posts: 2,246	That motherboard is major overkill. Is there any particular reason why you need 4 x16 PCI-e slots?

9th Nov 2009, 15:34	#15
smc8788 This is bit-tech! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Southampton, UK Posts: 2,246	Fair enough, folding will be fine using only 4 lanes, but going for a Lynnfield i7 to save 40W while having 4 GPUs folding at the same time doesn't make a lot of sense.

9th Nov 2009, 16:16	#16
cdb No comment Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: N Yorks Posts: 33	True, but the GPUs are allegedly fairly low power too compared to some. I'll see what my meter thingy says when I plug it all in. If the worst comes to worst I could remove a gpu or 2.

10th Nov 2009, 21:50	#19
cdb No comment Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: N Yorks Posts: 33	Big ADVs require 6G. (and if it won't cope with those, then I have plenty of ram for video and photo editing) I was going to assemble the components I have tonight (still waiting on the psu and some new thermal paste) when I found out that the cpu heat sink cut out in the case is partially in the wring place for the i860 cpu. Is it worth extending the cut out to clear the mounting screws on the backplate (with the use of a dremmel), or just leave it? I'm assuming the screws won't touch the casing, but will check to make sure. That Zalman is abit of a faff, you have to install the cpu first as the mounting plate blocks the cpu release lever, so if you want to change cpus in the future you have to unbolt the whole caboodle and not just the fan and heat sink.