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Old 3rd May 2010, 23:27   #121
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Yea, sands pretty easy to deal with, i changed because i got fed up with gravel, sand gives it a lighter look and feel, and is somewhat easier to clean too, as the muck just sits on top, you can just use a hose to suck it off. I got my bags from Maidenhead, 25k and cost 18, And Clown Loach prefer sand to gravel, apparently they like to dig, but mine don't bother, just swim around eating my plants.

One word of advice though, buy more sand than you intend to use, it sinks and compacts like no body's business, hence putting so much in the big tank.

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Ah, thats good to know.

Maybe I'll get some.


My current thinking is probably not completely replacing the gravel with sand, but putting the sand down and mixing the two together. Probably removing some of the gravel.

Went to try and get some clown loaches today, but the places either didn't have any, or they were 8 per fish!!!!. Not paying that much. Might try maidenhead at the garden centre and see what they've got, but they're usually more expensive than everywhere else, so if everywhere else is at 8 I'm dreading to think what maidenhead could be,
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Clown Loach are 3 for 21 at my local Maidenheads

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picked up my rio 240 at the weekend and bought 27kg of live rock. got a bulk discount and a further 15% off on top. hard to beat.

my live rock being kept alive



new tank being filled by my ro filter. been on since 2pm yesterday until now and its still an inch from the weir. thought it might take longer to fill tbh


the shop i used for the LR has a huge quarantine so they cure the LR so it should be cycled already or have a short cycle so might be ready for fish in 2 weeks
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Old 4th May 2010, 18:27   #125
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WOW!!

Been thinking of one at home. 1st one. No idea about anything. Will need to come back here for a better read.

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Looks awesome shigllgetcha, i hope you've changed the lights on the Rio from the normal T8's the tank is supplied with, and gone for the brighter T5's you can get, but i must say, DO WANT!!

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Old 4th May 2010, 19:56   #127
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thanks for the complements

the current rios come with t5s so all sorted. even have an extra 2x54 ballast if i need more light when i get corals.

im well happy with it so far. the tank is nealy full then the sump will have to fill abit then heat it and add salt then transfer the live rock.

found a worm swimmin around last nite in the LR, gf was not impressed. think the powerhead chopped him in two tho

the shop put a sump in aswell and skimmer and return pump


I added an extra chamber for more LR and sand if i feel like it


glad i got a conversion. id be way too tempted to get the best and waste money over compensating if i bought the tank and added the stuff later.

the first fish will be two clownfish I think, very run of the mill but I like them

hopefully with the right salt and a good pet shop everything will go ok

and this all started when i saw a bloody nano in the local shop lol but i knew id outgrow it an want a bigger one in like six months
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God damn you shigllgetcha, now i'm tempted to move my fish from my Rio and turn it into a Marine tank, grrr, curse you...

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Went to the Maidenheads aquatics at the garden centre today.

They had 3 tanks full of clown loach. At 4.50 each, .

So I got 3 of them. And 1 bunch of Vallis.

For a total of 17. Bloody expensive plant at 3.50
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haha its a curse alright

added my salt to my tank last nite and was hoping to move my live rock in but ive added too much salt (just the difference between the capacity of the tank and the new lower capacity with the weir) so tonight im going to add more RO water and get my salt levels right and hopefully move over the LR. think i need to add 23/24 litres of RO water to get my levels down which will take a while.no big loss as i still have to fill the sump anyway

was testing my bucket of live rock to see if its cycling but i think my test kit might be out of date. have to check when i get home
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I've managed to fill my main tank at last, time for it to Cycle, which should be 2 to 3 weeks.

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I'm tempted to get the other smaller tank out the loft.

But then I think about what it needs.
Hood, lighting unit, heater, water, sand, plants, stand, somewhere to put it

Which could easily come to 75-100.
So I don't think it'll be happening,
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Almost how it currently looks:


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live rock and sand in
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Looking good shigllgetcha, gonna be awesome when you start to add live stock, guessing common Clowns first? Normally the first fish for first time Marine keepers.

Good news from me also, plants and water are in, also finally figured out why i had such a loss of water flow on my Fluval G6, just need a new part, which is yet another 30, but it's working none the less. Livestock can be added mid next week, and will be some of my current Neon Tetras, w00t

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haha yeh clowns first. very run of the mill but they seem like great characters hardy and cheap enough that if i really cock up ill not be too out of pocket. not that i expect to as im trying to do everything right.

got a new API test kit, my ph seems spot on and my amonia nitrite and nitrate all seem to be zero so im all cycled I hope. had the LR since last sunday and my old test kit was buggered so im assuming its cycled. i threw in some flake food yesterday to see if the LR can cope with the amonia from that to make sure its cycled.

so hopefully ill be getting 2 clowns sunday and maybe a coral or 2 cleaner shrimp

planned stock-losely planned tbh

2 common clowns
2 bangaii cardinals
jawfish
royal gramma

and some kind of signature fish, maybe a yellow tang or a flame angel not sure yet.

there is other stuff im considering but im taking it slowly and deciding later what to go with

hopefully with alot of small fish and one big one i could have maybe 8 or 9 fish but im not worrying about stocking yet im just going to look into it more as i go along and see what others keep in the same volume. i might be aiming too high on the stocking but im just not looking into it too much for now and after i have some fish in ill decide what i can have.

i was soo close to getting discus instead of this tank so ill definately be watching out to see how your tank gets along
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Some new plants, and a new filter part for my G6, and everything is running smooth, should be able to add live stock in a weeks time, but back to the plants:

Over all shot:

Still needs work, i want some more plants, and some rocks, but it's starting to look better and better as days go.

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Well, what a day.

Went to maidenhead aquatics, got there and I'd forgotten my water container. So dropped my mum off, then went back home to get it. Came back.

Got the water. Also asked them about one of the clown loach I'd bought, which had decided to start playing dead. Which is apparently normal behaviour. Although, having watched it the whole day. It doesn't seem right, its extremely thin (almost see through), very lethargic and its not swimming around with the other two.

And got some play pit sand from the garden centre.
Went home.

Opened bag of sand. Horrible dirty brown muck, not play pit sand by any standard.

So, back to garden centre again. Returned the mucky sand.
Then into maidenhead, and had a chat to the bloke about sand. Got a 20Kg bag of sand.

So, 3 trips to the same place. Bloke at the till says, "right, see you in another 30 mins then" .


Then spent the rest of the day remodelling the tank.
Took a load of gravel out, and then put some of the new sand in. I'll admit I didn't wash it as I couldn't be bothered, .

I've now got about 1/3 of the tank with sand. And I've probably still got 15Kg of sand left,

Leaving it till tommorow to clear the water, then I'll be able to assess it properly and decide if I want more sand in and how to organise things.

Pic of the tank after sand had gone in.
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got 2 clowns and two cleaners on sunday.



cleaners have been hiding behind a rock since sunday but the should start coming out soon
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Clowns are looking awesome shig. I so wish i could change to marine.

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