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Will VMWare give me what I want?

Discussion in 'bit-tech Folding Team' started by One_Box, 12 Dec 2011.

  1. One_Box

    One_Box Folder of the month April 2012

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    I am testing my new 3930K with Win 7 64bit and am also able to run it under native Linux (Ubuntu).

    I 'm thinking of using VMware (Win 7 host) to run folding via Linux.

    I need to know if this is possible : -

    Run Linux as a virtual machine but at the same time run various temperature monitoring programs and my dual tuner TV card under Windows.

    I would be grateful for any feedback, thanks.
     
  2. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    that should be doable, though i'd keep a core or 2 free for the TV otherwise it may chug a little...
     
  3. TaRkA DaHl

    TaRkA DaHl Modder

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    Not an issue.

    I use Win7 64bit with Ubuntu in a VM and still use windows as normal, also have HFM running in Windows.
     
  4. One_Box

    One_Box Folder of the month April 2012

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    Is it OK to use the latest version of vmware 4.01 I think or is an earlier version necessary?

    Any tips at all ?
     
  5. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    If folding is all you're gonna do on it i'd do a bare minimum install [no gui or anything like that], run the VM headless if you can and control it via SSH
     
  6. TaRkA DaHl

    TaRkA DaHl Modder

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    You need Version 3.0 EXACTLY, and once installed you need to modify the vmx file wherever you setup the virtual machine and make it read:

    numvcpus = "12"
    maxvcpus = "12"
     
  7. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    shouldn't that be 16 given the [upcoming] changed to the 'big' units
     
  8. One_Box

    One_Box Folder of the month April 2012

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    OK guys, will give it a go!
     
  9. Leroyingo

    Leroyingo What's a Dremel?

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    Anyone have a Vmware image of a complete linux install with it already setup they would like to share :lol:
    I have used the one available from another site which is setup for folding but it is limited in what other functions you can do.
     
  10. TaRkA DaHl

    TaRkA DaHl Modder

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    No. It should be how ever many physical and logical cores you have.

    If you put it higher than you have, VMware won't start.

    If you want to do what you are talking about it is quite a bit more complicated than changing two lines of code.
     
  11. Leroyingo

    Leroyingo What's a Dremel?

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    As a noob, how do you edit that file, I started a unbuntu install in vmware and its only coming up with 4 penguins when it should be 8. I am using VMware version 3.0 .

    Anyone who wants to set up a simple virtual machine and linux folding see the link. You can get a pre-made linux image ready to go for folding as well as instructions. Shouldnt take long and should help your ppd over windows directly.

    http://www.linuxforge.net/docs/crunching/fah-vmware.php
     
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  12. TaRkA DaHl

    TaRkA DaHl Modder

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    Once everything is setup and running, go into your documents folder in windows or wherever you created your VM, in there look for the 'name of VM'.vmx (ie ubuntu.vmx) file and right click, open with and select notepad. Change the two lines I mentioned earlier to read 8 or 12 or 16 depending on however many actual core you have. Save and restart VM.
     
  13. One_Box

    One_Box Folder of the month April 2012

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    I set up the vmware 3.0 and installed Ubuntu 10.10 within it. I did a system update and the vm was obviously working.

    I made the changes you suggested to the configuration file and it came back with the message "a virtual machine cannot run with more than 8CPUs, this one has 12"

    It would seem that vmware 3.0 will only work with 8 threads, is there a version that will work with 12 or more?
     
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  14. Leroyingo

    Leroyingo What's a Dremel?

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    Thanks Tarka that worked, will now spend the time to set it up.
     
  15. enigmo

    enigmo Kettleboiler Extraordinaire

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    Do you see much of a ppd bump running folding in a Linux vm compared to the native Windows console client?
     
  16. TaRkA DaHl

    TaRkA DaHl Modder

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    Wasn't aware of this limitation so cannot help, sorry :/

    Without a doubt, SMP gives around a 3-4k PPD boost, bigadv about 5-7k PPD boost. But I run VMware for different reasons and get about a 35k PPD boost :p
     

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