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this cant be right can it

Discussion in 'Serious' started by warrmr, 31 Mar 2004.

  1. warrmr

    warrmr What's a Dremel?

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    how can thye arrest her for child porn charges. when shs did it out of her own free will. shes 15 ffs






    http://www.post-gazette.com/breaking/20040329pornp6.asp
     
  2. Deviate

    Deviate What's a Dremel?

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    I'm surprised they aren't going after her parents for the same charges or at least for being accessories. Since they are legally responsible for her I wouldn't be surprised to see that happen before long.

    <comment_sure_to_invite_flaming>And as a parent of a daughter (granted she's only 2) I say the parents should be charged and punished for not keeping better tabs on her and what she is doing! She has no privacy as long as she lives under their roof. They should know everything she has on that computer and what she is using it for. It's about time that parents begin taking some freakin' responsibility!! :miffed: </comment_sure_to_invite_flaming>
     
  3. :: kna ::

    :: kna :: POCOYO! Moderator

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    Arresting her, stupid (and frankly, disgusting).

    A stern conversation (or caution) with her parents, absolutely.
     
  4. hacker 8991

    hacker 8991 What's a Dremel?

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    Am I the only one (I dont think I am) that sees the whole ****fing of the blame thing going on?

    Parents are always mad at something - let's say video games. Parents are mad at video games because it makes their children aggressive and violent and such. To make it interesting, there has been no scientific proof of this. However, back to the point, parents are just getting lazy and don't want to take responsibility for their child doing things (s)he isn't supposed to be doing. So, they don't try to discipline their child, they try to move the blame to something that can easily take it. It used to be comic books or violent movies, but now that they are firmly established, it is video games. Now, I know I am over simplifying here, but I think the whole parents not caring thing is stupid and that parents should take control of the situations and not try to make any money from them.

    I am an example of this. My parents raised me very well, so I know the social restrictions of... society. I constantly play video games (CS, BF1942, ST: KOTOR, C&C, etc), and I have never hust any intentionally.

    Just venting....

    (btw, all words with a space after them might be misspelled ;))
     
  5. Dad

    Dad You talkin to me?

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    Dude, It's been like that for decades if not forever. When I was a kid, it was Dungeons and Dragons, Heavy Metal (especially Ozzy), MTV and guys with long hair... Remember, I'm much older than you ;)
     
  6. hacker 8991

    hacker 8991 What's a Dremel?

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    *sniffles* I think it is my bedtime...
     
  7. Haddy

    Haddy World Domination

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    Ozzy who?
    :D
     
  8. GreatOldOne

    GreatOldOne Wannabe Martian

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    Young folk today... Dunno you've been born until you've been influenced by the dark side / D&D / Heavy rock.... ;)
     
  9. jgrade

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    Personally I don’t think we have gone far enough. I would sue the manufacturer of the camera for providing the juvenile with the tools to take the pictures. Then I would go after the PC manufacture for c\collaborating. After that I would attack the maker of the modem/router the ISP, the cable/phone company, the moderators and owners of the sites she posted herself at and lastly Al Gore for inventing the internet in the first place. If I had time left over, I could sure the battery manufacturers, the memory card people, the makers the cables, the list is endless.

    I agree with hacker8991. Stop blaming everyone else. Take control and responsibility for your own actions. Whose is to say her parents didn’t raise her properly and taught her not to do those types of things? She is 15 and has her own thoughts. I was taught not to smoke, but I did anyway. My fault, not my parents. I sure got the s**t kicked out of me when they found out and I don’t smoke anymore. If this was my daughter, I would sure make it difficult for her to do something like that again. I taught her well, but I can’t control her every move. I my family, my disappointment in her would be punishment enough. That’s how I was raised.
     
  10. hacker 8991

    hacker 8991 What's a Dremel?

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    EXCELLENT way of putting this into perspective. Although this is extreme, it is what the people that are sueing (ie the lady who sued mcdonalds for hot coffe... wtf?) are doing on a basic level.

    Take responsibility!
     
  11. hypocrisy86

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    Her fault for being immature... :rolleyes:
     
  12. Malvolio

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    ok ok ok, so, let me get this straight. People exist to bare offspring, then to raise them in a timely fashion, passing down knowledge and experience from one generation to the next; thus keeping the species alive. Now, tell me, where in the whole makeup of life did the thought step in that parents are responseable for EVERY action a child makes? Say you we're 14 again, and you go out one day and find a gun, you pick it up and fire off a few rounds at some birds, but you accidently hurt somebody in the process whom latter dies in the hospital. NOW, tell me how it is the parents fault? Are parents truely expected to follow arround their own offspring 24/7? Are children never ever allowed to be alone to expore life on their own? Are we so mentaly inept these days that we can not hold people responseable for their own actions anymore? Yes, what this girl did was wrong, and yes she proably did know exactly what she was bloody well doing, but why are they filling charges against her to the tune of "....sexual abuse of children, possession of child pornography..."? That is what truely puzzles me. As children, are we not allowed to even look at our own bodies? Are we not allowed to explore our own sexuality? Or are we expected to grow up not knowing what our own genitals even look like - or how to use them? This girl does not need to be charged with what she did, she proably doesn't understand the legal rammifications of what she did, what she does need is her parents to step in and say that they love her, and explain to her what she did, that what she is exploreing is perfectly OK, but whats not ok is showing it to other people at her age.



    Oh, heres a final thought, am I the only one who sees that clothing is not natural? If you lived in a nudest commune, and there was a couple children there, wouldn't that constitute child pornography? And maybe anybody who had seen them should be charged with possession of child pornography because they may still have images of the children in their minds. But maybe, just maybe, I'm wrong. Think about it.
     
  13. acrimonious

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    I don't think pictures of naked people class as pornography. If the intention is to produce sexual arousal, not just being naked, then it's porn.
     
  14. aaronrkelly

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    Shes 15 - she old enough to know better. If she choose to do this of her own freewill and nobody was persuasive then its HER fault this happen. She choose to do this - note the "she" part. Her parents didnt choose this for her so why would it be there fault. Seems logical to me. Thats whats missing in law today is logic and common sense.
     
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    Holy thread revival batman :eeek:
     

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