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Old 6th Apr 2014, 16:57   #121
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I'm not going back retail now as I don't 'yet' have confidence in the game... or to be more specific I don't have confidence in Braben... I've NEVER had confidence in Braben.

Sure he's the big name behind created Elite, for which I still retain fond memories, but I'm not convinced he's open to new ideas coming from new people. I've always had a mild mistrust of his judgement and offering alpha access for 200 only adds to that.
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Old 6th Apr 2014, 17:08   #122
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To be honest, at this point just wait for retail launch and reviews - there's no advantage to backing the project now if you don't want to spend the 200 for alpha.
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Aye, but SC doesn't require you to spend that to get Alpha.
Yeah fair comment. I wish they'd let all backers in as the alpha footage looks incredible; still the Star Citizen DFM is coming out shortly and that should keep us occupied for a while.
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Old 6th Apr 2014, 19:06   #124
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Indeed. I'd just been hoping to get hands on Elite prior to the SC DFM, otherwise it looks like there's going to a horrific clash (if we say Elite launches some time this summer, it'll be around when SC is really getting going with multi-crew ship DFM). Ah well!
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Old 6th Apr 2014, 19:16   #125
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I'm not going back retail now as I don't 'yet' have confidence in the game... or to be more specific I don't have confidence in Braben... I've NEVER had confidence in Braben.

Sure he's the big name behind created Elite, for which I still retain fond memories, but I'm not convinced he's open to new ideas coming from new people. I've always had a mild mistrust of his judgement and offering alpha access for 200 only adds to that.
The guy has always had a very strong vision of the ELITE universe and what the game should be like. Technology is only just catching up to realising it. He's a dreamer, not a businessman. If he has other capable people taking care of that end, it should be OK.
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I never liked the old games as much as people made out they did. I played them for at least several hours or more, but the combat sucks balls and the trading and stuff is repetitive and boring. I had more fun just flying around the planets and pissing off the police. The tech of the procedural generation was the thing I liked probably the most, but turning in to a fun experience? Fell a bit short in my book.

In terms of actual 'fun', I had far more fun in the likes of Space Rangers. Far simpler tech and still requires some mindless 'trading', but the combat was cool and it was all faster paced and more interesting.

The X series, those games suck too in my not so humble opinion. They always focus on graphics but they always run like crap, and they are as dour as it gets. It's a cool genre it is just totally under-developed and untapped and most companies in the games industry behave in totally moronic ways. I might try this once it's out, same goes for Star Citizen, but I don't hold out hope for either of them to deliver anything remotely like what I would make if I was the boss :P

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Old 10th Apr 2014, 11:55   #127
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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...ntry-costs-100

100 for Beta access, starting 30th May. Reckon that puts them on target for a late summer release? (September?)
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Old 10th Apr 2014, 13:20   #128
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Old 10th Apr 2014, 14:29   #129
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Single Player download is available with that, and includes the expansion pack.
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I'm an old Elite player from way back (BBC B) but I'm afraid I'll only be paying for a finished product that works.

I will wtch with interest but 100 to be a tester isn't where I'm at.
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Old 10th Apr 2014, 17:25   #131
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They do have a "standard" beta pack at 50, but it doesn't include future DLC, which is a 35 pass all by itself.

Somewhat unimpressed by Braben's pricing here. 35 for a season pass? Really? Seems rather high, being basically the same cost as the game itself, which means the DLC is going to have to be incredibly extensive...
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I hear we are on for a late this year release. I'd say Xmas time!
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They do have a "standard" beta pack at 50, but it doesn't include future DLC, which is a 35 pass all by itself.

Somewhat unimpressed by Braben's pricing here. 35 for a season pass? Really? Seems rather high, being basically the same cost as the game itself, which means the DLC is going to have to be incredibly extensive...
How many people on this forum paid up for Premium? I certainly did for BF3 (though admittedly got it through an Indian proxy at about half price). The Borderlands season pass appeared to be very popular too.

Remember that these guys get access to market intelligence that isn't publicly disclosed. People are willing to shell out for things, particularly working folk who might only play a handful of games a year.

On the few occasions I've shelled out for DLC I've found it very worth it. At the end of the day, companies who produce DLC know that only their most ardent fans (as well as those for whom money is no concern) will buy it. Producing ****/low value-for-money DLC will stop some of those ardent fans from evangelising about your next product.
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Old 10th Apr 2014, 18:44   #134
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I have the same problem with EA's pricing for BF Premium - 40 is too much, to the extent I won't pay for it. I eventually got my hands on BF3 Premium for a tenner, well after almost all content was launched. Still haven't paid for it for BF4.

Season passes sell well, you're right, but they're also usually 15-20, which is half the cost of the game, not the full price again (see Elite, BF).

I'm not ranting about DLC in general - it's just an expansion pack, delivered online after all - but whacking an expensive season pass on before the game even launches? What the hell do I even get for 35?
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I won't go for it. Can't really do any subscription based gaming as I am likely to drop it for months at a time.
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Old 10th Apr 2014, 22:18   #136
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It isn't subscription?
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Well I've bought into the Premium Beta, I couldn't resist. It was a good time for them to add an upgrade option, just after the Star Citizen DFM was delayed; probably just a coincidence but it nudged me over.
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Well I've bought into the Premium Beta, I couldn't resist. It was a good time for them to add an upgrade option, just after the Star Citizen DFM was delayed; probably just a coincidence but it nudged me over.
And so, we wait for your mini review....
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